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So could that mean we get an Armada Jetfire in 2024 or '25? As either a leader or a commander? Leader if the combo gimmick with Prime is included, commander if it's just Jetfire. I mean, we got Sky Lynx last year as a commander. Jetfire would be similar, he just wouldn't split up.Rtron wrote:I suspect next year's Commander Class is going to be Armanda Optimus Prime, given Armada Megatron's presence in the line, and that Tidal Wave will either be a Titan, or have to wait a year.
Rodimus Prime wrote:So could that mean we get an Armada Jetfire in 2024 or '25? As either a leader or a commander? Leader if the combo gimmick with Prime is included, commander if it's just Jetfire. I mean, we got Sky Lynx last year as a commander. Jetfire would be similar, he just wouldn't split up.Rtron wrote:I suspect next year's Commander Class is going to be Armanda Optimus Prime, given Armada Megatron's presence in the line, and that Tidal Wave will either be a Titan, or have to wait a year.
william-james88 wrote:If ever Sabrblade decides to go on vacation, I am glad to know we can rely on you.
Nemesis Primal wrote:So I've been doing a bit of reading, and between what little Q & A escaped the panel, a video interview done by Shartimus Prime, and the big interview TFW just posted, I have compiled the following list of Legacy-relevant confirmations/hints given at SDCC outside of just the figures we actually saw. Notes so far (*inhales*):
-Legacy Wave 4/Breakdown will be shown at Pulsecon
-Legacy Wave 4/Breakdown are scheduled to come out next year
-Evan mentioned that Menasor's lack of Scramble City compatibility/limbs being dedicated to just Menasor has been well-received and they are keeping that in mind for future potential combiners
-No continuity is off the table for Legacy, Cyberverse is an option
-Animated was given a flat-out confirmation by Evan, Animated characters/designs WILL be in Legacy, the theory of those characters/designs being held up by Cartoon Network rights is incorrect
-Evan cited Animated Lockdown, Ratchet, and Prime as characters/designs he specifically would like to work on
-Legacy Animated figures WILL be G1-ified, HOWEVER the team has also heard the feedback on Arcee/Bulkhead/Knock Out and are working to find a better G1-ification balance
-Titans and Selects are both still planned to continue release, called out the theory of Selects ending specifically as incorrect
-Hasbro is considering 2022 and 2023 both to be the Armada anniversary due to the show's release date in Japan (which probably also explains "RiD 2000 Universe")
-Armada Prime "may happen" for the anniversary, unlikely to be the unreleased Takara-initiated one shown years back but may borrow from it if happening
-Cyber Planet Keys and Cheetor's gut gun both being thought about in terms of potential weapon/accessory packs
-They KNOW people want Tidal Wave
-Minicons are something they're intending to figure out "once they move more fully into Armada"
-Wider release/more allotments of Velocitron Cosmos and his in-store availability are up to Walmart, Pulse cannot restock (sounds familiar)
-Next Haslab is being worked on but has no associated dates yet
-No version of Optimus Prime will EVER be a Haslab (when asked about Armada Prime)
-When asked about a new Cybertron OP & Wing Saber: "it would be totally doable to make a new Wing Saber connect to Siege GUOP" (implying Wing Saber is on the table but Optimus is considered done)
-More Titans from Cybertron are possible albeit daunting due to number (Starscream, Primus, Quickmix, & Menasor all mentioned)
-Evan wants to incorporate Powerlinx into Armada/Energon updates
-Mark and Evan talk about making figures of the 13 Primes "all the time", mentioned The Fallen's tank mode
-As far as Evan knows, Legacy is planned to go for 3 years and is a trilogy (?)
-More non-G1 updates can be expected even if/when Legacy ends
-Evan wants to make Beast Machines Vehicons
-Most obscure characters Evan wants to do in Legacy: Velocity, Javelin, Mistress of Flame, Camiens
-Interest in bringing Fan Votes back
-Expansion into non-G1 was due to designer interest, characters needing updates, and people being sick of the same characters
-Positive reaction to being asked about Omnibots, vague "anything is possible" response given
-More Minibots "will make it in eventually"
-Mention of potential Coneheads rerelease in Legacy
-Evan mentioned "having a few more beasts to get through"
...and on top of all that semi-official stuff, JTPrime has said as of yesterday that Breakdown and Twincast's EAN numbers have been replaced with new ones that change what we thought the next few waves would be, indicating that Wave 4 will now include Needlenose, "Junkion 1", Hot Shot, Tarn, & Leo Prime (at least, don't think we know Leaders-per-specific-wave yet for 2023) in addition to Breakdown, while Twincast has been pushed back to the wave containing Metalhawk and the Wheeljack & Cheetor repacks have been possibly scrapped.
If you actually read to the end, I appreciate you
Nemesis Primal wrote:-Evan mentioned that Menasor's lack of Scramble City compatibility/limbs being dedicated to just Menasor has been well-received and they are keeping that in mind for future potential combiners
Nemesis Primal wrote:-Most obscure characters Evan wants to do in Legacy: Velocity, Javelin, Mistress of Flame, Camiens
...
-Expansion into non-G1 was due to designer interest, characters needing updates, and people being sick of the same characters
Burn wrote:I can think of more obscure characters, like the majority of G1.5...
Nemesis Primal wrote:So I've been doing a bit of reading, and between what little Q & A escaped the panel, a video interview done by Shartimus Prime, and the big interview TFW just posted, I have compiled the following list of Legacy-relevant confirmations/hints given at SDCC outside of just the figures we actually saw. Notes so far (*inhales*):
-Legacy Wave 4/Breakdown will be shown at Pulsecon
-Legacy Wave 4/Breakdown are scheduled to come out next year
-Evan mentioned that Menasor's lack of Scramble City compatibility/limbs being dedicated to just Menasor has been well-received and they are keeping that in mind for future potential combiners
-No continuity is off the table for Legacy, Cyberverse is an option
-Animated was given a flat-out confirmation by Evan, Animated characters/designs WILL be in Legacy, the theory of those characters/designs being held up by Cartoon Network rights is incorrect
-Evan cited Animated Lockdown, Ratchet, and Prime as characters/designs he specifically would like to work on
-Legacy Animated figures WILL be G1-ified, HOWEVER the team has also heard the feedback on Arcee/Bulkhead/Knock Out and are working to find a better G1-ification balance
-Titans and Selects are both still planned to continue release, called out the theory of Selects ending specifically as incorrect
-Hasbro is considering 2022 and 2023 both to be the Armada anniversary due to the show's release date in Japan (which probably also explains "RiD 2000 Universe")
-Armada Prime "may happen" for the anniversary, unlikely to be the unreleased Takara-initiated one shown years back but may borrow from it if happening
-Cyber Planet Keys and Cheetor's gut gun both being thought about in terms of potential weapon/accessory packs
-They KNOW people want Tidal Wave
-Minicons are something they're intending to figure out "once they move more fully into Armada"
-Wider release/more allotments of Velocitron Cosmos and his in-store availability are up to Walmart, Pulse cannot restock (sounds familiar)
-Next Haslab is being worked on but has no associated dates yet
-No version of Optimus Prime will EVER be a Haslab (when asked about Armada Prime)
-When asked about a new Cybertron OP & Wing Saber: "it would be totally doable to make a new Wing Saber connect to Siege GUOP" (implying Wing Saber is on the table but Optimus is considered done)
-More Titans from Cybertron are possible albeit daunting due to number (Starscream, Primus, Quickmix, & Menasor all mentioned)
-Evan wants to incorporate Powerlinx into Armada/Energon updates
-Mark and Evan talk about making figures of the 13 Primes "all the time", mentioned The Fallen's tank mode
-As far as Evan knows, Legacy is planned to go for 3 years and is a trilogy (?)
-More non-G1 updates can be expected even if/when Legacy ends
-Evan wants to make Beast Machines Vehicons
-Most obscure characters Evan wants to do in Legacy: Velocity, Javelin, Mistress of Flame, Camiens
-Interest in bringing Fan Votes back
-Expansion into non-G1 was due to designer interest, characters needing updates, and people being sick of the same characters
-Positive reaction to being asked about Omnibots, vague "anything is possible" response given
-More Minibots "will make it in eventually"
-Mention of potential Coneheads rerelease in Legacy
-Evan mentioned "having a few more beasts to get through"
...and on top of all that semi-official stuff, JTPrime has said as of yesterday that Breakdown and Twincast's EAN numbers have been replaced with new ones that change what we thought the next few waves would be, indicating that Wave 4 will now include Needlenose, "Junkion 1", Hot Shot, Tarn, & Leo Prime (at least, don't think we know Leaders-per-specific-wave yet for 2023) in addition to Breakdown, while Twincast has been pushed back to the wave containing Metalhawk and the Wheeljack & Cheetor repacks have been possibly scrapped.
If you actually read to the end, I appreciate you
-Evan mentioned that Menasor's lack of Scramble City compatibility/limbs being dedicated to just Menasor has been well-received and they are keeping that in mind for future potential combiners
Rodimus Prime wrote:We might get a Wing Saber to go with Galaxy Prime? Wasn't Wing Saber in Energon/Super-Link?
ZeroWolf wrote:I think there's a lot to be excited about here, and ironically, Animated has already seen some of it's designs translated to other styles.
The difference in the cases like Reveal the Shield Lugnut, ROTF Lockdown, and Cyberverse Clobber is that those were alternate-continuity G1/Movie/Aligned/Cyberverse/etc.-native versions of their Animated counterparts (like how Armada Optimus Prime is to G1 Optimus Prime is to Movie Optimus Prime, etc.), rather than specifically the actual Animated universe characters in G1/Movie/Aligned/Cyberverse/etc.-styled bodies (save for Legends Slipstream, whom Takara retooled enough in an active attempt to make her mold look more like an Animated mold).william-james88 wrote:Most excited about how they are working on a better balance for G1ification. It has been done right in the past, like with Animated Lugnut and Evergreen Barricade (regarding the design).
Since Takara made the previous prototype version on their own without Hasbro's input, it might not fit into Hasbro's more rigid budget restrictions, requiring Hasbro to design a new one from the ground up that does fit into their budget.Rodimus Prime wrote:Why wouldn't they use Takara's previously designed Armada Prime? It's like the heavy lifting was already done for them. Will they design a simpler (and thus cheaper) version?
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
I think they should use the design, and fit their budget around it. If they had plans to make a leader figure but it turns out to be too expensive, bump it up to commander. Based on the prototype we got, it looks like it's worth the money. Unless Hasbro completely butchers the trailer, or gives us something cheap and hollow like ER leader Prime just to fit the budget.Sabrblade wrote:Takara Armada Prime budget.
There's also the possibility that the Takara Armada Prime didn't pass Hasbro's toy safety drop test (the same drop test that prevented the G1 Fort Max mold from being rereleased in the West as RiD 2001 Fort Max).Rodimus Prime wrote:I think they should use the design, and fit their budget around it. If they had plans to make a leader figure but it turns out to be too expensive, bump it up to commander. Based on the prototype we got, it looks like it's worth the money. Unless Hasbro completely butchers the trailer, or gives us something cheap and hollow like ER leader Prime just to fit the budget.Sabrblade wrote:Takara Armada Prime budget.
They did really well with Legacy Motormaster in giving us our money's worth. I would have taken ER Prime at commander class if we got that voyager Prime and a better trailer. They fid it with Rodimus. (For me, that trailer for perfectly with my deluxe TFP Prime figure. It looks cheap enough to go with a deluxe.)
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Nemesis Primal wrote:If you actually read to the end, I appreciate you
Nuclearxpotato wrote:-Evan mentioned that Menasor's lack of Scramble City compatibility/limbs being dedicated to just Menasor has been well-received and they are keeping that in mind for future potential combiners
-Kanrabat- wrote:Nuclearxpotato wrote:-Evan mentioned that Menasor's lack of Scramble City compatibility/limbs being dedicated to just Menasor has been well-received and they are keeping that in mind for future potential combiners
I don't see why the Scramble City gimmick can't be used on the new combiner design. The deluxe "limbs" simply ride the torso's skeleton so like the original concept, the deluxes could ride any skeleton on any limbs.
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