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Re: Transformers Masterpiece: General Discussion

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Sun Feb 11, 2018 12:21 pm

So how far down the line of G1 do we think they will take the MP line? Obviously the Takara series and the Targetmasters have a foot in the door already, so does that mean Headmasters, Powermasters, Actionmasters, Pretenders?

Personally I do hope the MP Beast Wars ends before Beast Machines. Those designs didn't even look right in the show, let alone the toy line.
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece: General Discussion

Postby Sabrblade » Sun Feb 11, 2018 1:57 pm

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AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Personally I do hope the MP Beast Wars ends before Beast Machines. Those designs didn't even look right in the show, let alone the toy line.
If anything, Masterpiece would be the line with the level of engineering needed to finally give us Beast Machines toys at a show-accurate level.
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece: General Discussion

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Sun Feb 11, 2018 2:02 pm

Sabrblade wrote:
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Personally I do hope the MP Beast Wars ends before Beast Machines. Those designs didn't even look right in the show, let alone the toy line.
If anything, Masterpiece would be the line with the level of engineering needed to finally give us Beast Machines toys at a show-accurate level.


But the designs were so ugly. The Vehicons were pretty good though. Through them it was nice to see a G1-like aesthetic for the first time in CG. I actually had the Ultra Jetstorm and the regular version, which I really liked. Although less so when they revealed it was actually Silverbolt, one of my least favourite BW characters ever.
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece: General Discussion

Postby Sabrblade » Sun Feb 11, 2018 2:10 pm

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AllNewSuperRobot wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Personally I do hope the MP Beast Wars ends before Beast Machines. Those designs didn't even look right in the show, let alone the toy line.
If anything, Masterpiece would be the line with the level of engineering needed to finally give us Beast Machines toys at a show-accurate level.


But the designs were so ugly.
That's what made them cool! They were so alien and otherworldly in their hideousness that they were all practically cosmic monster dudes. 8-)
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece: General Discussion

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Sun Feb 11, 2018 2:19 pm

Sabrblade wrote:That's what made them cool! They were so alien and otherworldly in their hideousness that they were all practically cosmic monster dudes. 8-)



As a fan of Movie Monsters and Monstrous designs in general, I still didn't like any of the Beast Machines Maximals. Especially Rattrap!

That said, although I purchased several Vehicons, I did buy one Maximal:

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A design I thought was really good and understated. Obviously completely unused in the show. I think with a repaint, he would have made a good BM Ultra Magnus alternate to Optimus Primal.
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece: General Discussion

Postby Black Hat » Sun Feb 11, 2018 2:36 pm

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I wouldn't mind an MP BM Blackarachnia, simply because the scale would be such that she could be an absolutely massive Australia-tier spider for basically any collection.
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece: General Discussion

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Sun Feb 11, 2018 2:39 pm

Black Hat wrote:I wouldn't mind an MP BM Blackarachnia, simply because the scale would be such that she could be an absolutely massive Australia-tier spider for basically any collection.


I'm looking forward to MP default Tarantulas and Blackarachnia in that respect. Their beast modes should look fantastic in MP form.
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece: General Discussion

Postby Emerje » Sun Feb 11, 2018 9:26 pm

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Black Hat wrote:I wouldn't mind an MP BM Blackarachnia, simply because the scale would be such that she could be an absolutely massive Australia-tier spider for basically any collection.

We've already got something like that.

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TM2 Mega Blackarachnia turns into a massive spider. Sure, she no longer looks like a real spider, but I suppose BM Blackarachnia in the cartoon only looks real in the dark. Still, the TM2 version still holds up really well compared to the cartoon and doesn't suffer from obtrusive gimmicks like some did. I doubt a BW MP regular version would be any bigger.

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Re: Transformers Masterpiece: General Discussion

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Mon Feb 12, 2018 9:49 am

Oh no, regular MP Blackarachnia should be tiny...

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But her Beast Mode should look on point. Just like MP Tarantulas.
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece: General Discussion

Postby william-james88 » Mon Feb 12, 2018 9:57 am

I just want to know how they will make MP Terrorsaur.
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece: General Discussion

Postby Sabrblade » Mon Feb 12, 2018 10:54 am

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william-james88 wrote:I just want to know how they will make MP Terrorsaur.

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Re: Transformers Masterpiece: General Discussion

Postby Black Hat » Mon Feb 12, 2018 11:54 am

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Emerje wrote:
Black Hat wrote:I wouldn't mind an MP BM Blackarachnia, simply because the scale would be such that she could be an absolutely massive Australia-tier spider for basically any collection.

We've already got something like that.

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TM2 Mega Blackarachnia turns into a massive spider. Sure, she no longer looks like a real spider, but I suppose BM Blackarachnia in the cartoon only looks real in the dark. Still, the TM2 version still holds up really well compared to the cartoon and doesn't suffer from obtrusive gimmicks like some did. I doubt a BW MP regular version would be any bigger.

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Yeah, BW Blackarachnia wouldn't be that big. I'd still buy her though because she's my favourite character, and also giant bugs look better next to vehicles than giant gorillas.

However, a Beast MACHINES Blackarachnia MP would be colossal.
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She was the biggest Maximal in the show, with her spider mode's leg span being able to contain all the other "starting" Maximals within it. Had the Beast Machines toyline not been given such bizarre scaling, she would have been the ideal candidate for the Supreme pricepoint (that oddly went to Cheetor). Sure she isn't particularly bulky, but her actual size due to those enormous multi-jointed legs and fairly voluptuous spider body (never thought I'd be calling a spider voluptuous) would mean that she'd have a hell of a shelf footprint.

Now it's unlikely to happen because A: BM wouldn't sell very well (especially given the cost of manufacture), B: she'd be nigh-on impossible to engineer to be even remotely show accurate in both modes, and C: Even if Takara made a transformable BM Blackarachnia that didn't self-destruct on contact due to all the micro hinges, she'd be impossible to stand up in robot mode unless they gave her a display stand.

I just want my Supreme-sized spider to frighten guests with though, I'll be honest.
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece: General Discussion

Postby Sabrblade » Mon Feb 12, 2018 12:06 pm

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Black Hat wrote:She was the biggest Maximal in the show,
Not quite. In Beast Mode her legs were enormous, but her body was of similar mass to Rattrap and Nightscream. In robot mode, she was tall, but still shorter than both Cheetor and Silverbolt, and less massive overall than Optimus Primal. In fact, Botanica was also of similar height and mass to her robot mode.
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece: General Discussion

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Mon Feb 12, 2018 3:33 pm

As an aside, I never liked TM2 Blackarachnia. It was so underutilized it was pointless to even use the design in the show. Such wasted potential, although that was a running theme with Season 3 characters... :roll:
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece: General Discussion

Postby shajaki » Thu Feb 15, 2018 10:06 pm

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Holy crap! Guess what I just realized is out at the end of this month?!

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Re: Transformers Masterpiece: General Discussion

Postby wilcosu35 » Thu Feb 15, 2018 10:08 pm

I can only see the word Image
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece: General Discussion

Postby shajaki » Thu Feb 15, 2018 10:12 pm

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wilcosu35 wrote:I can only see the word Image
Maybe this'll work for you?

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Re: Transformers Masterpiece: General Discussion

Postby wilcosu35 » Thu Feb 15, 2018 10:14 pm

That one does.
It's an interesting version, but nothing i'll get
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece: General Discussion

Postby Sabrblade » Thu Feb 15, 2018 10:33 pm

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A part of me still wishes that that had been a Hess truck instead of a 7-Eleven truck.
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Transformers Masterpiece MP17+ Prowl Revealed!

Postby Bounti76 » Fri Feb 16, 2018 12:33 am

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Coming to us from Dengeki Hobby, we have news of a new Transformers Masterpiece release from Takara Tomy! Due to be released in late September exclusively via Takara Tomy Mall, and continuing on with animation accurate decos seen on Sideswipe (MP-12+) and Alert (MP-14+), we now present to you.....MP-17+, Masterpiece Prowl, in his animation accurate color scheme. As is immediately noticeable, his windows are now done up in a bright blue color to reflect how they appeared in the G1 cartoon. Additional deco changes include his rifle being cast (or possibly painted) in all white, instead of MP-17's toy accurate silver, and the removal of the "Highway Patrol" wording from his doors. This release includes his toy accurate missile launchers, which can be deployed in car mode, indicating that some slight remolding has taken place as well as changing his colors. What other changes from the original can you spot?

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Re: Transformers Masterpiece: General Discussion

Postby Emerje » Fri Feb 16, 2018 12:49 am

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Man, this Prowl looks really nice, I love the tinted windows and bright white. Really sucks that this one is an exclusive, but Sideswipe that you have to look closely at to notice the changes was sold at retail. I might get it, really depends on how September looks, but for now it's possible.

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Re: Transformers Masterpiece: General Discussion

Postby DecepticonFinishline » Fri Feb 16, 2018 1:02 am

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Could the original MP Prowl not use his launchers in alt mode? The only MP Datsun I have at this point is SILVERstreak, and he definitely could...
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece: General Discussion

Postby SpikeyTigertron » Fri Feb 16, 2018 1:08 am

I'll have to compare when I get home.... But something really pops about that robot mode. Is the bumper picked out in grey (as opposed to black) I think the bumper lights in red are new. I'm on the fence with all the blue window tinting through.

I also feel as much as the robot mode looks more alive... the vehicle mode is much more bland w/o the lettering. I'm so conflicted.
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece: General Discussion

Postby Bounti76 » Fri Feb 16, 2018 1:09 am

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DecepticonFinishline wrote:Could the original MP Prowl not use his launchers in alt mode? The only MP Datsun I have at this point is SILVERstreak, and he definitely could...


Maybe they could? Prowl's original release didn't include launchers that I can remember. I haven't been able to play with the Datsun mold in a couple of years, since I moved and haven't ever unpacked them from their boxes.
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece: General Discussion

Postby SpikeyTigertron » Fri Feb 16, 2018 1:12 am

If Silverstreak+ and Smokescreen+ (somehow?!) come out I quit lol.

The original Lambo and Datsun mold I got way too many of to be realistically investing in the + line. Even if I did like the change to Red Alert.
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