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News Credits: 462 · Tue Jul 05, 2022 10:57 am

ZeroWolf wrote:The only other way to have made his robot mode chest be toon accurate would have been to use faux parts, I think the approach they used is much better.

Or just let the eyes be bigger, realism be darned.

Inferno and Waspinator both have eye boobs. Waspy got his, but Inferno got gypped. Gimme eye boobs, darn it.

News Credits: 6 · Tue Jul 05, 2022 10:59 am

Sabrblade wrote:Inferno and Waspinator both have eye boobs. Waspy got his, but Inferno got jipped. Gimme eye boobs, darn it.

News Credits: 1350 · Tue Jul 05, 2022 10:59 am

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:The only other way to have made his robot mode chest be toon accurate would have been to use faux parts, I think the approach they used is much better.

I think it could also lead to a better looking Antagony figure too.

Indeed, the colours should look really nice on that mold.

Though how many years till we get transmetal redos (or even netter, reissues)

Tue Jul 05, 2022 11:06 am

Loving both.
Recently got vintage Inferno. Can’t wait to put them together.
Love Armada Starscream having a mini starsaber.

News Credits: 22 · Tue Jul 05, 2022 11:15 am

Inferno is an instabuy, even if the robot mode kibble seems off. Is he mistransformed?

Starscream, I'm split on. I love the Armada figure, but the fact his back can't fold down always bothered me. If this fixes that (which it seems to) then I'll get this as well.

Tue Jul 05, 2022 11:20 am

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Still doesn't make it look "good".

That's subjective. Less stylised and more "realistic" is what they are going for nowadays though.

Regardless, it was never going to work out very well trying to make a robot from a animal or insect, insects more so because of hoe some of them are. On screen in TV magic land you can do almost anything but when it comes to making a toy of it becomes a lot more complicated. This is why I was never a fan of the BW toys in general.

News Credits: 6 · Tue Jul 05, 2022 11:28 am

Till-all-R1 wrote: On screen in TV magic land you can do almost anything but when it comes to making a toy of it becomes a lot more complicated. This is why I was never a fan of the BW toys in general.

The issue is a lot of this is based on Season One/initial wave designs and figures.
The more creative and intricate designs didn't make it into the show. By the same token, they got better at it with subsequent waves. Much like comparing the 84 G1 figures to say, the post-Movie characters. Development and crafting skills improved over time.

IMO, the BW Scorponok toy was a far better design than the show model, and he looked good in both modes.

News Credits: 149 · Tue Jul 05, 2022 11:29 am

For the ROYALTY!

He's a must have.

~ Grim

News Credits: 1350 · Tue Jul 05, 2022 11:29 am

Till-all-R1 wrote:
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Still doesn't make it look "good".

That's subjective. Less stylised and more "realistic" is what they are going for nowadays though.

Regardless, it was never going to work out very well trying to make a robot from a animal or insect, insects more so because of hoe some of them are. On screen in TV magic land you can do almost anything but when it comes to making a toy of it becomes a lot more complicated. This is why I was never a fan of the BW toys in general.

I think they've done a good job here and with many other beast formers, never doubt what the designers can do when push comes to shove.

News Credits: 6 · Tue Jul 05, 2022 11:31 am

That's why I was really interested in seeing Kingdom Polar Claw. To see what could be done with Bear Bots with modern techniques. Alas, it was not to be...

News Credits: 19 · Tue Jul 05, 2022 12:05 pm

-Kanrabat- wrote:
blackeyedprime wrote:Indemand has photos up of deluxe inferno and armada starscream (deluxe??) which I'm just going to take as my two lots of bad news to complete it coming in threes today. I'll look to see if the figures are any good later but size classes suck for both.

Why did you thought those were deluxes? Description error?

It's written "voyager" on the boxes in 5 languages.

Anyway, those, I look forward to.

Description error on the posting. Tho tbf the posting could have said made of marshmallows after I found out a relative is ill.

Tue Jul 05, 2022 12:06 pm

Immortal Starscream wrote:just realized screamer doesn't have any minicon ports. How does PRIME Bulkhead have minicon ports, but ARMADA Starscream not?

Because they aren't mini con ports. They're just pegs with holes that aren't compatible. I tried.

News Credits: 18 · Tue Jul 05, 2022 12:08 pm

I do agree with what people are saying about Inferno's blender butt engine gun and his chest. I think the chest could have been done better. al they would have had to do was to make the sides with the eyes be separate panels with either a double hinge or a slider to move them to overlap the center of the head. not only would it look better, it would also make it a bit more show accurate. something like the rough sketch I attached here.

News Credits: 10 · Tue Jul 05, 2022 12:11 pm

Is there any chance Inferno's chest is just mis-transformed? He's got a split down the middle of his chest.

News Credits: 6 · Tue Jul 05, 2022 12:11 pm

They're not going for show accurate Beast Modes. As far as modern Beast Wars figures go, that's what the Masterpiece line is for.

News Credits: 19 · Tue Jul 05, 2022 12:11 pm

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Still doesn't make it look "good".

That's subjective. Less stylised and more "realistic" is what they are going for nowadays though.

When it is prehistoric fictional bugs tho they shouldn't really be modernised bugs. The new live action film will likely butcher them enough that way as is.

News Credits: 1350 · Tue Jul 05, 2022 12:12 pm

That might have meant more money from the budget, making something else worse

News Credits: 6 · Tue Jul 05, 2022 12:13 pm

blackeyedprime wrote:
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Still doesn't make it look "good".

That's subjective. Less stylised and more "realistic" is what they are going for nowadays though.

When it is prehistoric fictional bugs tho they shouldn't really be modernised bugs. The new live action film will likely butcher them enough that way as is.

Some Beast Modes didn't even exist during the Prehistoric era. Authenticity to the period was never a serious consideration.

News Credits: 19 · Tue Jul 05, 2022 12:17 pm

Good to see indemand got the size class wrong

think I'd have preferred a non transforming swindle over the starsqbre if hasbro has to be that tight. Looks good enough tho so he is a potential buy along with his likely repaints/retool.

Sadly inferno looks off like the other beast wars stuff. I'll likely get him for the royalty but if I still had the original I'd be passing. Unlike tigertron he doesn't have a better mp option or even a Red substitute yet.

News Credits: 1 · Tue Jul 05, 2022 12:18 pm

sol magnus wrote:Is there any chance Inferno's chest is just mis-transformed? He's got a split down the middle of his chest.

It looks to me like that hinge allows the ant head to split open so you can pull his robot head out and store the ant mandibles, then closes back up. Nothing more.

News Credits: 19 · Tue Jul 05, 2022 12:18 pm

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:
blackeyedprime wrote:
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Still doesn't make it look "good".

That's subjective. Less stylised and more "realistic" is what they are going for nowadays though.

When it is prehistoric fictional bugs tho they shouldn't really be modernised bugs. The new live action film will likely butcher them enough that way as is.

Some Beast Modes didn't even exist during the Prehistoric era. Authenticity to the period was never a serious consideration.

Very true.

News Credits: 6 · Tue Jul 05, 2022 12:20 pm

blackeyedprime wrote:Sadly inferno looks off like the other beast wars stuff. I'll likely get him for the royalty but if I still had the original I'd be passing. Unlike Tigatron he doesn't have a better mp option or even a Red substitute yet.

I'm still curious how far down the MP line the legendary Shelfwarmer will be?

News Credits: 19 · Tue Jul 05, 2022 12:24 pm

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:
blackeyedprime wrote:Sadly inferno looks off like the other beast wars stuff. I'll likely get him for the royalty but if I still had the original I'd be passing. Unlike Tigatron he doesn't have a better mp option or even a Red substitute yet.

I'm still curious how far down the MP line the legendary Shelfwarmer will be?

Well if mp rattrap was teased 18 mps ago... Hahahaha

News Credits: 18 · Tue Jul 05, 2022 12:26 pm

Short Circuit wrote:
Immortal Starscream wrote:just realized screamer doesn't have any minicon ports. How does PRIME Bulkhead have minicon ports, but ARMADA Starscream not?

Because they aren't mini con ports. They're just pegs with holes that aren't compatible. I tried.

I did too when I got my Bulkhead. But with the square base around the peg that has the divots in the corners, added to the hole in the middle, it still LOOKS like a minicon port.

News Credits: 6 · Tue Jul 05, 2022 12:30 pm

blackeyedprime wrote:Well if mp rattrap was teased 18 mps ago... Hahahaha

Indeed. Meanwhile, MP Tigatron was out nearly two years ago now. There's only fourteen characters in Season One. Takara are so close to actually finishing one MP line. If they decided to pull their finger out >:oP