Seibertron.com Energon Pub Forums

News Credits: 4 · by **AllNewSuperRobot** » Tue Apr 28, 2020 10:53 am

I do hope, in light of the Arcee news, the G1 MP line has started to move Forward again. As opposed to pining over Car Bots that aren't happening anytime soon, and/or Prime 4.0 & Bee 3.0. Alternatively, there is still the Insecticons or the other three four Dinobots should they want to make a legitimate effort to finish Season 2, at least.

News Credits: 585 · by **ZeroWolf** » Tue Apr 28, 2020 11:59 am

Question is, would people be happy if the quality came out like mp 51 (see figure scan photos for evidence) the mp Arcee should not have been okay'ed.

News Credits: 4 · by **AllNewSuperRobot** » Tue Apr 28, 2020 12:06 pm

Several MPs of dubious quality seem to have been okay'd by the fanbase, purely because of who they are. So I don't really think it would be an issue for some. That said, now the MP Beast Wars are a thing, post-Grimlock, I wonder if they Beasties will influence the G1 animals. Would MP Terrorsaur and Swoop be released simultaneously, sharing engineering? Or the Insecticons alongside the remaining Predacons?

Takara don't normally like to financially gamble with a one-off mold, so this might be a way to fast track these G1 characters?

News Credits: 585 · by **ZeroWolf** » Tue Apr 28, 2020 12:10 pm

Possible, though swoop has an advantage over Terrorsaur in that at least his alt mode doesn't have to be too realistic :lol:

Though we do have a few molds that, so far, are one offs (bee 2.0,Hound, Tigatron, BA, Lio Convoy, Acree) though of course let's see how that list holds up in a year or so.

News Credits: 4 · by **AllNewSuperRobot** » Tue Apr 28, 2020 12:16 pm

You say that, but all of those one-offs have retool (Goldbug) or redeco (Detritus, Nightprowler, various Lio's and all the other Fembots, respectively) potential. Even BA could ironically have that Arcee redeco, now that I think about it.

News Credits: 585 · by **ZeroWolf** » Tue Apr 28, 2020 12:54 pm

That's why I said about looking back at that list in a years time (or longer) though it does highlight the fact that, predacons aside, the last Decepticon mp was megs.

News Credits: 4 · by **AllNewSuperRobot** » Tue Apr 28, 2020 12:58 pm

ZeroWolf wrote:That's why I said about looking back at that list in a years time (or longer) though it does highlight the fact that, predacons aside, the last Decepticon mp was megs.

Three years ago!?!

This line is so poorly handled >:oP

News Credits: 20 · by **Rodimus Prime** » Tue Apr 28, 2020 12:59 pm

I said it before, I'll say it again: BW Inferno better get an MP, and soon. And if by some miracle the other Dinobots get made, I hope we get a red Swoop.

News Credits: 585 · by **ZeroWolf** » Tue Apr 28, 2020 1:06 pm

Red swoop would be the + version with the cartoon accurate being the main one unless some genius tries to shoe horn a mold where you can change the colour of it.

@allnew can you really say your suprised?

News Credits: 20 · by **Rodimus Prime** » Tue Apr 28, 2020 1:11 pm

ZeroWolf wrote:Red swoop would be the + version with the cartoon accurate being the main one

Yeah that's what I figured, but I'd be fine with it, as long as it happens.

News Credits: 21 · by **-Kanrabat-** » Tue Apr 28, 2020 1:12 pm

Star Saber sold so poorly that Victory Leo was never made?

News Credits: 585 · by **ZeroWolf** » Tue Apr 28, 2020 1:14 pm

-Kanrabat- wrote:Star Saber sold so poorly that Victory Leo was never made?

Sad but true. Though suprised that the 3p never stepped up to the plate in that case.

News Credits: 4 · by **AllNewSuperRobot** » Tue Apr 28, 2020 1:30 pm

ZeroWolf wrote:@allnew can you really say your suprised?

Not anymore, no. The last few years, both in renewing my own collecting and sourcing figures for friends, it has really opened my eyes to how weirdly HasTak run Transformers as a franchise in general.

News Credits: 1 · by **sol magnus** » Tue Apr 28, 2020 1:36 pm

Rodimus Prime wrote:
sol magnus wrote:There's nothing to concede. The designers based the scale of MP-10 on MP-9. It was a whole thing with them shaking hands with all kinds of interviews about doing the further Masterpieces starting with MP-10 in the current scale.
But I'm talking about comparing MP-09 to MP-01. If Rodimus and Optimus are to be equal, they need to be same height. Are you saying the designers stated that MP-09 was the start of the new scale? Because he does scale to MP-10 as Rodimus.

Sort of. MP-10 was the start of the new scale, but they said they wanted him to scale with MP-09. So it's a chicken and the egg thing where it wssn't the original intention but turned into it.

Also, the figure is Rodimus Convoy...how is the main mode of the figure a cop out?
Because in the figure there's no real difference between Hot Rod and Rodimus, other than a small extension of the hips and raising the shoulders. And the face change, which adds nothing to height. The only way the name works is if MP-09 was intended to be the start of the new scale.

The making him convert to Hot Rod was the cluge. They were trying to pack too much (arguably) into the figure to make it the final word on Hot Rodimus / Rodimus Convoy. They asked a lot of the designers on that one. I still want one, but he will be (and would have been if I got him back in the day) Rodimus Prime on my shelf.

News Credits: 585 · by **ZeroWolf** » Tue Apr 28, 2020 2:06 pm

Personally I think that they will make a definitive Rodimus Prime at some point, just I wouldn't bet on it being soon.

*watches as MP 53 is announced as Rodimus*

:lol:

News Credits: 1534 · by **D-Maximal_Primal** » Tue Apr 28, 2020 2:12 pm

ZeroWolf wrote:Personally I think that they will make a definitive Rodimus Prime at some point, just I wouldn't bet on it being soon.

*watches as MP 53 is announced as Rodimus*

Nah, MP-53 will either be Tarantulas or a Trainbot :lol:

News Credits: 9 · by **blackeyedprime** » Tue Apr 28, 2020 3:33 pm

ZeroWolf wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:Star Saber sold so poorly that Victory Leo was never made?

Sad but true. Though suprised that the 3p never stepped up to the plate in that case.

KFC did one KFC simba (which is why it's kinda surprising Takara didn't do one with mp ultra magnus borrowing ideas from KFC citizen stack).

News Credits: 237 · by **chuckdawg1999** » Tue Apr 28, 2020 3:39 pm

ZeroWolf wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:Star Saber sold so poorly that Victory Leo was never made?

Sad but true. Though suprised that the 3p never stepped up to the plate in that case.

That's very surprising to hear since the week it was released it was like the 3rd best selling figure in Japan work some stores selling out.

News Credits: 1 · by **Gauntlet101010** » Tue Apr 28, 2020 4:01 pm

https://tfsource.com/kfc/simba/

A 3rd Party Victory Leo was made. Maybe more than just this version.

MyFigureCollection.net collection · by **Emerje** » Tue Apr 28, 2020 4:30 pm

Sabrblade wrote:
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:I haven't actually seen MP-1 in person but, I would have been interested to see the line developed to that standard. I'm told that he is the most accurate Prime to use, should you choose to recreate that scene from The Agenda part 2.
Size-wise, yes.

Size-wise, no, unless you have that mini Transmetal Primal in the picture. It's like a 4" figure that can transform from bot to beast with a little parts forming. I got one off BBTS probably around 2001 for cheap.

-Kanrabat- wrote:Star Saber sold so poorly that Victory Leo was never made?

It was never planned to be made in the first place. At the time Star Saber was a one off that Takara Tomy didn't intend to make in the first place. It only got made because it won that MP Autobot leader poll. I don't think it sold poorly, it was actually pretty good deal for the size, but I think TT over produced it based on the poll and stores overstocked it for the same reason leading to over saturation of a character that was really only well known in Japan. If they had done a world wide poll the results would have been entirely different. I imagine we'd have Armada Optimus or Powermaster Optimus instead.

1. Star Saber - 31,2% votes
2. Micron Densetsu Convoy - 24.3% votes
3. Super Ginrai - 18.6% votes
4. Dai Atlas - 8 % votes
5. Super Fire Convoy - 4.9% votes
6. Beast Wars Primal - 4.6% votes
7. Galaxy Convoy - 2.5% votes
8. Big Convoy - 2.1% votes
9. Lio Convoy - 2.0% votes
10. Grand Convoy - 1.5% votes
11. Fortress Maximus - 0.3% votes

Star Saber doesn't have any easy ways to attach Victory Leo built into it. Not sure how "Simba" does it can't be that sturdy.

Emerje

News Credits: 3 · by **TulioDude** » Tue Apr 28, 2020 4:37 pm

chuckdawg1999 wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:Star Saber sold so poorly that Victory Leo was never made?

Sad but true. Though suprised that the 3p never stepped up to the plate in that case.

That's very surprising to hear since the week it was released it was like the 3rd best selling figure in Japan work some stores selling out.

Is there anywhere online that keeps track of things like that?I would make a lot easier to say what is popular.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:
Do you count the days that you're offline in your tally?

Yes,I may not post on here everyday.but still waiting for the HasTak reveal.

Day 119 of waiting for Transformers Armada Masterpiece news.

News Credits: 585 · by **ZeroWolf** » Tue Apr 28, 2020 4:37 pm

Quite funny looking at that poll and seeing that two of the three beast wars convoys getting Masterpiece figures.
Though there would have been no scale for Fortress to have fit in :lol: