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Sculyblast wrote:So when can we expect the announcement for the Exclusive legacy Cryotek?

No one know for a "when". Could be next week or could be next year.
But one thing is sure, if T-Wrecks was done, there's no reasons why such an easy Cryotek repaint wouldn't be done.

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Sculyblast wrote:So when can we expect the announcement for the Exclusive legacy Cryotek?

No one know for a "when". Could be next week or could be next year.
But one thing is sure, if T-Wrecks was done, there's no reasons why such an easy Cryotek repaint wouldn't be done.

I wonder if history would repeat itself and Hasbro would offer it to Target as an exclusive just like the original.

Emerje

Emerje wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Sculyblast wrote:So when can we expect the announcement for the Exclusive legacy Cryotek?

No one know for a "when". Could be next week or could be next year.
But one thing is sure, if T-Wrecks was done, there's no reasons why such an easy Cryotek repaint wouldn't be done.

I wonder if history would repeat itself and Hasbro would offer it to Target as an exclusive just like the original.

Emerje

I would bet on it.
It will also be a Toys R Us exclusive.

Then for some reasons, Walmart.ca will have the overstock.

And some times later, BOOM, 30$CAN on clearance.

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Sculyblast wrote:So when can we expect the announcement for the Exclusive legacy Cryotek?

No one know for a "when". Could be next week or could be next year.
But one thing is sure, if T-Wrecks was done, there's no reasons why such an easy Cryotek repaint wouldn't be done.

On the other hand, we did get a new Optimal Optimus, but a Primal Prime redeco of it never happened.

But there was the SDCC Throne of the Primes repaint. I think Hasbro is happy if they can get at least a minimum of 2 uses of each new mold they make. Still waiting for a Selects "toy color" Double Clouder from ER Double Dealer. I think that is the oldest Leader Class in recent times that hasn't been reused.

Legacy Blitzwing is going to be especially tricky, also, unless they just do a Diaclone colors one.

Sabrblade wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Sculyblast wrote:So when can we expect the announcement for the Exclusive legacy Cryotek?

No one know for a "when". Could be next week or could be next year.
But one thing is sure, if T-Wrecks was done, there's no reasons why such an easy Cryotek repaint wouldn't be done.

On the other hand, we did get a new Optimal Optimus, but a Primal Prime redeco of it never happened.

Primal Prime and Burning Convoy seems to be exclusive to Japan while T-Wrecks and Cryotek both got releases at the time. So the Hasbro ones are pretty much sure to get repainted. The red ones are for to make, like all the other "burnings".

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Sculyblast wrote:So when can we expect the announcement for the Exclusive legacy Cryotek?

No one know for a "when". Could be next week or could be next year.
But one thing is sure, if T-Wrecks was done, there's no reasons why such an easy Cryotek repaint wouldn't be done.

On the other hand, we did get a new Optimal Optimus, but a Primal Prime redeco of it never happened.

Primal Prime and Burning Convoy seems to be exclusive to Japan while T-Wrecks and Cryotek both got releases at the time. So the Hasbro ones are pretty much sure to get repainted. The red ones are for to make, like all the other "burnings".

Primal Prime wasn't exclusive to Japan, it was an exclusive in Japan (to TRU), it was a limited Beast Machines release from Hasbro (TFWiki says they only made 10,000). Cryotek also got a Japanese release as a "USA Edition".

Funny thing about PotP Optimal Optimus is that he was a fan vote winner that nobody voted for. Optimus Primal was the vote winner and while there is a Primal in the box it's decidedly not the figure we were expecting.

Emerje

Yeah, Primal Prime was a Hasbro-original toy. Beast Machines didn't exist in Japan yet at the time, and if he had been a Takara-original, there's no way he would have been named "Primal Prime". He'd have been named something with "Convoy" in the name. Takara didn't use the words "Prime" or "Primal" in their Transformers toys' names back then. And his biggest role back then was in 3H BotCon comics, which also never released in Japan.

Sabrblade wrote:Yeah, Primal Prime was a Hasbro-original toy. Beast Machines didn't exist in Japan yet at the time, and if he had been a Takara-original, there's no way he would have been named "Primal Prime". He'd have been named something with "Convoy" in the name. Takara didn't use the words "Prime" or "Primal" in their Transformers toys' names back then. And his biggest role back then was in 3H BotCon comics, which also never released in Japan.

Eh, that was unexpected.

On the other hand, the original Optimal Optimus never got an all black release, right?

-Kanrabat- wrote:Eh, that was unexpected.

On the other hand, the original Optimal Optimus never got an all black release, right?

None of the Primal variants did IIRC. Lio Convoy (Copy Convoy) was the very first in a long line of evil copy's in Black. Not sure if Big Convoy got one or not. There wasn't one in the show.

o.supreme wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:Eh, that was unexpected.

On the other hand, the original Optimal Optimus never got an all black release, right?

None of the Primal variants did IIRC. Lio Convoy (Copy Convoy) was the very first in a long line of evil copy's in Black. Not sure if Big Convoy got one or not. There wasn't one in the show.

Onyx Primal was the very first evil black Optimus redeco ever.

Sabrblade wrote:

o.supreme wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:Eh, that was unexpected.

On the other hand, the original Optimal Optimus never got an all black release, right?

None of the Primal variants did IIRC. Lio Convoy (Copy Convoy) was the very first in a long line of evil copy's in Black. Not sure if Big Convoy got one or not. There wasn't one in the show.

Onyx Primal was the very first evil black Optimus redeco ever.

It took BOTCON to do this concept?


Transformers BotCon Exclusives Onyx Primal Gallery

Eh, it's more recent than I thought. If 1996 is "recent", that is.
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-Kanrabat- wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

o.supreme wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:Eh, that was unexpected.

On the other hand, the original Optimal Optimus never got an all black release, right?

None of the Primal variants did IIRC. Lio Convoy (Copy Convoy) was the very first in a long line of evil copy's in Black. Not sure if Big Convoy got one or not. There wasn't one in the show.

Onyx Primal was the very first evil black Optimus redeco ever.

It took BOTCON to do this concept?

And not even the normal BotCon people who later went on to run the convention annually, but the one-off group Men in Black who only ever ran BotCon 1996 (to disastrous results, even, hence why they were never brought back to run BotCon ever again).

And, well, the Onyx Primal toy only happened in the first place because of the bat Optimus Primal toy's preexisting resemblance to Batman.

o.supreme wrote:...Still waiting for a Selects "toy color" Double Clouder from ER Double Dealer. I think that is the oldest Leader Class in recent times that hasn't been reused.

There are so many better and more interesting redecoes of that mold, including Stalker, Machine Wars Soundwave, and Cybertron Defense Red Alert, even if some of those can't take advantage of the third mode. I had given up on the odds of any of them, but if they can dust off Siege Astrotrain, maybe it's not too late.

Sabrblade wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

o.supreme wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:Eh, that was unexpected.

On the other hand, the original Optimal Optimus never got an all black release, right?

None of the Primal variants did IIRC. Lio Convoy (Copy Convoy) was the very first in a long line of evil copy's in Black. Not sure if Big Convoy got one or not. There wasn't one in the show.

Onyx Primal was the very first evil black Optimus redeco ever.

It took BOTCON to do this concept?

And not even the normal BotCon people who later went on the run the convention annually, but the one-off group Men in Black who only ever ran BotCon 1996 (to disastrous results, even, hence why they were never brought back to run BotCon ever again).

And, well, the Onyx Primal toy only happened in the first place because of the bat Optimus Primal toy's preexisting resemblance to Batman.

Looks like I'm over 20 years too late to buy it.
Holy crap that price...

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

o.supreme wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:Eh, that was unexpected.

On the other hand, the original Optimal Optimus never got an all black release, right?

None of the Primal variants did IIRC. Lio Convoy (Copy Convoy) was the very first in a long line of evil copy's in Black. Not sure if Big Convoy got one or not. There wasn't one in the show.

Onyx Primal was the very first evil black Optimus redeco ever.

It took BOTCON to do this concept?

And not even the normal BotCon people who later went on the run the convention annually, but the one-off group Men in Black who only ever ran BotCon 1996 (to disastrous results, even, hence why they were never brought back to run BotCon ever again).

And, well, the Onyx Primal toy only happened in the first place because of the bat Optimus Primal toy's preexisting resemblance to Batman.

Looks like I'm over 20 years too late to buy it.
Holy crap that price...

Ironic, considering how much leftover stock they had for several years after the convention. There was a time where he went for pretty good prices on the aftermarket.

My personal expectation/prediction is that Cryotek is gonna be the other Leader alongside G2 Grim in the next Walmart capsule, since my theory is that it's gonna be a Jungle Planet/Eukaris/Beast line as both a follow-up to Velocitron and to tie into the movie, but there's zero concrete evidence of that being the case.

Sabrblade wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

o.supreme wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:Eh, that was unexpected.

On the other hand, the original Optimal Optimus never got an all black release, right?

None of the Primal variants did IIRC. Lio Convoy (Copy Convoy) was the very first in a long line of evil copy's in Black. Not sure if Big Convoy got one or not. There wasn't one in the show.

Onyx Primal was the very first evil black Optimus redeco ever.

It took BOTCON to do this concept?

And not even the normal BotCon people who later went on the run the convention annually, but the one-off group Men in Black who only ever ran BotCon 1996 (to disastrous results, even, hence why they were never brought back to run BotCon ever again).

And, well, the Onyx Primal toy only happened in the first place because of the bat Optimus Primal toy's preexisting resemblance to Batman.

Looks like I'm over 20 years too late to buy it.
Holy crap that price...

Ironic, considering how much leftover stock they had for several years after the convention. There was a time where he went for pretty good prices on the aftermarket.

Having know when I started collecting back in 2010, I should have looked it up on eBay.
Oh well.

This was truly unexpected. I spotted an actual Legacy Evo toy (Hot Shot) at a Walmart today. I'm inclined to say it was a return of some kind (either that or I'm the first person to spot a Legacy Evo toy at Walmart) as it was the only one, and there are no Legacy Evo tags in the Walmart section of any of the stores in my area, and certainly not at the store I was at. Unfortunately walmart dosen't have price scanners anymore so I couldn't check for myself, and I didn't want to take it to checkout since I wasn't interested in that item.

I guess it's ironic I've seen a single Needlenose at Target once, and now a single Hotshot at a Walmart... Oh well... my Scraphook pre-order on Amazon for March 3rd looks like it will be the first opportunity to obtain this toy.

o.supreme wrote:Unfortunately walmart dosen't have price scanners anymore so I couldn't check for myself, and I didn't want to take it to checkout since I wasn't interested in that item.

You're supposed to use the Walmart app on your phone to check prices. It mostly works, though not always on clearance and new items.

But wow, something other than Legacy Deluxe wave 1 at Walmart, never thought I'd see the day.

Emerje

Emerje wrote:

o.supreme wrote:Unfortunately walmart dosen't have price scanners anymore so I couldn't check for myself, and I didn't want to take it to checkout since I wasn't interested in that item.

You're supposed to use the Walmart app on your phone to check prices. It mostly works, though not always on clearance and new items

Definitely use the app, set to your store especially concerning Clearance! There's bound to be discrepancies between the price sticker and the price in the store system.

o.supreme wrote:This was truly unexpected. I spotted an actual Legacy Evo toy (Hot Shot) at a Walmart today. I'm inclined to say it was a return of some kind

Could be. I once found a Prime First Edition Deluxe class Bumblebee at a Walmart, and that was a TRU exclusive.

Sabrblade wrote:

o.supreme wrote:This was truly unexpected. I spotted an actual Legacy Evo toy (Hot Shot) at a Walmart today. I'm inclined to say it was a return of some kind

Could be. I once found a Prime First Edition Deluxe class Bumblebee at a Walmart, and that was a TRU exclusive.

T-Wrecks was supposed to be a TrU exclusive over here. After they did their run, some months later it was found (and still is) at Walmart.ca. I even got it in some one day special at 30$can.

I finally spotted a lone Lio Prime at Target last night, so I guess Tarn was gone.

Rodimus Prime wrote:I finally spotted a lone Lio Prime at Target last night, so I guess Tarn was gone.

Yeah, its 2 LP's and 1 Tarn. Ive seen lots of LP lately, but only saw a couple of Tarns just in the last week. Also oddly enough. One Target near me finally got a single case of Voyager Legacy wave 3. 2 Armada Screamers were there, but no BW Inferno. I'm sure he was snatched up rather quickly.