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william-james88 wrote:Which version of Prime Knockout is more show accurate to uou guys, the original ine or the Legacy one?

Im gonna go with the original there

Razorbeast88 wrote:I know it's not what you meant but a commander or leader energon Scorponok would be pretty cool at some point

Definitely. Another figure that could use the update. Its last use was the 2014 BotCon Scorponok if I remember correctly.

Rodimus Prime wrote:

Razorbeast88 wrote:I know it's not what you meant but a commander or leader energon Scorponok would be pretty cool at some point

Definitely. Another figure that could use the update. Its last use was the 2014 BotCon Scorponok if I remember correctly.

IMO, in the meantime that a Commander Marvel Comics Scorponok is made (if ever), the G1 original does the job perfectly.

william-james88 wrote:Which version of Prime Knockout is more show accurate to uou guys, the original ine or the Legacy one?

Original. It was only a little inaccurate, while the new one doesn't even try for accuracy at all in its robot mode.

Sabrblade wrote:

william-james88 wrote:Which version of Prime Knockout is more show accurate to uou guys, the original ine or the Legacy one?

Original. It was only a little inaccurate, while the new one doesn't even try for accuracy at all in its robot mode.

The coloration of the original Hasbro figure is way off, but the Jazz mold transformation is way too simple to represent his bot mode. The original has the right shoulders, and that sells it for me.

That said, the Prime character designs are so stylized that I picked him and Arcee up in R.E.D. I'm G1 first, but G1 R.E.D. didn't do anything for me since their blockiness comes through in Generations. The Prime toys offer something that you can't get in a transforming toy.

Sabrblade wrote:

william-james88 wrote:Which version of Prime Knockout is more show accurate to uou guys, the original ine or the Legacy one?

Original. It was only a little inaccurate, while the new one doesn't even try for accuracy at all in its robot mode.

Really?

I mean, its not as stylized and curvy, but they arms transform the same way, the wheels end up in the same places as the prime design, and the feet and lower leg kibble are all similar, I think it keeps the spirit of the original very well.

Is it the loving update the likes of which armada starscream is getting? no, am I upset? mildly do I care? no, the figure looks sick.

Legit best voyager in the main generations line since T30 Springer

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

william-james88 wrote:Which version of Prime Knockout is more show accurate to uou guys, the original ine or the Legacy one?

Original. It was only a little inaccurate, while the new one doesn't even try for accuracy at all in its robot mode.

Really?

I mean, its not as stylized and curvy, but they arms transform the same way, the wheels end up in the same places as the prime design, and the feet and lower leg kibble are all similar, I think it keeps the spirit of the original very well.

Is it the loving update the likes of which armada starscream is getting? no, am I upset? mildly do I care? no, the figure looks sick.

Will was asking about show-accuracy, not which is the better toy.

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Legit best voyager in the main generations line since T30 Springer

You're making a convincing argument, but I have no love for his design - specifically his face. It just does nothing for me, and I'm afraid I might be missing out if he doesn't get retooled

Roadbuster wrote:

Overcracker wrote:

Roadbuster wrote:I think the only thing keeping Tidal wave out is that there is currently no Armada Megatron. The Megatron/Galvatron of this year has already been used up. If they are going to do Tidalwave, then one would think Hasbro would want to incorporate the combination gimmick they had in Armada. So, once they do Armada Megatron, expect that Tidal Wave will not be far off.

Also, I think when Tidalwave is done, he'll likely be a Commander class. If Hasbro decides not to redo another combiner next year, chances of him seeing release should be good.

Armada Megs is apparently set for 2023.
https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... ine/47005/

Well then... I think the odds are favorable.

Lest we forget.....




Did no Armada fans quench your thirst for this ol' boy? That's news for me regarding Armada Megatron next year...should make many very happy!

And a Commander Class Tidal Wave will make this ol' boy very very happy!

Hellscream9999 wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Legit best voyager in the main generations line since T30 Springer

You're making a convincing argument, but I have no love for his design - specifically his face. It just does nothing for me, and I'm afraid I might be missing out if he doesn't get retooled

DUDE! His face sculpt is one of the best features of this figure! How many other figures do you see with a head that angry, constipated and ugly?

Yeah, the alt mode is a bit on the ehhhhh side, but the robot mode is awesome

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Legit best voyager in the main generations line since T30 Springer

You know I am inclined to agree with you, out of all the voyagers released this one is freaking outstanding.

Burn wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Legit best voyager in the main generations line since T30 Springer

You're making a convincing argument, but I have no love for his design - specifically his face. It just does nothing for me, and I'm afraid I might be missing out if he doesn't get retooled

DUDE! His face sculpt is one of the best features of this figure! How many other figures do you see with a head that angry, constipated and ugly?

Yeah, the alt mode is a bit on the ehhhhh side, but the robot mode is awesome

Alt mode isn't even that bad honestly. But the transformation is a blast and robot mode just shines in its G2-ness. That head sculpt is infinitely better than any other in the line, it is perfect.

He is a great G2 Jhiaxus toy, a great toy in general, and a great G2 toy.

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

Burn wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Legit best voyager in the main generations line since T30 Springer

You're making a convincing argument, but I have no love for his design - specifically his face. It just does nothing for me, and I'm afraid I might be missing out if he doesn't get retooled

DUDE! His face sculpt is one of the best features of this figure! How many other figures do you see with a head that angry, constipated and ugly?

Yeah, the alt mode is a bit on the ehhhhh side, but the robot mode is awesome

Alt mode isn't even that bad honestly. But the transformation is a blast and robot mode just shines in its G2-ness. That head sculpt is infinitely better than any other in the line, it is perfect.

He is a great G2 Jhiaxus toy, a great toy in general, and a great G2 toy.

ugh, guess I'll find out in a few days now

Nemesis Destron wrote:Lest we forget.....




Did no Armada fans quench your thirst for this ol' boy? That's news for me regarding Armada Megatron next year...should make many very happy!

And a Commander Class Tidal Wave will make this ol' boy very very happy!

I wouldn't worry too much about the design, the only line Hasbro doesn't care about accurate designs for is Prime. An Armada figure should be just fine when it comes to recreating Armada Megatron.

And yeah, I thin Tidal Wave would be perfect for Commander class. I nave no real need for him as a Titan, but at the same height as Jetfire and the same combining feature as Sky Lynx feels like the right place for him.

Emerje

And a Commander class Tidal Wave would be of exact equal size to the original Armada figure.

I've never seen that picture with the Armada Megatron's. I know back right is the OG. I assume front/center is Legends and back left is CW?

Anyway, CC Tidal Wave would be ideal with a Leader Armada Megatron in 2023. The Titan could be The Nemesis ( I'd prefer Majin Zarak but...) There's also the chance of a 2nd CC instead of a Titan, which would allow for more options. But as I'm only in favor of updates on Combiners we don't already have, I'd rather have CC Tidal Wave and a new Evil Titan as opposed to another Combiner redo.

Could future Combiner teams be sold as sets at Titan price?

Motormaster $90
4 deluxes $100

Is $190 still Titan class price, before taxes and shipping?

Rodimus Prime wrote:Could future Combiner teams be sold as sets at Titan price?

Motormaster $90
4 deluxes $100

Is $190 still Titan class price, before taxes and shipping?

Titans are $160.

Sabrblade wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:Could future Combiner teams be sold as sets at Titan price?

Motormaster $90
4 deluxes $100

Is $190 still Titan class price, before taxes and shipping?

Titans are $160.

Legacy Metroplex and his base asking price of $199.99 disagrees.

Sabrblade wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:Could future Combiner teams be sold as sets at Titan price?

Motormaster $90
4 deluxes $100

Is $190 still Titan class price, before taxes and shipping?

Titans are $160.

They are not

Yeah, Metroplex is $225 on Pulse after taxes and shipping. I just wasn't sure about the base price. But I know it's not $160 anymore.

Rodimus Prime wrote:Yeah, Metroplex is $225 on Pulse after taxes and shipping. I just wasn't sure about the base price. But I know it's not $160 anymore.

They are around the 200$ mark these days, give or take depending the retailer

william-james88 wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:Yeah, Metroplex is $225 on Pulse after taxes and shipping. I just wasn't sure about the base price. But I know it's not $160 anymore.

They are around the 200$ mark these days, give or take depending the retailer

So yeah, a Legacy Motormaster box set would be titan priced.

And ironically, I think that if a CW set is ever reissued, it would be titan priced regardless.

I suspect next year's Commander Class is going to be Armanda Optimus Prime, given Armada Megatron's presence in the line, and that Tidal Wave will either be a Titan, or have to wait a year.