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Nemesis Primal wrote:

SpaceEagle wrote:

Nemesis Primal wrote:Other thing on this poster of note that I don't think I've seen anyone mention here yet: ALL SEVEN G1 Insecticons, Deluxes included.

I couldn't tell because of the blurry pictures I've seen, I was only able to make out Kickback, Shrapnel, and Bombshell, but the fact there's all 7 makes me excited. I'm glad the rest of the "Deluxe Insecticons" are getting new figures along with the main 3.

Took this off TFW:

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Thank you so much, now I'm extra hyped!

The rest look like they'll retool them where it counts but I hope this isn't just an empty teaser like with Polar Claw.

SpaceEagle wrote:I hope this isn't just an empty teaser like with Polar Claw.

To be fair, Polar Claw was originally planned to in Kingdom, it wasn't intentionally an empty teaser, they just showed art at Pulsecon that was made before Polar Claw got axed in favor of Tigatron being a Voyager.

Nemesis Primal wrote:

SpaceEagle wrote:I hope this isn't just an empty teaser like with Polar Claw.

To be fair, Polar Claw was originally planned to in Kingdom, it wasn't intentionally an empty teaser, they just showed art at Pulsecon that was made before Polar Claw got axed in favor of Tigatron being a Voyager.

Ah, okay, that's still unfortunate but that means I can still look out for more Insecticons!

I still think most of Needlenose's little problems could have been avoided if he was a voyager.

Rodimus Prime wrote:I still think most of Needlenose's little problems could have been avoided if he was a voyager.

The Voyager budget could've given the lil Sunbeam and Zigzag some extra articulation but honestly I think he's pretty perfect as-is in my eyes. Some extra kibble compacting would be nice, I don't think this is really that bad.

I'm still excited to get him to complete my Targetmaster team, especially since this looks more like Needlenose than the old TFCC one I have

Another great set of reveals, I'm really excited for next year's Legacy line. I didn't see Volcanicus coming, and while it may compromise the individual Dinobots somewhat, I can't wait to see what the end product looks like. Hot Shot, Lio Convoy and Tarn look fantastic, and while I wasn't initially interested in Junkions I am impressed by Scraphook and tempted to buy him. If I wanted a full set of Junkions though, I'm probably too late to get Studio Series 1986 Wreck-Gar for a reasonable price. It's also great to know Armada Optimus Prime is on the way, I'm guessing he's next year's Commander? I do hope the Armada updates don't stop at Optimus, Hot Shot, Megatron and Starscream, I'd love to see Demolishor and Red Alert.

Only ones are worth picking up are Tarn and Scraphook. The rest are so meh.

I saw Tarn's face and I swear my first thought was Spy vs Spy....

Well, that's Tarn pre-ordered!

~ Grim

For me it was rather a bore fest and he only one that was even remotely interesting was Scraphook, the look of both mode was pretty neat and the built potential for parts switching was teh most innovative I've seen in a while.

Next up is Needlenose, personally speaking I think the aesthetics on the CW version look better than this new version. I also think the timing if comical because I was just speaking about a potential Aerialbots redux and this bot certainly looks the part for reuse there.

Needlenose is fine as a Deluxe IMO. Wish Hot Shot had been a Voyager though.

Munkky wrote:It's also great to know Armada Optimus Prime is on the way, I'm guessing he's next year's Commander? I do hope the Armada updates don't stop at Optimus, Hot Shot, Megatron and Starscream, I'd love to see Demolishor and Red Alert.

I have mixed feelings about Unicron Trilogy updates, esp. with the post-DotM shrinkage (to where if they're not up-classing them like was done with Override, and they're not, they'd have to re-do bloody everybody to have them all match again)... I suppose the Armada figures are what need it the most given the compromised articulation on so many of them, but OtOH the potential for them to lose stuff (like Starscream losing his transforming wing sword... Dinobot got his real transforming tail weapon instead of a separate dummy piece that's nothing but baggage when not in use, why couldn't Starscream get that kind of treatment?) is high so... :/

I would personally be more excited for a Commander-class redo of Overlord than of Armada Optimus, awesome though the latter is. But hey, maybe HasTak will do a more elegant job than FansHobby did. And we'll see the corresponding Jetfire and Overload before the heat death of the universe.

Alright, let's take this step by step.

Core Soundblaster is a must-get, and I'll probably get the Dinobots for the novelty of a micro-Volcanicus.

Breakdown looks great in robot mode but suspect in car mode. 50/50, we'll see what happens.

Scraphook is awesome. The aesthetic, the alt mode, the sheer personality this thing conveys... must get item.

Honestly, I can take or leave Hot Shot. I'm a pretty big Unicron Trilogy person, but this just looks mid.

All I can say about Needlenose is FINALLY. We've been waiting on this guy since Siege, it's about damn time.

Lio Convoy is fine. Don't particularly care one way or the other.

Oh my God, I won't have to shell out money for MMC Kultur now! In all seriousness, I'm just about in love with Tarn. Getting him as soon as possible.

After a strong first year, the future of Legacy is looking bright!

Emerje wrote:

Till-all-R1 wrote:Next up is Needlenose, personally speaking I think the aesthetics on the CW version look better than this new version. I also think the timing if comical because I was just speaking about a potential Aerialbots redux and this bot certainly looks the part for reuse there.

Isn't his transformation upside down from the Aerialbots? Plus I don't think his wings can fold.

I'm really glad Hasbro gave us these versions of Needlenose and Spinister, it means I can keep my combiner versions with their team. Now I either need them to make a new Quake or figure out where to get that guy some Targetmaster partners.

Wouldn't surprise me if there was a Minicon set coming for the Armada guys missing their partners.

Emerje

Perhaps a Deluxe-budget set of Minicons much like the Arcee/Chromia/Elita-1 set?

As for Quake's Targetmasters I just yoinked 'em from the Sparkless Seeker set as placeholders until we get proper updates. (Either an updated pair or an updated Quake altogether!)

Gauntlet101010 wrote:Once upon a time those dinos would be on my preorder list so fast it'd make your head spin. But now I need to be more choosy.

Tarn is a must. Now I'm glad I didn't spend on 3P. I mean, I like him, but not at those prices. Once I see him on Gamestop I'll nab him.

I gotta buy those Junkions. A shame about the Autobot symbol, though. I'd have preferred them to use either the Junkion one or none at all. I mean, sure that scene of them attacking the Autobots in the movie was a fakeout, but I like the idea of them not really being involved in the Autobot / Decepticon war more than them being recruited as a whole race.

I likewise prefer the idea of them being more neutral per se, plus it helps jibe better with the commercial of Wreck-Gar that made him a Decepticon.

Emerje wrote:

Till-all-R1 wrote:Next up is Needlenose, personally speaking I think the aesthetics on the CW version look better than this new version. I also think the timing if comical because I was just speaking about a potential Aerialbots redux and this bot certainly looks the part for reuse there.

Isn't his transformation upside down from the Aerialbots? Plus I don't think his wings can fold.

The CW Needlenose is a straight re-deco of Deluxe Class CW Firefly and that is exactly why I passed on him, wasn't impressive at all.

This new needlenose looks almost exact to his G1 counterpart.

https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Needlenose_(G1)

Ill take something original instead of a straight repaint anyday.

While we got many fun reveals today, the poster shown to us gives us even more. We can tie in what we see on the poster with what we know is coming in the Legacy Evolution line. So while we got reveals for 9 figures today, the poster gives us the first look at a lot more of the figures we know are coming. And for those unaware, we will list all the upcoming figures below. First, here is the poster, check out Armada Optimus Prime at the top:



Since we know all the leader class toys coming this year (more on that below), that leaves Armada Optimus Prime to be the commander class figure for the 2023 line. The only 2 figures we don't know of at this point are the Titan class and Commander class. And and Armada Optimus with trailer sure fits the bill for Commander class.

That leaves the titan and the other clue could also be on the poster. If you look at the face in the middle, it was believed to be Tarn at first but as it turns out, there's more to it (that was also cryptically said in today's panel). It could be the face of the robot mode of this year's titan which is rumored to be the Nemesis. Of course, that's just a rumour. Now let's move on to what we know is coming and remember Pr means RERELEASE. As you'll see below, Hasbro has planned a release of 11 cores, 16 deluxes, 8 voyagers, and 6 leaders. Those numbers include rereleases from the previous year, of course.

Core class

Tra Gen Legacy Ev Core Sludge (seen today)
Product Number: F7174
EAN: 5010994196714

Tra Gen Legacy EV Core Soundblaster (seen today)
Product Number: F7176
EAN: 5010994196721

Tra Gen Legacy EV Core Slug (seen today)
Product number: F7178
EAN: 5010994196738

Tra Gen Legacy Ev Core Thundercracker
Product Number: F7179

Tra Gen Legacy EV core Nemesis Prime
EAN: 5010996120533

Tra Gen Legacy EV Core Grimlock (shown on poster)
EAN: 5010996120540

Tra Gen Legacy EV Core Bomburst Pr
EAN: 5010996120557

Tra Gen Legacy EV Core Swoop (shown on Poster, that is NOT the leader class toy)
EAN: 5010996120564

Tra Gen Legacy EV Core Starscream Pr
EAN: 5010996120571

Tra Gen Legacy EV Core Skar (this will be your 6th Dinobot)
EAN: 5010996120588

Tra Gen Legacy EV Core Snarl
EAN: 5010996120601


Deluxe Class

Breakdown

Tra Gen Legacy Ev Deluxe Needlenose (seen today)
Product Number: F7188
EAN: 5010994196950

Tra Gen Legacy Ev Deluxe Hot Shot (seen today)
Product Number: F7190
EAN: 5010994196967

Tra Gen Legacy Ev Deluxe Scraphook (seen today)
Product Number: F7191
EAN: 5010994196974

Tra Gen Legacy EV Deluxe Shrapnel (shown on poster)
Product Number: F7192
EAN: 5010994198749

Tra Gen Legacy EV Deluxe Prowl
Product Number: F7193
EAN: 5010994202286

Tra Gen Legacy EV Deluxe Crosscut (shown on poster)
Product Number:F7194
EAN: 5010994202279

Tra Gen Legacy Ev Deluxe Junkion 2 (shown on poster, either car or motorcycle)
Product Number: F7195
EAN: 5010994202262

Tra Gen Legacy Deluxe Beachcomber
Product Number: F7196

Tra Gen Legacy Ev Deluxe ShadowStriker
Product Number: F7197

Tra Gen Legacy Ev Deluxe Devcon
product Number : F7198

Tra Gen legacy Ev Deluxe Junkion 3 (shown on poster, either car or motorcycle)
Product Number: F7199

Tra Gen Legacy Ev Deluxe Bombshell (shown on poster)
Product Number: F7200

Tra Gen Legacy Ev Deluxe Strongarm
Product Number: F7201

Tra Gen Legacy Ev Deluxe Detrius
Product Number: F7202

Tra Gen legacy Ev Deluxe Tarantulas Pr
Product Number: F7204


Voyager class

Tra Gen Legacy Ev Voyager Tarn (seen today)
Product Number: F7205
EAN: 5010994197278

Tra Gen Legacy Ev Voyager Leo Prime (seen today)
Product Number: F7206
EAN: 5010994197285

Tra Gen Legacy Ev Voyager Metalhawk
Product Number: F7207
EAN:5010994202309

Tra Gen Legacy EV Voyager Nemesis Leo (redeco of Leo prime)
EAN: 5010996149657

Tra Gen Legacy EV Voyager Ramjet Pr
EAN: 5010996149664

Tra Gen Legacy EV Voyager Junkion
EAN: 5010996149671

Tra Gen Legacy Ev Voyager Bludgeon: (possibly a partial of Tarn)
EAN: 5010996149688

Tra Gen Legacy Ev Voyager Dirge Pr
Product Number: F7212


Leader class

Tra Gen legacy Ev LDR Laser Op PR (shown on Poster, interestingly enough)
Product Number: F7214
EAN: 5010994207830

Tra Gen Legacy Ev LDR TransMetal Megs Pr
Product Number: F7215
EAN: 5010994207823

Tra Gen Legacy Ev Leader Prime Skyquake
product Number: F7216
EAN: 5010994207816

Tra Gen Legacy Ev Leader Armada Megatron
Product Number: F7217
EAN: 5010994207786

Tra Gen Legacy Ev LDR Blitzwing PR
Product Number: F7230
EAN: 5010994207571

Tra Gen Legacy EV leader Prime Dreadwing (redeco of Skyquake)
EAN: 5010996150387

Those codes come from fellow Seibertronian JTPrime17. Here are also more toys coming out next year that are a bit tougher to discern. The number for WLD RDR is off in comparison to the rest of the line and we have two more selects toys with only the Canadian price as a clue. The prices show us one deluxe and one titan. Those come from fellow Seibertronian Gotbot.

Tra Gen Legacy EV Robo WLD RDR
Product Number: F3038

0A5 Tra Gen Collab 5
$54.99 CAD

Tra Gen Selects 1
$35.99 CAD

Tra Gen Selects 2
$299.99 CAD.

So that Skar's a 6th Dinobot? Damn, so much for my hope that was gonna be re-do or 2-pack rerelease of Doubledealer's partners lol. Also, who not do Scorn? Oh well.

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:So that Skar's a 6th Dinobot? Damn, so much for my hope that was gonna be re-do or 2-pack rerelease of Doubledealer's partners lol. Also, who not do Scorn? Oh well.

Because by doing Skar, who I've been told turns into an ankylosaurus, and making the torso out of Slug and Sludge as we've seen, they've now set themselves up with the necessary molds to repaint/retool this set of Core Dinos into the Dinoking crew. None of the Dinoking components turned into spinos like Scorn, but they did have an ankylosaurus.

Nemesis Primal wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:So that Skar's a 6th Dinobot? Damn, so much for my hope that was gonna be re-do or 2-pack rerelease of Doubledealer's partners lol. Also, who not do Scorn? Oh well.

Because by doing Skar, who I've been told turns into an ankylosaurus, and making the torso out of Slug and Sludge as we've seen, they've now set themselves up with the necessary molds to repaint/retool this set of Core Dinos into the Dinoking crew. None of the Dinoking components turned into spinos like Scorn, but they did have an ankylosaurus.

Oh huh, that makes a lot more sense with that in mind.

Scraphook, Detritus, two deluxe Junkions, and a voyager Junkion.

In the poster we have what looks like:
- An armored DMC-12.
- Half a tow truck combined either with two motorcycles or half of something that looks like the Tumbler.
- One motorcycle combined with the front right corner of a car (as a "sidecar")
- Another motorcycle
- Two distinct Junkion robots.

The Delorean is presumably one of the deluxe Junkions. The towtruck is either a retool of Scraphook, or more likely a Scraphook parts-mixed with the third deluxe Junkion. So does the third deluxe Junkion turn into a weird Tumbler-esque vehicle? Two motorcycles? Or what? And what of Detritus? A scraphook retool, or a pretool of an unannounced Hound figure, maybe?

A voyager class figure sharing the C.O.M.B.A.T. system gimmick would be unprecedented, so... hmmm... not sure - but if the voyager Junkion were a rerelease of SS86 Wreck-Gar I would think they'd just say so. On the other hand, not having some form of Wreckgar in a Junkion-themed line seems insane, so I have to think that Legacy Bulkhead could be retooled into Animated Wreckgar.

However, I'm also tempted to think the voyager junkion could be a deluxe-size motorcycle with a rider that splits into two core-ish class bots. That wpuld give us one of the motorcycles in the picture and the two guys small enough to ride on the other deluxe-class Junkions. And it would serve as a pretool for Armada Sideways and his minicons.

Below you will see nice hi res images of the reveals we had today from Hasbro Pulse Con. Preorders are already up as well from a variety of retailers. Hasbro Pulse also now has the preorder up for the exclusive 2 pack of Alpha Trion and Orion Pax.

The non exclusive toys currently up for preorder with delivery dates of march 2023 are. The images below show us some gimmicks that were unexplored today like Leo Convoy's armed lion mode and Hotshot's canon made from his wheels (probably because, as with all gimmicks, they are more aimed towards kids than older fans).

Transformers Legacy Evolution Core Dinobot Slug
Transformers Legacy Evolution Core Dinobot Sludge
Transformers Legacy Evolution Core Soundblaster

Transformers Legacy Evolution Deluxe Breakdown
Transformers Legacy Evolution Deluxe Scraphook
Transformers Legacy Evolution Deluxe Armada Hot Shot
Transformers Legacy Evolution Deluxe Needlenose

Transformers Legacy Evolution Voyager Leo Prime
Transformers Legacy Evolution Voyager Tarn

If you are wondering, the "wave 1" leaders are repacks of Legacy year 1 leaders.

Bigbadtoystore: https://www.bigbadtoystore.com/search?H ... eries=2023

Hasbro Pulse: https://hasbropulse.com/search?q=transformers

TFSource: https://tfsource.com/search/view/status ... 0Evolution

Entertainment Earth: https://www.entertainmentearth.com/s/?i ... 0Evolution

Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/s?k=Transformers ... _sb_noss_2

So Needlenose is almost literally just his G1 figure with articulation? I guess the budget for Sunbeam and Zigzag ate up what might have otherwise gone to deco or more complexity in transformation.