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primalxconvoy wrote:Sowndwave76 wrote:Just curious...
Relative to the criticisms of this new Blitzwing, did Siege Astrotrain get hate?
I've wanted a new Astrotrain in my collection ever since the Henkei version.
The Siege greebling of his bot mode kept me from looking at him very closely.
But a few days ago I started looking with more intent to buy, and wow, both of his alt modes are pretty horrendous.
Half of the shuttle is... Severely incomplete, to put it lightly.
And that train mode... Pshhhhh... That's one of the worst alt modes I can remember, especially for being a fairly recent figure.
And again, the greebling of the bot mode... That ruins what would've been the one decent mode.
I'd only pay for that thing if I could get it for under $30.
Imo this new Blitzwing makes Astrotrain look like ASStrotrain.
Although I didn't fully like the Takara Tomy Titanmaster version, I bought it, just as I bought the other equivalent G1 triple changers in that line. However, I've refrained from buying any recent iterations of those characters, due to the design flaws mentioned by myself and others, in the posts above. I would rather make-do with a "good enough" version, rather than expend more money to get another figure that is, IMO, simply more of the same.
Astrotrain's added "fluff" pieces and lack of finished shuttle mice have been, from my observations, well-documented. I think it was puzzling for me why Hasbro didn't use part of the "fluff" as parts to "fix" the "naked" rear of the shuttle.
I think another factor here is that it seems that as many characters seem to get continuously updated iterations (Hotrod/Rodimus Prime, Ultra Magnus', Grimlock, Arcee, etc spring to mind), I feel it will be only a few more years for an updated/improved version of (Astrotrain/Blitzwing), so why waste money getting something that's lacking?
Sowndwave76 wrote:primalxconvoy wrote:Sowndwave76 wrote:Just curious...
Relative to the criticisms of this new Blitzwing, did Siege Astrotrain get hate?
I've wanted a new Astrotrain in my collection ever since the Henkei version.
The Siege greebling of his bot mode kept me from looking at him very closely.
But a few days ago I started looking with more intent to buy, and wow, both of his alt modes are pretty horrendous.
Half of the shuttle is... Severely incomplete, to put it lightly.
And that train mode... Pshhhhh... That's one of the worst alt modes I can remember, especially for being a fairly recent figure.
And again, the greebling of the bot mode... That ruins what would've been the one decent mode.
I'd only pay for that thing if I could get it for under $30.
Imo this new Blitzwing makes Astrotrain look like ASStrotrain.
Although I didn't fully like the Takara Tomy Titanmaster version, I bought it, just as I bought the other equivalent G1 triple changers in that line. However, I've refrained from buying any recent iterations of those characters, due to the design flaws mentioned by myself and others, in the posts above. I would rather make-do with a "good enough" version, rather than expend more money to get another figure that is, IMO, simply more of the same.
Astrotrain's added "fluff" pieces and lack of finished shuttle mice have been, from my observations, well-documented. I think it was puzzling for me why Hasbro didn't use part of the "fluff" as parts to "fix" the "naked" rear of the shuttle.
I think another factor here is that it seems that as many characters seem to get continuously updated iterations (Hotrod/Rodimus Prime, Ultra Magnus', Grimlock, Arcee, etc spring to mind), I feel it will be only a few more years for an updated/improved version of (Astrotrain/Blitzwing), so why waste money getting something that's lacking?
That all makes sense...
I would've thought Siege Astrotrain would've been destroyed by collectors...
It's just horrible design all the way around!
Well, IF a new version is released in 3 years and doesn't suffer by some lame play gimmick, I may bite.
Not real likely, but who knows... I'll already be waiting for over a year to get more Dinobots and Insecticons.
I may keep an ear to the ground for a year or so past that.
Wait, did Siege Astrotrain get released in 2019?
primalxconvoy wrote:
I believe Siege Astrotrain was released at the tail-end of Siege and again, unchanged, for Earthrise (?) I also believe its design was indeed roasted by some and mentioned by others. At the least, most people regarded it as an area of concern.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:I'm probably one of the few people on the planet who feels completely fine with Siege/Earthrise Astrotrain as he is.
So much so, I bought three of him!
Sabrblade wrote:I'm probably one of the few people on the planet who feels completely fine with Siege/Earthrise Astrotrain as he is.
So much so, I bought three of him!
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:@WolfmanJake, I'll grant you that it's possible having the jet cockpit visible there in tank mode is iconic to one of the designers. However:
1. That still doesn't mean the cartoon's funky "naked" depiction of it there (how/why did that even happen, anyway? Did Floron the Moron forget the lines for the surrounding tank hull? Was he trying to be crude? It's particularly odd given that it makes the area more complex to draw) is necessarily a good look
2. Saying that comes across, at least to me, as you grasping at straws to make the choice acceptable.
3. If it was iconic to them, I would think they'd have gone for a less-confused execution. It has a faux-canopy instead of the abstracted stripes to match the toy having the canopy up top, but it's naked like the cartoon version, and both the canopy and faux-canopy are cast in red so they don't match either.
-Kanrabat- wrote:My reaction to this thread since so many pages:
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:I'm probably one of the few people on the planet who feels completely fine with Siege/Earthrise Astrotrain as he is.
So much so, I bought three of him!
That would be much appreciated, but considering how this Blitzwing turned out, I wouldn't be surprised if it was a step down from the Siege figure, as difficult as that would be.Nemesis Destron wrote:But now that we're in the wake of a new Blitzwing perhaps for all we know the Powers/
that be will unveil another Astrotrain through the Series 86 line...I'm just sayin'.
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DISCHARGE wrote:
Dude
The two of these are so far off this toy looks like butt in dat tank mode next to that animation
Emerje wrote:DISCHARGE wrote:
Dude
The two of these are so far off this toy looks like butt in dat tank mode next to that animation
Dude, you seriously did a screen cap of my post instead of a quote? That's just weird. And I'm strictly talking about the cockpit (I mentioned the other stuff they got wrong later in the post), the blue parts from the screen cap match the placement of the red parts on the toy. The intent is obvious even if it's a misinterpretation of what's being represented.
Anyway, is this the first sighting worldwide of Galvatron? Thought we'd see comparison shots between this and the Kingdom version by now but it seems like we'll need to wait a little longer if this is the first sighting.
Emerje
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