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By all appearances, the change seemed to have been made far enough ahead of the production on all the post-FFOD episodes, so we may never know if Shockwave would have appeared again without asking Dille directly (and that's if he remembers anything about it beyond what's already written in these papers).Autobot N wrote:Wow that's pretty cool. Shockwave is my favorite Decepticon so it would have been cool to see him in that role. Would he have appeared as an Autobot in future episodes or would he have disappeared afterwards like Blitzwing did?
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Has there ever been a figure that used fake jet wings for robot mode?
1. Thing is, any aim at resembling the G1 toy's version of the cockpit being there is undercut by the use of red glazing, as well as by the cockpit hanging there naked without any hull surrounding it - something peculiar to the animation model (as is the protrusion, to a degree). In execution, it's this confused messy thing that doesn't know whether it wants to be the toy or the cartoon version.Wolfman Jake wrote:Also, I want to point out that while the War for Cybertron Trilogy and Studio Series '86 figures have definitely been the most screen accurate toys we've gotten of the G1 cartoon models (outside of the Masterpiece series), they're not strictly beholden to the details of the Sunbow character models. They sometimes opt for toy accurate details instead. Legacy Blitzwing has several paint operations that are lifted from the original toy and missing on the cartoon character model. Consider that, to Hasbro and Takara, the plane cockpit in tank mode is just as "iconic" to that mode's look as the faux wings on the robot mold's shoulders, because those details are in all of that character's G1 media and merchandise appearances.
Wolfman Jake wrote:I'm surprised at the backlash on this reveal of Legacy Blitzwing. It's not Hasbro or Takara's fault that everyone apparently had a "Mandela Effect" moment concerning the plane cockpit always being there in the front of the tank mode on the original toy and in the cartoon itself. (The thrusters were always there on the back of the tank too, at least on the G1 toy.) We all knew what to expect after the past 3+ years of G1 animation accuracy in our Generations figures.
Gauntlet101010 wrote:
If it's iconic to the Hasbro designers then their priorities may be misplaced.![]()
sol magnus wrote:
In any case, my Skids pre-ordered from Amazon.com is due to arrive on April 2.
Gauntlet101010 wrote:I don't think mine are. Sure it's subjective, but nobody talking about it seems to be thrilled it's there. At best I'm seeing people as being tolerant.
If it were an iconic part of his alt mode, I think people would be as happy about seeing it there as they were with Netflix Bee's alt. mode. Unless you're seeing posts I haven't about how much it adds to the look.
Wolfman Jake wrote:Gauntlet101010 wrote:I don't think mine are. Sure it's subjective, but nobody talking about it seems to be thrilled it's there. At best I'm seeing people as being tolerant.
If it were an iconic part of his alt mode, I think people would be as happy about seeing it there as they were with Netflix Bee's alt. mode. Unless you're seeing posts I haven't about how much it adds to the look.
Here's the thing, though. You don't have to believe that cockpit on the tank mode is iconic. That's because, you didn't make this. A team of engineers and artists at Hasbro and Takara did. You're just a consumer. There is always going to be a disconnect between the artist and the consumer of the art.
Wolfman Jake wrote:Gauntlet101010 wrote:I don't think mine are. Sure it's subjective, but nobody talking about it seems to be thrilled it's there. At best I'm seeing people as being tolerant.
If it were an iconic part of his alt mode, I think people would be as happy about seeing it there as they were with Netflix Bee's alt. mode. Unless you're seeing posts I haven't about how much it adds to the look.
Here's the thing, though. You don't have to believe that cockpit on the tank mode is iconic. That's because, you didn't make this. A team of engineers and artists at Hasbro and Takara did. You're just a consumer. There is always going to be a disconnect between the artist and the consumer of the art.
Gauntlet101010 wrote:Wolfman Jake wrote:Gauntlet101010 wrote:I don't think mine are. Sure it's subjective, but nobody talking about it seems to be thrilled it's there. At best I'm seeing people as being tolerant.
If it were an iconic part of his alt mode, I think people would be as happy about seeing it there as they were with Netflix Bee's alt. mode. Unless you're seeing posts I haven't about how much it adds to the look.
Here's the thing, though. You don't have to believe that cockpit on the tank mode is iconic. That's because, you didn't make this. A team of engineers and artists at Hasbro and Takara did. You're just a consumer. There is always going to be a disconnect between the artist and the consumer of the art.
At the end of the day it doesn't matter what the artist thinks. When they put a thing out there, it's out there to be digested or analyzed as anyone sees fit. In large part the artist's intent no longer matters.
If this were an iconic part of the design I don't think we'd see any debate in regards to it's inclusion; it would be taken for granted.
Wolfman Jake wrote:Yes, you can critique anything you want. You can like or dislike whatever piece of art you consume, but that doesn’t invalidate artistic intent. The artist made what they did according to their vision. It’s not their job, or even within their ability, to create something that pleases everyone or evokes the same emotions and ideas in every consumer. The inclusion of the cockpit in Blitzwing’s tank mode is iconic to the artists who designed it, whether or not that meets your (or anyone else’s) expectations of “iconic.”
The prevailing theory on TFW was that he was a pretool for an Optimus Prime that was going to be released as a tie-in with the likely-cancelled Rise game, like how the Legacy Armada Starscream is apparently also a retool of the Starscream from that same lineD-Maximal_Primal wrote:I'm still confused as to why Bulkhead appears to be the one figure that really did not follow his universe of origin design. Everyone else is different stylistically but sort of close (Arcee), pretty dang close (G2 Prime), or utterly slavish (Blitzwing as we've seen), but Bulkhead isn't any of those. That's always been my hangup with him: Prime Universe, but the only thing alike is the head and mace.
I have checked my stores yesterday, still no sign of Legacy, though at this point I'm mainly only looking for Iguanus.
Gauntlet101010 wrote:It's fine if the artist thinks it's iconic, but that doesn't make it iconic. Anyone can have an opinion on what's iconic, but that doesn't mean that thing actually is iconic. I question your labelling.
Plus, do you have an interview where the designer actually think it's an iconic part of Blitz's design? It seems like an assumption you're making based on it's presence on this toy. That alone doesn't mean anything except that the team thought it should be included. As for their artistic intent, it doesn't matter. I get what their going for. What matters are results.
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