Transformers Masterpiece: General Discussion

Feel free to discuss anything about any of the thousands of Transformer toys here. Anything from Generation 1 all the way to the soon to be released, the never to be released or the hope to be released is fair game! Want to show off your stuff? Please post your's and see others in the Transformers Collections Forum.

Re: Transformers Masterpiece: General Discussion

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Tue Apr 28, 2020 10:53 am

Motto: "Guilty or Innocent?
Always Guilty..."
Weapon: Particle Beam Cannon
I do hope, in light of the Arcee news, the G1 MP line has started to move Forward again. As opposed to pining over Car Bots that aren't happening anytime soon, and/or Prime 4.0 & Bee 3.0. Alternatively, there is still the Insecticons or the other three four Dinobots should they want to make a legitimate effort to finish Season 2, at least.
Image
User avatar
AllNewSuperRobot
Gestalt
Posts: 2542
News Credits: 4
Joined: Sat Feb 03, 2018 5:30 pm
Alt Mode: Special Beam Cannon
Strength: 8
Intelligence: 8
Speed: N/A
Endurance: 10+
Rank: 6
Courage: 10+
Firepower: ???
Skill: 9

Re: Transformers Masterpiece: General Discussion

Postby ZeroWolf » Tue Apr 28, 2020 11:59 am

Motto: "My past no longer binds my future..."
Weapon: Battle Blades
Question is, would people be happy if the quality came out like mp 51 (see figure scan photos for evidence) the mp Arcee should not have been okay'ed.
Got news for Seibertron? Share it here!
ZeroWolf
News Staff
Posts: 11014
News Credits: 585
Joined: Wed Jun 25, 2014 8:58 am
Location: North East UK

Re: Transformers Masterpiece: General Discussion

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Tue Apr 28, 2020 12:06 pm

Motto: "Guilty or Innocent?
Always Guilty..."
Weapon: Particle Beam Cannon
Several MPs of dubious quality seem to have been okay'd by the fanbase, purely because of who they are. So I don't really think it would be an issue for some. That said, now the MP Beast Wars are a thing, post-Grimlock, I wonder if they Beasties will influence the G1 animals. Would MP Terrorsaur and Swoop be released simultaneously, sharing engineering? Or the Insecticons alongside the remaining Predacons?

Takara don't normally like to financially gamble with a one-off mold, so this might be a way to fast track these G1 characters?
Image
User avatar
AllNewSuperRobot
Gestalt
Posts: 2542
News Credits: 4
Joined: Sat Feb 03, 2018 5:30 pm
Alt Mode: Special Beam Cannon
Strength: 8
Intelligence: 8
Speed: N/A
Endurance: 10+
Rank: 6
Courage: 10+
Firepower: ???
Skill: 9

Re: Transformers Masterpiece: General Discussion

Postby ZeroWolf » Tue Apr 28, 2020 12:10 pm

Motto: "My past no longer binds my future..."
Weapon: Battle Blades
Possible, though swoop has an advantage over Terrorsaur in that at least his alt mode doesn't have to be too realistic :lol:

Though we do have a few molds that, so far, are one offs (bee 2.0,Hound, Tigatron, BA, Lio Convoy, Acree) though of course let's see how that list holds up in a year or so.
Got news for Seibertron? Share it here!
ZeroWolf
News Staff
Posts: 11014
News Credits: 585
Joined: Wed Jun 25, 2014 8:58 am
Location: North East UK

Re: Transformers Masterpiece: General Discussion

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Tue Apr 28, 2020 12:16 pm

Motto: "Guilty or Innocent?
Always Guilty..."
Weapon: Particle Beam Cannon
You say that, but all of those one-offs have retool (Goldbug) or redeco (Detritus, Nightprowler, various Lio's and all the other Fembots, respectively) potential. Even BA could ironically have that Arcee redeco, now that I think about it.
Image
User avatar
AllNewSuperRobot
Gestalt
Posts: 2542
News Credits: 4
Joined: Sat Feb 03, 2018 5:30 pm
Alt Mode: Special Beam Cannon
Strength: 8
Intelligence: 8
Speed: N/A
Endurance: 10+
Rank: 6
Courage: 10+
Firepower: ???
Skill: 9

Re: Transformers Masterpiece: General Discussion

Postby ZeroWolf » Tue Apr 28, 2020 12:54 pm

Motto: "My past no longer binds my future..."
Weapon: Battle Blades
That's why I said about looking back at that list in a years time (or longer) though it does highlight the fact that, predacons aside, the last Decepticon mp was megs.
Got news for Seibertron? Share it here!
ZeroWolf
News Staff
Posts: 11014
News Credits: 585
Joined: Wed Jun 25, 2014 8:58 am
Location: North East UK

Re: Transformers Masterpiece: General Discussion

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Tue Apr 28, 2020 12:58 pm

Motto: "Guilty or Innocent?
Always Guilty..."
Weapon: Particle Beam Cannon
ZeroWolf wrote:That's why I said about looking back at that list in a years time (or longer) though it does highlight the fact that, predacons aside, the last Decepticon mp was megs.


:shock: Three years ago!?!

This line is so poorly handled >:oP
Image
User avatar
AllNewSuperRobot
Gestalt
Posts: 2542
News Credits: 4
Joined: Sat Feb 03, 2018 5:30 pm
Alt Mode: Special Beam Cannon
Strength: 8
Intelligence: 8
Speed: N/A
Endurance: 10+
Rank: 6
Courage: 10+
Firepower: ???
Skill: 9

Re: Transformers Masterpiece: General Discussion

Postby Rodimus Prime » Tue Apr 28, 2020 12:59 pm

Motto: "A knife is simple, using it ain't."
I said it before, I'll say it again: BW Inferno better get an MP, and soon. And if by some miracle the other Dinobots get made, I hope we get a red Swoop.
Burn wrote:Alpha Bravo...He's a helicopter in a team of jets. That's just dumb.
Image
.Science: like magic, but real.
My BST thread: for-sale-trade-various-studio-series-figures--p2068462.php#p2068462
I have ER Prime and Doubledealer for sale at cost plus shipping. PM me if interested.
Rodimus Prime
Site Moderator
Posts: 11792
News Credits: 20
Joined: Sat Sep 28, 2002 8:31 pm

Re: Transformers Masterpiece: General Discussion

Postby ZeroWolf » Tue Apr 28, 2020 1:06 pm

Motto: "My past no longer binds my future..."
Weapon: Battle Blades
Red swoop would be the + version with the cartoon accurate being the main one unless some genius tries to shoe horn a mold where you can change the colour of it.

@allnew can you really say your suprised?
Got news for Seibertron? Share it here!
ZeroWolf
News Staff
Posts: 11014
News Credits: 585
Joined: Wed Jun 25, 2014 8:58 am
Location: North East UK

Re: Transformers Masterpiece: General Discussion

Postby Rodimus Prime » Tue Apr 28, 2020 1:11 pm

Motto: "A knife is simple, using it ain't."
ZeroWolf wrote:Red swoop would be the + version with the cartoon accurate being the main one
Yeah that's what I figured, but I'd be fine with it, as long as it happens.
Burn wrote:Alpha Bravo...He's a helicopter in a team of jets. That's just dumb.
Image
.Science: like magic, but real.
My BST thread: for-sale-trade-various-studio-series-figures--p2068462.php#p2068462
I have ER Prime and Doubledealer for sale at cost plus shipping. PM me if interested.
Rodimus Prime
Site Moderator
Posts: 11792
News Credits: 20
Joined: Sat Sep 28, 2002 8:31 pm

Re: Transformers Masterpiece: General Discussion

Postby -Kanrabat- » Tue Apr 28, 2020 1:12 pm

Motto: "Love it? GET IT!
It's that simple."
Weapon: Mace
Star Saber sold so poorly that Victory Leo was never made?
"Peace through tyranny!"
Image
"FREEDOM is the right of all sentient beings."
User avatar
-Kanrabat-
God Of Transformers
Posts: 10907
News Credits: 21
Joined: Sun Dec 12, 2010 3:19 pm
Location: Canada, province of Québec
Buy from -Kanrabat- on eBay
Strength: N/A
Intelligence: N/A
Speed: N/A
Endurance: N/A
Rank: Infinity
Courage: N/A
Firepower: N/A
Skill: N/A

Re: Transformers Masterpiece: General Discussion

Postby ZeroWolf » Tue Apr 28, 2020 1:14 pm

Motto: "My past no longer binds my future..."
Weapon: Battle Blades
-Kanrabat- wrote:Star Saber sold so poorly that Victory Leo was never made?

Sad but true. Though suprised that the 3p never stepped up to the plate in that case.
Got news for Seibertron? Share it here!
ZeroWolf
News Staff
Posts: 11014
News Credits: 585
Joined: Wed Jun 25, 2014 8:58 am
Location: North East UK

Re: Transformers Masterpiece: General Discussion

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Tue Apr 28, 2020 1:30 pm

Motto: "Guilty or Innocent?
Always Guilty..."
Weapon: Particle Beam Cannon
ZeroWolf wrote:@allnew can you really say your suprised?


Not anymore, no. The last few years, both in renewing my own collecting and sourcing figures for friends, it has really opened my eyes to how weirdly HasTak run Transformers as a franchise in general.
Image
User avatar
AllNewSuperRobot
Gestalt
Posts: 2542
News Credits: 4
Joined: Sat Feb 03, 2018 5:30 pm
Alt Mode: Special Beam Cannon
Strength: 8
Intelligence: 8
Speed: N/A
Endurance: 10+
Rank: 6
Courage: 10+
Firepower: ???
Skill: 9

Re: Transformers Masterpiece: General Discussion

Postby sol magnus » Tue Apr 28, 2020 1:36 pm

Motto: "This is the most beautiful thing in the entire universe. Ok, give me the bomb."
Weapon: Laser Rifle
Rodimus Prime wrote:
sol magnus wrote:There's nothing to concede. The designers based the scale of MP-10 on MP-9. It was a whole thing with them shaking hands with all kinds of interviews about doing the further Masterpieces starting with MP-10 in the current scale.
But I'm talking about comparing MP-09 to MP-01. If Rodimus and Optimus are to be equal, they need to be same height. Are you saying the designers stated that MP-09 was the start of the new scale? Because he does scale to MP-10 as Rodimus.


Sort of. MP-10 was the start of the new scale, but they said they wanted him to scale with MP-09. So it's a chicken and the egg thing where it wssn't the original intention but turned into it.

Also, the figure is Rodimus Convoy...how is the main mode of the figure a cop out?
Because in the figure there's no real difference between Hot Rod and Rodimus, other than a small extension of the hips and raising the shoulders. And the face change, which adds nothing to height. The only way the name works is if MP-09 was intended to be the start of the new scale.

The making him convert to Hot Rod was the cluge. They were trying to pack too much (arguably) into the figure to make it the final word on Hot Rodimus / Rodimus Convoy. They asked a lot of the designers on that one. I still want one, but he will be (and would have been if I got him back in the day) Rodimus Prime on my shelf.
'Til All Are One.
User avatar
sol magnus
Gestalt Team Leader
Posts: 992
News Credits: 1
Joined: Tue Mar 30, 2010 10:39 am
Strength: 10
Intelligence: 9
Speed: 6
Endurance: 9
Rank: 9
Courage: 10
Firepower: 7
Skill: 9

Re: Transformers Masterpiece: General Discussion

Postby ZeroWolf » Tue Apr 28, 2020 2:06 pm

Motto: "My past no longer binds my future..."
Weapon: Battle Blades
Personally I think that they will make a definitive Rodimus Prime at some point, just I wouldn't bet on it being soon.

*watches as MP 53 is announced as Rodimus*

:lol:
Got news for Seibertron? Share it here!
ZeroWolf
News Staff
Posts: 11014
News Credits: 585
Joined: Wed Jun 25, 2014 8:58 am
Location: North East UK

Re: Transformers Masterpiece: General Discussion

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Tue Apr 28, 2020 2:12 pm

Motto: "There are no impossibilities in the multiverse, just small minds unable to comprehend the possibilities"
Weapon: Armor Axe
ZeroWolf wrote:Personally I think that they will make a definitive Rodimus Prime at some point, just I wouldn't bet on it being soon.

*watches as MP 53 is announced as Rodimus*

:lol:

Nah, MP-53 will either be Tarantulas or a Trainbot :lol:
Have Transformers News? Contact us HERE!
I'm looking for parts, Help Me Out Please!
Wanna talk? Or Rollerblade? Click below and head on over to the D-Max Den!!Image
User avatar
D-Maximal_Primal
News Admin
Posts: 19152
News Credits: 1534
Joined: Thu Feb 19, 2015 5:53 pm
Location: Western Pennsylvania
Buy from D-Maximal_Primal on eBay
Alt Mode: Transmetal Indominus Rex
Strength: 5
Intelligence: 9
Speed: 6
Endurance: 6
Rank: 8
Courage: 10
Firepower: 8
Skill: 8

Re: Transformers Masterpiece: General Discussion

Postby blackeyedprime » Tue Apr 28, 2020 3:33 pm

Motto: "Me Grimlock, you slag."
Weapon: Particle Beam Cannon
ZeroWolf wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:Star Saber sold so poorly that Victory Leo was never made?

Sad but true. Though suprised that the 3p never stepped up to the plate in that case.


KFC did one KFC simba (which is why it's kinda surprising Takara didn't do one with mp ultra magnus borrowing ideas from KFC citizen stack).
blackeyedprime
Brainmaster
Posts: 1286
News Credits: 9
Joined: Thu Jun 29, 2017 5:14 am
Alt Mode: a spoon
Strength: 3
Intelligence: 6
Speed: 5
Endurance: 8
Courage: 9
Firepower: 2
Skill: 6

Re: Transformers Masterpiece: General Discussion

Postby chuckdawg1999 » Tue Apr 28, 2020 3:39 pm

Motto: "The man, the myth, the legend... yeah right."
Weapon: Saber Blade
ZeroWolf wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:Star Saber sold so poorly that Victory Leo was never made?

Sad but true. Though suprised that the 3p never stepped up to the plate in that case.


That's very surprising to hear since the week it was released it was like the 3rd best selling figure in Japan work some stores selling out.
Image
User avatar
chuckdawg1999
Guardian Of Seibertron
Posts: 6081
News Credits: 237
Joined: Wed May 26, 2004 3:51 pm
Location: New York
Watch chuckdawg1999 on YouTube
Buy from chuckdawg1999 on eBay
Strength: 10
Intelligence: 10
Speed: 10
Endurance: 10
Rank: 10
Courage: 10
Firepower: 10
Skill: 10

Re: Transformers Masterpiece: General Discussion

Postby Gauntlet101010 » Tue Apr 28, 2020 4:01 pm

https://tfsource.com/kfc/simba/

A 3rd Party Victory Leo was made. Maybe more than just this version.
Gauntlet101010
Faction Commander
Posts: 4614
News Credits: 1
Joined: Sat Jan 01, 2005 8:13 pm

Re: Transformers Masterpiece: General Discussion

Postby Emerje » Tue Apr 28, 2020 4:30 pm

Motto: "*Shrug*"
Weapon: Saw-Edged Pincer
Sabrblade wrote:
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:I haven't actually seen MP-1 in person but, I would have been interested to see the line developed to that standard. I'm told that he is the most accurate Prime to use, should you choose to recreate that scene from The Agenda part 2.
Size-wise, yes.

Image

Size-wise, no, unless you have that mini Transmetal Primal in the picture. It's like a 4" figure that can transform from bot to beast with a little parts forming. I got one off BBTS probably around 2001 for cheap.

-Kanrabat- wrote:Star Saber sold so poorly that Victory Leo was never made?

It was never planned to be made in the first place. At the time Star Saber was a one off that Takara Tomy didn't intend to make in the first place. It only got made because it won that MP Autobot leader poll. I don't think it sold poorly, it was actually pretty good deal for the size, but I think TT over produced it based on the poll and stores overstocked it for the same reason leading to over saturation of a character that was really only well known in Japan. If they had done a world wide poll the results would have been entirely different. I imagine we'd have Armada Optimus or Powermaster Optimus instead.

1. Star Saber - 31,2% votes
2. Micron Densetsu Convoy - 24.3% votes
3. Super Ginrai - 18.6% votes
4. Dai Atlas - 8 % votes
5. Super Fire Convoy - 4.9% votes
6. Beast Wars Primal - 4.6% votes
7. Galaxy Convoy - 2.5% votes
8. Big Convoy - 2.1% votes
9. Lio Convoy - 2.0% votes
10. Grand Convoy - 1.5% votes
11. Fortress Maximus - 0.3% votes

Star Saber doesn't have any easy ways to attach Victory Leo built into it. Not sure how "Simba" does it can't be that sturdy.

Emerje
User avatar
Emerje
News Staff
Posts: 5555
News Credits: 140
Joined: Tue Aug 13, 2013 9:15 am
Location: Maine
Alt Mode: Lobster Moose
Strength: 9
Intelligence: 7
Speed: 4
Endurance: 8
Rank: 6
Courage: 10
Firepower: 3
Skill: 6

Re: Transformers Masterpiece: General Discussion

Postby TulioDude » Tue Apr 28, 2020 4:37 pm

Motto: "Never doubt the awesomess."
Weapon: Energo-Sword
chuckdawg1999 wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:Star Saber sold so poorly that Victory Leo was never made?

Sad but true. Though suprised that the 3p never stepped up to the plate in that case.


That's very surprising to hear since the week it was released it was like the 3rd best selling figure in Japan work some stores selling out.


Is there anywhere online that keeps track of things like that?I would make a lot easier to say what is popular.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:
Do you count the days that you're offline in your tally?

Yes,I may not post on here everyday.but still waiting for the HasTak reveal.

Day 119 of waiting for Transformers Armada Masterpiece news.
Silverwing wrote:Also, I feel compelled to give the obligatory: :michaelbay: :michaelbay: :michaelbay: :michaelbay: :michaelbay: :michaelbay: :michaelbay: :michaelbay: :michaelbay: :michaelbay:
One for each year of the Movieverse's decade strong tenure. Here's to a few more explosive years!


Here is my DeviantArt page and my Tumblr blog.
User avatar
TulioDude
Godmaster
Posts: 1888
News Credits: 3
Joined: Sat May 09, 2009 6:20 pm
Strength: 9
Intelligence: 9
Speed: 5
Endurance: 9
Rank: 3
Courage: 8
Firepower: 8
Skill: 7

Re: Transformers Masterpiece: General Discussion

Postby ZeroWolf » Tue Apr 28, 2020 4:37 pm

Motto: "My past no longer binds my future..."
Weapon: Battle Blades
Quite funny looking at that poll and seeing that two of the three beast wars convoys getting Masterpiece figures.
Though there would have been no scale for Fortress to have fit in :lol:I unless it was just the Fortress component :-?
Got news for Seibertron? Share it here!
ZeroWolf
News Staff
Posts: 11014
News Credits: 585
Joined: Wed Jun 25, 2014 8:58 am
Location: North East UK

Re: Transformers Masterpiece: General Discussion

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Tue Apr 28, 2020 4:42 pm

Motto: "There are no impossibilities in the multiverse, just small minds unable to comprehend the possibilities"
Weapon: Armor Axe
I'm actually pleased Big Convoy beat Lio Convoy
Have Transformers News? Contact us HERE!
I'm looking for parts, Help Me Out Please!
Wanna talk? Or Rollerblade? Click below and head on over to the D-Max Den!!Image
User avatar
D-Maximal_Primal
News Admin
Posts: 19152
News Credits: 1534
Joined: Thu Feb 19, 2015 5:53 pm
Location: Western Pennsylvania
Buy from D-Maximal_Primal on eBay
Alt Mode: Transmetal Indominus Rex
Strength: 5
Intelligence: 9
Speed: 6
Endurance: 6
Rank: 8
Courage: 10
Firepower: 8
Skill: 8

Re: Transformers Masterpiece: General Discussion

Postby Sabrblade » Tue Apr 28, 2020 4:44 pm

Motto: "It's not done right if it's not done well."
Weapon: Saber Blade
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:I'm actually pleased Big Convoy beat Lio Convoy
He is the more interesting of the two. At least, in theory.
"When there's gold feathers, punch behind you!!"

Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
User avatar
Sabrblade
God Of Transformers
Posts: 33294
News Credits: 335
Joined: Thu Dec 06, 2007 7:22 pm
Location: Tampa, FL
Strength: 7
Intelligence: 10
Speed: 7
Endurance: 6
Rank: 9
Courage: 8
Firepower: 10
Skill: 9

Re: Transformers Masterpiece: General Discussion

Postby -Kanrabat- » Tue Apr 28, 2020 5:30 pm

Motto: "Love it? GET IT!
It's that simple."
Weapon: Mace
HASLAB Unicron would be put to shame if they'd ever do a MP Fortmax.
"Peace through tyranny!"
Image
"FREEDOM is the right of all sentient beings."
User avatar
-Kanrabat-
God Of Transformers
Posts: 10907
News Credits: 21
Joined: Sun Dec 12, 2010 3:19 pm
Location: Canada, province of Québec
Buy from -Kanrabat- on eBay
Strength: N/A
Intelligence: N/A
Speed: N/A
Endurance: N/A
Rank: Infinity
Courage: N/A
Firepower: N/A
Skill: N/A

PreviousNext

Return to Transformers Toys Discussion

Featured Products on Amazon.com

Buy "Transformers Authentics Optimus Prime" on AMAZON
Buy "Transformers Deluxe 20 Mercenary Action Figure" on AMAZON
Buy "Transformers Generations Power of The Primes Deluxe Class Autobot Moonracer" on AMAZON
Buy "Transformers Generations Power of the Primes Deluxe Class Autobot Novastar" on AMAZON
Buy "Transformers: Generations Power of The Primes Solus Prime Prime Master" on AMAZON
Buy "Transformers: Generations Power of The Primes Voyager Class Grimlock" on AMAZON
Buy "Transformers Generations Power of The Primes Deluxe Class Terrorcon Blot" on AMAZON
Buy "Transformers Studio Series 10 Deluxe Class Movie 1 Autobot Jazz" on AMAZON
Buy "Transformers: The Last Knight Mega 1-Step Turbo Changer Dragonstorm" on AMAZON
Buy "Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Series PK Bruticus Action Figure	B3899" on AMAZON
Buy "Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Legends Class Wreck-Gar" on AMAZON
Buy "Transformers Generations Combiner Wars - MEGATRON Figure" on AMAZON
Transformers Podcast: Twincast / Podcast #255 - Judgment Day
Twincast / Podcast #255:
"Judgment Day"
MP3 · iTunes · RSS · View · Discuss · Ask
Posted: Sunday, July 19th, 2020

New Items on eBay

Buy "Transformers Revenge of the Fallen Dead End Complete Deluxe ROTF" on EBAY
Buy "Transformers Studio Series Lot Of 3 Decepticons Lockdown KSI Boss Crowbar" on EBAY
Buy "Transformers Studio Series 41 CONSTRUCTICON SCRAPMETAL Deluxe MISB Devastator" on EBAY
Buy "TRANSFORMERS Generation 2 #1 Marvel  IDW Headmasters Optimus Prime Bumblebee lot" on EBAY
Buy "Hasbro Transformers Generations Thrilling 30 Titan Class Metroplex - MISB" on EBAY
Buy "Transformers Bumblebee Nitro Series Dropkick Energon Igniters New by Hasbro" on EBAY
Buy "Hasbro Transformers Generations - Fall of Cybertron - Voyager: Grimlock" on EBAY
Buy "Transformers Bumblebee Movie Shatter Action Figure (Read description)" on EBAY