The Energon Pub

Sabrblade wrote:Word of advice, when mods and admins (which both Will and D-Max are) tell you to stop something, it's best not to argue.

I see that there has been a strange formatting issue, which has led to my comment looking extremely off topic. But it was in reply to someone or other (you know who you are) replying to my comment on how I dont agree with the ideas of IDW and wonder if there are any comic for me to read. Either I quoted the wrong conversation, or someone deliberately hacked it to seem like I was off topic. But either way, I will not sacrifice my honesty or beliefs just to stay on a website, and I will NEVER pretend to agree with ideas I beleive are wrong. I Beleive I have stated my case clearly, hands shaking, while I type this. I need lunch now, that's all I have to say for now.

Perhaps it was those pesky Satanist Russians that hacked you, we've all been bamboozled

Razorbeast88 wrote:Perhaps it was those pesky Satanist Russians that hacked you, we've all been bamboozled

Could have been me clicking on the wrong "quote", but I'm really not sure how far the owners of this site will go.

Final Verbal warning before actual warnings handed out.

Everyone back on topic.

And don't respond to this message or any others above related to off-topic conversations.

I have said all I wanted to say. But if I feel I am disrespected, I will say last words and leave. But I see there is nothing to argue about now, so I won't likely bring it up again.

Well since Jiaxhus is getting such warm reviews from y'all I'll ask a few questions about him, I really like 90s stuff and he throws such hard vibes, might help decide a purchase or not!
So. Do the arms really just kinda fold up and hang off the bottom of his jet mode and does that look/feel as intrusive as it visual appears?

M. Spector wrote:Well since Jiaxhus is getting such warm reviews from y'all I'll ask a few questions about him, I really like 90s stuff and he throws such hard vibes, might help decide a purchase or not!
So. Do the arms really just kinda fold up and hang off the bottom of his jet mode and does that look/feel as intrusive as it visual appears?

I feel there's quite a bit to the arm transformation as they're on a double hinge that moves them to the fuselage position. I think it's nice to have a good chunk of plastic to hold on to, to swoosh around.

Jhiaxus is very good, a lot of fun, and looks like he walked right out of the G2 comics. I took him to work today, and he simply oozes personality.

I have no problems with his jet mode, The arms form a small undercarriage, but he sits well on it and it gives you a good hand spot to swoosh him around

M. Spector wrote:Do the arms really just kinda fold up and hang off the bottom of his jet mode and does that look/feel as intrusive as it visual appears?

Yep. But you know what? It's not as bad as it sounds. The weirdness of the jet mode as a whole really distracts you from the chunky undercarriage.

But really, who wants to keep Jhiaxus in alt mode hiding that amazing head sculpt of his?

So Amazon UK has updated some listings/added some product descriptions and thrown some...interesting wrenches in the works, regarding what we're expecting to see revealed next week. Up until this point, the store listings and leaks we had implied Wave 3 to include the following:
Core: Energon Monster, Soundwave repack, Skullgrin maybe (it was unclear if Skullgrin was Wave 3 and then repacked in Wave 4, or was just Wave 4)
Deluxe: Energon Monster, Pointblank, Crankcase, Dead End
Voyagers: Armada Starscream, Predacon Inferno
Leader: TM2 Megatron
We know those Voyagers and that Leader are still on the docket, but the newly updated Amazon UK listings have changed the Deluxes to be Dead End, Crankcase, Pointblank & Peacemaker (with the product description calling Peacemaker out as the only included accessory) and the Energon Monster is now Skullgrin. If that is accurate, that means 2 of the Core Class listings are now in question, as that would imply that the Core Energon Monster is probably another currently-unspecified Pretender, and there's either 2 Skullgrins coming or Core Skullgrin has been replaced.

The TFW article with said product descriptions, for those who want to read them: https://news.tfw2005.com/2022/07/14/tra ... ons-460703

EDIT: Said Amazon pages have now been taken down, which leads credence to the idea that they were real early pages for SDCC reveals.

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Final Verbal warning before actual warnings handed out.

Everyone back on topic.

And don't respond to this message or any others above related to off-topic conversations.

While we knew that the Stunticons would be completed in a 4th deluxe Wave, we didn't know who the wavemates would be ( presumably all repacks from earlier waves?) But hearing Dead End will be part of a 4th wave with Skullgrin and Point Blank , new leaks of toys coming presumably sooner than the leaks we got a little while ago about 2nd year Legacy, is kind of cool.

Of course, as we saw last year with Pipes and Slammer, last minute changes can mix things up, so we shall see.

o.supreme wrote:While we knew that the Stunticons would be completed in a 4th deluxe Wave, we didn't know who the wavemates would be ( presumably all repacks from earlier waves?) But hearing Dead End will be part of a 4th wave with Skullgrin and Point Blank , new leaks of toys coming presumably sooner than the leaks we got a little while ago about 2nd year Legacy, is kind of cool.

Of course, as we saw last year with Pipes and Slammer, last minute changes can mix things up, so we shall see.

Hopefully we'll see at SDCC though I'm thinking more towards mid autumn on Legacy year 2

o.supreme wrote:While we knew that the Stunticons would be completed in a 4th deluxe Wave, we didn't know who the wavemates would be ( presumably all repacks from earlier waves?) But hearing Dead End will be part of a 4th wave with Skullgrin and Point Blank , new leaks of toys coming presumably sooner than the leaks we got a little while ago about 2nd year Legacy, is kind of cool.

Of course, as we saw last year with Pipes and Slammer, last minute changes can mix things up, so we shall see.

No no, this Dead End/Pointblank/Crankcase/Skullgrin wave is Wave 3. Wave 4 is still supposed to be Breakdown and WFC repacks of Cheetor and Wheeljack, kinda like you initially said.

ZeroWolf wrote:Hopefully we'll see at SDCC though I'm thinking more towards mid autumn on Legacy year 2

Considering Wave 4 is only supposed to contain 2-3 new figures (depending on what's going on with Core Class now that Skullgrin's a Deluxe), I'm predicting/hoping that they're just gonna reveal both waves 3 and 4 at SDCC so they can reveal Wave 5/Year 2 in autumn like you said. Hasbro has done multiple-wave reveals at events like this in the past.

[quote="Nemesis Primal"
Deluxe: Energon Monster
We know those Voyagers and that Leader are still on the docket, but the newly updated Amazon UK listings have changed the Deluxes to be Dead End, Crankcase, Pointblank & Peacemaker (with the product description calling Peacemaker out as the only included accessory) and the Energon Monster is now Skullgrin. If that is accurate, that means 2 of the Core Class listings are now in question, as that would imply that the Core Energon Monster is probably another currently-unspecified Pretender.

EDIT: Said Amazon pages have now been taken down, which leads credence to the idea that they were real early pages for SDCC reveals.[/quote]

Any other theoris about energon monster, or does this make sense to you? (Maye it's that bat pretender, like a vampire)

Nemesis Primal wrote:

o.supreme wrote:While we knew that the Stunticons would be completed in a 4th deluxe Wave, we didn't know who the wavemates would be ( presumably all repacks from earlier waves?) But hearing Dead End will be part of a 4th wave with Skullgrin and Point Blank , new leaks of toys coming presumably sooner than the leaks we got a little while ago about 2nd year Legacy, is kind of cool.

Of course, as we saw last year with Pipes and Slammer, last minute changes can mix things up, so we shall see.

No no, this Dead End/Pointblank/Crankcase/Skullgrin wave is Wave 3. Wave 4 is still supposed to be Breakdown and WFC repacks of Cheetor and Wheeljack, kinda like you initially said.

ZeroWolf wrote:Hopefully we'll see at SDCC though I'm thinking more towards mid autumn on Legacy year 2

Considering Wave 4 is only supposed to contain 2-3 new figures (depending on what's going on with Core Class now that Skullgrin's a Deluxe), I'm predicting/hoping that they're just gonna reveal both waves 3 and 4 at SDCC so they can reveal Wave 5/Year 2 in autumn like you said. Hasbro has done multiple-wave reveals at events like this in the past.

I thank you for always keeping us up to date, Nemesis Primal. These new listings are a bit confusing since they change depending on the amazon site and we've had that before (referring to Skullgrin here). For now, I'll wait till we know more or JT Pime chimes in to clear things up before I news something. In any case, we'll get confirmation of this wave at SDCC in a week

o.supreme wrote:While we knew that the Stunticons would be completed in a 4th deluxe Wave, we didn't know who the wavemates would be

We do, we have the exact characters that will be repacked in that wave

Nemesis Primal wrote:

o.supreme wrote:While we knew that the Stunticons would be completed in a 4th deluxe Wave, we didn't know who the wavemates would be ( presumably all repacks from earlier waves?) But hearing Dead End will be part of a 4th wave with Skullgrin and Point Blank , new leaks of toys coming presumably sooner than the leaks we got a little while ago about 2nd year Legacy, is kind of cool.

Of course, as we saw last year with Pipes and Slammer, last minute changes can mix things up, so we shall see.

No no, this Dead End/Pointblank/Crankcase/Skullgrin wave is Wave 3. Wave 4 is still supposed to be Breakdown and WFC repacks of Cheetor and Wheeljack, kinda like you initially said.

Do really need yet another Wheeljack? How many times has he been released now? 5? Where are other figures like Sunstreaker or Prowl for example? Why aren't they getting re-releases?

Is there anyone out there that still needs a Wheeljack and can't get one of the previous versions?

Granted, he's a really good figure, but does he need to be in every line?

Overcracker wrote:

Nemesis Primal wrote:

o.supreme wrote:While we knew that the Stunticons would be completed in a 4th deluxe Wave, we didn't know who the wavemates would be ( presumably all repacks from earlier waves?) But hearing Dead End will be part of a 4th wave with Skullgrin and Point Blank , new leaks of toys coming presumably sooner than the leaks we got a little while ago about 2nd year Legacy, is kind of cool.

Of course, as we saw last year with Pipes and Slammer, last minute changes can mix things up, so we shall see.

No no, this Dead End/Pointblank/Crankcase/Skullgrin wave is Wave 3. Wave 4 is still supposed to be Breakdown and WFC repacks of Cheetor and Wheeljack, kinda like you initially said.

Do really need yet another Wheeljack? How many times has he been released now? 5? Where are other figures like Sunstreaker or Prowl for example? Why aren't they getting re-releases?

Is there anyone out there that still needs a Wheeljack and can't get one of the previous versions?

Not me. Wheeljack drew the short straw in my collection, I'm waiting till the authentic gets downscaled, it's much cheaper and better than most authentics.

RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:

Overcracker wrote:

Nemesis Primal wrote:

o.supreme wrote:While we knew that the Stunticons would be completed in a 4th deluxe Wave, we didn't know who the wavemates would be ( presumably all repacks from earlier waves?) But hearing Dead End will be part of a 4th wave with Skullgrin and Point Blank , new leaks of toys coming presumably sooner than the leaks we got a little while ago about 2nd year Legacy, is kind of cool.

Of course, as we saw last year with Pipes and Slammer, last minute changes can mix things up, so we shall see.

No no, this Dead End/Pointblank/Crankcase/Skullgrin wave is Wave 3. Wave 4 is still supposed to be Breakdown and WFC repacks of Cheetor and Wheeljack, kinda like you initially said.

Do really need yet another Wheeljack? How many times has he been released now? 5? Where are other figures like Sunstreaker or Prowl for example? Why aren't they getting re-releases?

Is there anyone out there that still needs a Wheeljack and can't get one of the previous versions?

Not me. Wheeljack drew the short straw in my collection, I'm waiting till the authentic gets downscaled, it's much cheaper and better than most authentics.

Agreed, the Authentics version is pretty good looking. A bit light on the articulation, bot otherwise looks pretty good. Can't find him anywhere near me though

Overcracker wrote:

RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:

Overcracker wrote:

Nemesis Primal wrote:

o.supreme wrote:While we knew that the Stunticons would be completed in a 4th deluxe Wave, we didn't know who the wavemates would be ( presumably all repacks from earlier waves?) But hearing Dead End will be part of a 4th wave with Skullgrin and Point Blank , new leaks of toys coming presumably sooner than the leaks we got a little while ago about 2nd year Legacy, is kind of cool.

Of course, as we saw last year with Pipes and Slammer, last minute changes can mix things up, so we shall see.

No no, this Dead End/Pointblank/Crankcase/Skullgrin wave is Wave 3. Wave 4 is still supposed to be Breakdown and WFC repacks of Cheetor and Wheeljack, kinda like you initially said.

Do really need yet another Wheeljack? How many times has he been released now? 5? Where are other figures like Sunstreaker or Prowl for example? Why aren't they getting re-releases?

Is there anyone out there that still needs a Wheeljack and can't get one of the previous versions?

Not me. Wheeljack drew the short straw in my collection, I'm waiting till the authentic gets downscaled, it's much cheaper and better than most authentics.

Agreed, the Authentics version is pretty good looking. A bit light on the articulation, bot otherwise looks pretty good. Can't find him anywhere near me though

Articulation is good, just not WFC good. Scale is off though, I hope he gets downscaled then I'll buy him. (he'll also be EVEN CHEAPER that way) I'd say this figure is a win-win.

RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:

Overcracker wrote:

RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:

Overcracker wrote:

Nemesis Primal wrote:

o.supreme wrote:While we knew that the Stunticons would be completed in a 4th deluxe Wave, we didn't know who the wavemates would be ( presumably all repacks from earlier waves?) But hearing Dead End will be part of a 4th wave with Skullgrin and Point Blank , new leaks of toys coming presumably sooner than the leaks we got a little while ago about 2nd year Legacy, is kind of cool.

Of course, as we saw last year with Pipes and Slammer, last minute changes can mix things up, so we shall see.

No no, this Dead End/Pointblank/Crankcase/Skullgrin wave is Wave 3. Wave 4 is still supposed to be Breakdown and WFC repacks of Cheetor and Wheeljack, kinda like you initially said.

Do really need yet another Wheeljack? How many times has he been released now? 5? Where are other figures like Sunstreaker or Prowl for example? Why aren't they getting re-releases?

Is there anyone out there that still needs a Wheeljack and can't get one of the previous versions?

Not me. Wheeljack drew the short straw in my collection, I'm waiting till the authentic gets downscaled, it's much cheaper and better than most authentics.

Agreed, the Authentics version is pretty good looking. A bit light on the articulation, bot otherwise looks pretty good. Can't find him anywhere near me though

Articulation is good, just not WFC good. Scale is off though, I hope he gets downscaled then I'll buy him. (he'll also be EVEN CHEAPER that way) I'd say this figure is a win-win.

He's pretty much an upscaled and simplified WFC Wheeljack. So if you want a downscaled version of that, just get Netflix-EarthRise-Kingdom-Legacy...etc... Wheeljack.

Overcracker wrote:

RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:

Overcracker wrote:

RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:

Overcracker wrote:

Nemesis Primal wrote:

o.supreme wrote:While we knew that the Stunticons would be completed in a 4th deluxe Wave, we didn't know who the wavemates would be ( presumably all repacks from earlier waves?) But hearing Dead End will be part of a 4th wave with Skullgrin and Point Blank , new leaks of toys coming presumably sooner than the leaks we got a little while ago about 2nd year Legacy, is kind of cool.

Of course, as we saw last year with Pipes and Slammer, last minute changes can mix things up, so we shall see.

No no, this Dead End/Pointblank/Crankcase/Skullgrin wave is Wave 3. Wave 4 is still supposed to be Breakdown and WFC repacks of Cheetor and Wheeljack, kinda like you initially said.

Do really need yet another Wheeljack? How many times has he been released now? 5? Where are other figures like Sunstreaker or Prowl for example? Why aren't they getting re-releases?

Is there anyone out there that still needs a Wheeljack and can't get one of the previous versions?

Not me. Wheeljack drew the short straw in my collection, I'm waiting till the authentic gets downscaled, it's much cheaper and better than most authentics.

Agreed, the Authentics version is pretty good looking. A bit light on the articulation, bot otherwise looks pretty good. Can't find him anywhere near me though

Articulation is good, just not WFC good. Scale is off though, I hope he gets downscaled then I'll buy him. (he'll also be EVEN CHEAPER that way) I'd say this figure is a win-win.

He's pretty much an upscaled and simplified WFC Wheeljack. So if you want a downscaled version of that, just get Netflix-EarthRise-Kingdom-Legacy...etc... Wheeljack.

I just want a cheap Wheeljack that's not crap.

RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:

Overcracker wrote:

RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:

Overcracker wrote:

RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:

Overcracker wrote:

Nemesis Primal wrote:

o.supreme wrote:While we knew that the Stunticons would be completed in a 4th deluxe Wave, we didn't know who the wavemates would be ( presumably all repacks from earlier waves?) But hearing Dead End will be part of a 4th wave with Skullgrin and Point Blank , new leaks of toys coming presumably sooner than the leaks we got a little while ago about 2nd year Legacy, is kind of cool.

Of course, as we saw last year with Pipes and Slammer, last minute changes can mix things up, so we shall see.

No no, this Dead End/Pointblank/Crankcase/Skullgrin wave is Wave 3. Wave 4 is still supposed to be Breakdown and WFC repacks of Cheetor and Wheeljack, kinda like you initially said.

Do really need yet another Wheeljack? How many times has he been released now? 5? Where are other figures like Sunstreaker or Prowl for example? Why aren't they getting re-releases?

Is there anyone out there that still needs a Wheeljack and can't get one of the previous versions?

Not me. Wheeljack drew the short straw in my collection, I'm waiting till the authentic gets downscaled, it's much cheaper and better than most authentics.

Agreed, the Authentics version is pretty good looking. A bit light on the articulation, bot otherwise looks pretty good. Can't find him anywhere near me though

Articulation is good, just not WFC good. Scale is off though, I hope he gets downscaled then I'll buy him. (he'll also be EVEN CHEAPER that way) I'd say this figure is a win-win.

He's pretty much an upscaled and simplified WFC Wheeljack. So if you want a downscaled version of that, just get Netflix-EarthRise-Kingdom-Legacy...etc... Wheeljack.

I just want a cheap Wheeljack that's not crap.

Earthrise, Kingdom, Legacy Wheeljack isn't crap...he's just overbooked.

I hope they do a Prime universe wheeljack at some point