william-james88 wrote:Rodimus Prime wrote:You did well on Skids, though, even if he's a bit simple.
Speaking of borderline Cyberverse
yeah im gonna say no
cyberverse is worlds apart from g1 and generations
no comparison there not even close
william-james88 wrote:Rodimus Prime wrote:You did well on Skids, though, even if he's a bit simple.
Speaking of borderline Cyberverse
Rodimus Prime wrote:Oof.
In the last couple of days I made my feelings known regarding Bulkhead and Skids. Now, for the rest that I see featured in this thread. Keep in mind, this is just my opinion. If you like them, fine. It's your money. Suffice it to say I am underwhelmed. It seems that most of these figures suffer from 1 of the modes being subpar in order to accommodate the other mode.
The bot modes on Dragstrip and Optimus look good, the vehicle modes not so much. The CW version of Dragstrip is clearly superior overall. The only reason to get this one is to display the Stunticons both separately and combined. I never cared for G2 Prime, so this will be a pass.
Arcee is definitely an overall downgrade from the TFP deluxe, the only positive I can think of is that she doesn't have the original's back kibble. But they gave her a flat chest and a blank face, which is a bummer.
Kickback looks good in both modes, but I'm very happy with the Prime Wars version, so he's not needed. If you like him, great.
And Galvatron to me is just a waste of plastic and leader spot in the line. But if you like him, good for you.
I'm still looking forward to the rest of the reveals, but my expectations have been heavily grounded. Bring on the rest of the BW figures, and maybe Blaster. Otherwise, it's money saved.
Also, just a reminder, there are a lot of shipping and supply delays right now, in the US at least, due to the inefficient response of the inept current federal government to this "pandemic," so it's quite possible that what we're used to as far as the timeline of new figures hitting shelves will not be the same for this holiday season.
And finally, a response to a specific post by Cyber Bishop from page 40:
You chided some of us who complain about this new line (me being 1 of those), so here's my answer. Just because Hasbro keeps putting stuff out for the "older demographic," doesn't mean we should accept that stuff automatically out of fear that we won't see anymore. Especially when they're seriously dropping the ball design-wise. If this Legacy line fails, what makes you think they will simply regress to making simple kiddie toys, as you said? It seems Hasbro is just taking it for granted that we buy everything they give us, just for this reason. And to me it seems this is causing them to slack not only on quality but innovation as well, especially when prices are going up.
So yeah, as a member of the "older demographic," I am a bit unhappy and unsatisfied with what we've been getting. Sure, it's my choice to buy the figures or not, but no one (not Hasbro or fellow fans) can tell me that I am ungrateful for not validating their lack of progression in design and production with my wallet. And maybe a financial failure of this new line will wake them up to how stagnant they are becoming and they will actually focus on other continuities besides G1. And shoehorning characters from other continuities into G1 doesn't count. It might give a new facet to G1, but so far the 2 examples (Arcee and Bulkhead) have done major disservice to the source material.
william-james88 wrote:grimdragon2001 wrote:On Dragstrip, the G1 toy's combiner peg was on the bottom of the car or Dragsrtip's back. Given that this new toy is based on G1, its possible the combiner peg is simply on his back, out of view. It could still be the Combiner Wars peg, wont know for sure until we see how it combines.
Come on, man, there is a video out there showing all the reveals, that's what this whole discussion is about. And in it, we see the back, so it is not out of view. Before posting about what may be out of view, just check the video to be sure if that's the case or not.
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:I vaguely recall seeing an image of this Galvatron figure, but part-way through being reformatted. I assume now, if it happens, that will be a fourth redeco after this Tron Galvatron?
TulioDude wrote:I felt honored to finally be able to make Bulkhead look like he belongs in our G1 universe!
I think having an unified aesthesic for all different versions Transformers to be able to interact in single toyline is good,however,I don't think calling it "G1 Universe" is the right way to go about it.
william-james88 wrote:If ever Sabrblade decides to go on vacation, I am glad to know we can rely on you.
Okay, he was brought up in posts previous to mine so I just included him.ZeroWolf wrote:Galvatron isn't part of the Legacy line
Rodimus Prime wrote:Okay, he was brought up in posts previous to mine so I just included him.ZeroWolf wrote:Galvatron isn't part of the Legacy line
william-james88 wrote:If ever Sabrblade decides to go on vacation, I am glad to know we can rely on you.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:What exactly is the point of G1-ifying non-G1 characters to make them all look like they're from the same G1 universe... if the entire premise of this line is non-G1 characters crossing over from other universes via dimensional portals? If they're supposed to be visitors from other universes and not native to the G1 universe, why make them all look like they are?
The toys are explicitly named "Prime Universe Bulkhead" and "Prime Universe Arcee", so they're dimension-hoppers rather than G1 natives. Yet, they get redesigned to look like they from the same universe as the G1 guys that they aren't supposed to be familiar with. So what gives, Hasbro? Why do a multiverse story if you're just going to make it all look and feel like a single universe with no distinctive aesthetic qualities between worlds? Why make everything look the same when you're marketing the non-G1 guys as non-G1 guys from non-G1 universes?
And yes, they were explicit in the video that this is another multiversal crossover deal (a la Universe 2003), talking about "the multiverse", "portals", and "continuities", and even misusing some nerdy terms egregiously, like saying "all of these multiverses are coming together", when they clearly meant "universes" and not "multiverses".
Jelze Bunnycat wrote:Sabrblade wrote:What exactly is the point of G1-ifying non-G1 characters to make them all look like they're from the same G1 universe... if the entire premise of this line is non-G1 characters crossing over from other universes via dimensional portals? If they're supposed to be visitors from other universes and not native to the G1 universe, why make them all look like they are?
The toys are explicitly named "Prime Universe Bulkhead" and "Prime Universe Arcee", so they're dimension-hoppers rather than G1 natives. Yet, they get redesigned to look like they from the same universe as the G1 guys that they aren't supposed to be familiar with. So what gives, Hasbro? Why do a multiverse story if you're just going to make it all look and feel like a single universe with no distinctive aesthetic qualities between worlds? Why make everything look the same when you're marketing the non-G1 guys as non-G1 guys from non-G1 universes?
And yes, they were explicit in the video that this is another multiversal crossover deal (a la Universe 2003), talking about "the multiverse", "portals", and "continuities", and even misusing some nerdy terms egregiously, like saying "all of these multiverses are coming together", when they clearly meant "universes" and not "multiverses".
My guess is they think a line that has a unified design aesthetic will sell better, than a line that's a patchwork (in a manner of speaking) of styles.
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Also, is Bulkhead an Inferno retool? The torso looks similar??
I can see why. Integrated leg wheels de-integrated and now hang off the sides of her legs, genericized face, head details look like they're no longer a part of her face and instead a part of her helmet (like she's just cosplaying by wearing a Prime Arcee helmet), her once slim and round lower legs and lower arms are now bulky and squared off, her once lean ninja-like physique is now buff and rugged, and while her torso is less sexualized and bikini-like, it's also pretty ordinary-looking.-Kanrabat- wrote:But that "Arcee". I take personal offense with that thing.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
I think we're just supposed to pretend that her wheels become a couple of disc saws that she just swings around at people.Razorbeast88 wrote:What exactly is Arcee's non-energon weapon supposed to be? It just looks weird
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:I think we're just supposed to pretend that her wheels become a couple of disc saws that she just swings around at people.Razorbeast88 wrote:What exactly is Arcee's non-energon weapon supposed to be? It just looks weird
Sabrblade wrote:I think we're just supposed to pretend that her wheels become a couple of disc saws that she just swings around at people.Razorbeast88 wrote:What exactly is Arcee's non-energon weapon supposed to be? It just looks weird
Sabrblade wrote: her once slim and round lower legs and lower arms are now bulky and squared off, her once lean ninja-like physique is now buff and rugged, and while her torso is less sexualized and bikini-like, it's also pretty ordinary-looking.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
-Kanrabat- wrote:AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Also, is Bulkhead an Inferno retool? The torso looks similar??
I don't think so. But one thing is sure. That Bulkhead is a pretool for lots of other characters. I'm sure of it. And for some weird reason the more I see him, the more I like him.
-Kanrabat- wrote:TF-fan kev777 wrote:First-Aid wrote:Okay, did anyone else notice that we all get a wonderful shot of Starscreams crotch anytime he sits in that throne? That's unnerving. Couldn't they have put n extra flap in there? It's....weird.
Its kind of like Basic Instinct, but not in a good way...
Goddammit, now I can't unsee it.
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