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Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-38 Beast Wars Convoy (Supreme Commander Version)

Postby Sabrblade » Tue Jan 10, 2017 9:41 pm

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On the other hand, the ID number might not be final. MP-32 was originally given the number MP-31 in a magazine, before Delta Magnus was confirmed to have that number.
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-38 Beast Wars Convoy (Supreme Commander Version)

Postby Seibertron » Tue Jan 10, 2017 9:48 pm

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Maybe it'll be a more toy accurate head. I loved the look of that original optimus primal toy head, with the rotating beast mask. Very unique and hasn't been done since.
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-38 Beast Wars Convoy (Supreme Commander Version)

Postby ScottyP » Wed Jan 11, 2017 10:58 pm

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Seibertron wrote:Why would this get a new number instead of a sub number in the series?
They've shifted away from that habit outside of MP-10 and 11 which have a laugh-o-rama level of variations so no sense stopping now. Heck, 15-38 has all of five 'sub-numbered' toys so far?
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-38 Beast Wars Convoy (Supreme Commander Version)

Postby sol magnus » Wed Jan 11, 2017 11:12 pm

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ScottyP wrote:
Seibertron wrote:Why would this get a new number instead of a sub number in the series?
They've shifted away from that habit outside of MP-10 and 11 which have a laugh-o-rama level of variations so no sense stopping now. Heck, 15-38 has all of five 'sub-numbered' toys so far?

THere's at least eight not counting MP-10 and MP-11. G2 Sideswipe and Tigertrack, Red Alert more cartoon accurate and Clampdown, Soundblaster, Silverstreak and Bluestreak, Red Boby Bumblebee and G2 Bumblebee. The last one released not a seeker was Red Alert in 2016.

This one seems like it should be MP-32S or something assuming it is the same character, but since there are no pictures it is hard to say why this gets it's own numerical entry. As we all know, though, none of it is consistent as they pick and choose what gets it's own number not necessarily based on whether it is a different character or not. MP11 ad nauseum are all different characters. Looking at it now, and including MP-10, each of them have a character that is not the base character - except Bumblebee.

I give up. (I also forgot MP-25L)
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-38 Beast Wars Convoy (Supreme Commander Version)

Postby Sabrblade » Wed Jan 11, 2017 11:20 pm

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ScottyP wrote:
Seibertron wrote:Why would this get a new number instead of a sub number in the series?
They've shifted away from that habit outside of MP-10 and 11 which have a laugh-o-rama level of variations so no sense stopping now. Heck, 15-38 has all of five 'sub-numbered' toys so far?
Ever since the new starting point of the line with MP-10 and MP-11, none of the mass retail MPs have been same-character mold reuses. Every figure from that point onward that received a new number has been a mass retail release and either a new mold, a different character, or both. All of the same-character mold reuses have been exclusives with lettered ID numbers (other lettered-ID-numbered MPs that were different characters have also been exclusives).
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-38 Beast Wars Convoy (Supreme Commander Version)

Postby JelZe GoldRabbit » Wed Jan 11, 2017 11:23 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:
ScottyP wrote:
Seibertron wrote:Why would this get a new number instead of a sub number in the series?
They've shifted away from that habit outside of MP-10 and 11 which have a laugh-o-rama level of variations so no sense stopping now. Heck, 15-38 has all of five 'sub-numbered' toys so far?
Ever since the new starting point of the line with MP-10 and MP-11, none of the mass retail MPs have been same-character mold reuses. Every figure from that point onward that received a new number has been a mass retail release and either a new mold, a different character, or both. All of the same-character mold reuses have been exclusives with lettered ID numbers (other lettered-ID-numbered MPs that were different characters have also been exclusives).


Ok, and how many of those new characters have been straight redecos, not counting the cassettes? I'm talking about the main line, without the sub-numbering btw.
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-38 Beast Wars Convoy (Supreme Commander Version)

Postby Sabrblade » Wed Jan 11, 2017 11:33 pm

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JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
ScottyP wrote:
Seibertron wrote:Why would this get a new number instead of a sub number in the series?
They've shifted away from that habit outside of MP-10 and 11 which have a laugh-o-rama level of variations so no sense stopping now. Heck, 15-38 has all of five 'sub-numbered' toys so far?
Ever since the new starting point of the line with MP-10 and MP-11, none of the mass retail MPs have been same-character mold reuses. Every figure from that point onward that received a new number has been a mass retail release and either a new mold, a different character, or both. All of the same-character mold reuses have been exclusives with lettered ID numbers (other lettered-ID-numbered MPs that were different characters have also been exclusives).


Ok, and how many of those new characters have been straight redecos, not counting the cassettes? I'm talking about the main line, without the sub-numbering btw.
Any of their straight redecoed versions that were still the same character have been exclusives with lettered ID numbers released outside of the mass retail main line. That's why this new number is baffling if the Legendary Supreme Commander version is gonna end up being the exact same character with the exact same mold (straight redeco or retool, regardless).
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-38 Beast Wars Convoy (Supreme Commander Version)

Postby Sabrblade » Thu Jan 12, 2017 10:41 am

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Toy/Beast Wars Second movie colors it is! (which really begs the question of why this gets a new number and not just a letter)

Plus a brand new skull flail (DIFFERENT from the die-cast one), a Double Blade, a weapon rack for attaching the Double Blade to the figure in either mode, and a Beast Mask based on the original toy's Mutant Head.

http://hobby.dengeki.com/news/320287/

MP-38 Convoy (Beast Wars) Densetsu no Sōshireikan Ver. (or Legendary Supreme Commander Ver.)

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Images for Toy Accurate Redeco Masterpiece MP-38 Beast Wars Convoy

Postby william-james88 » Thu Jan 12, 2017 11:02 am

You all ready to feel retro jipped? Thanks to Dengeki Hobby, we finally know what MP-38 Beast Wars Convoy (Supreme Commander Version) is and looks like. It turns out he is a gorgeous toy based redeco of Masterpiece Optimus Primal. Seriously, words cannot give these picures credit, they must be seen. While the beast mode might suffer simply because we are not used to seeing this colour on that show accurate beast mode sculpt, it makes all the exposed kibble a lot more tolerable and thematic. This also gives hope to Shockwave fans that Takara is willing to give toy specific decos. Also it now removes all logic from the MP numbering since this is the same character. It includes new accessories that are mainly callbacks to his original toy such as a brand new skull flail, a Double Blade, a weapon rack for attaching the Double Blade to the figure in either mode, and a Beast Mask based on the original toy's Mutant Head. That extra accessory to hold the two swords in either mode will make use of the mysterious port on his back meaning that the mold was designed to interact with this extra accessory all along. This deco does have a fictional connection since this is how Beast Convoy looked like in the Beast Wars II movie.

The figure's MSRP is 12960 Yen ($113,64) but it can currently be preordered for lower than that from Japanese retailers for the likes of $90 USD.


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Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-38 Beast Wars Convoy (Supreme Commander Version)

Postby Kurona » Thu Jan 12, 2017 11:18 am

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The mutant beast head attaches to the back of Primal's head. I'm pretty sure that's accurate to the original toy so that's fun.
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-38 Beast Wars Convoy (Supreme Commander Version)

Postby Sabrblade » Thu Jan 12, 2017 11:26 am

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WHEEEEEEE, ID numbering awkwardness aside, this looks really good!

Smile, Convoy! You're a movie star!



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Though, ew, that Sourcebook art. :SICK:
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-38 Beast Wars Convoy (Supreme Commander Version)

Postby BluePhirePB » Thu Jan 12, 2017 12:32 pm

Looks cool but I'm cool with my regular Beast Wars MP Primal.
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-38 Beast Wars Convoy (Supreme Commander Version)

Postby Big Grim » Thu Jan 12, 2017 12:37 pm

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Compared to the first MP release, this looks remarkably bland to me. Mutant head is a nice touch but nah.
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-38 Beast Wars Convoy (Supreme Commander Version)

Postby Ironhidensh » Thu Jan 12, 2017 12:38 pm

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It's a nice option, and a repaint that makes sense, but it would have been nice to sit a bit longer before releasing it. Still, this mold is so darn awesome that I might go on and buy it.
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-38 Beast Wars Convoy (Supreme Commander Version)

Postby Sabrblade » Thu Jan 12, 2017 12:39 pm

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A Google translation of the Dengeki Hobby page makes it sound like this figure's deco is first and foremost meant to resemble the character's appearance in the movie, with the specific toy-based attributes added in thanks to the character's movie look using the toy's colors instead of the BW cartoon's colors (but kept the BW cartoon's exposed mouth and chestplate design).

This helps make the MP toy's name make a whole lot more sense since it was in that movie that he was referred to as a Legendary Supreme Commander.
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-38 Beast Wars Convoy (Supreme Commander Version)

Postby Cobotron » Thu Jan 12, 2017 12:40 pm

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! AWESOME!
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-38 Beast Wars Convoy (Supreme Commander Version)

Postby Microraptor » Thu Jan 12, 2017 1:07 pm

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Though, ew, that Sourcebook art. :SICK:


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Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-38 Beast Wars Convoy (Supreme Commander Version)

Postby D-Maximus_Prime » Thu Jan 12, 2017 1:29 pm

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Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-38 Beast Wars Convoy (Supreme Commander Version)

Postby SureShot18 » Thu Jan 12, 2017 1:52 pm

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Ooh that's super nice. Now I know I'm not getting this mold because I couldn't decide between the decos. :lol:
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-38 Beast Wars Convoy (Supreme Commander Version)

Postby Sabrblade » Thu Jan 12, 2017 1:55 pm

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SureShot18 wrote:Ooh that's super nice. Now I know I'm not getting this mold because I couldn't decide between the decos. :lol:
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-38 Beast Wars Convoy (Supreme Commander Version)

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Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-38 Beast Wars Convoy (Supreme Commander Version)

Postby Emerje » Thu Jan 12, 2017 3:39 pm

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Well, I think I have room on the shelf for another Primal.

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Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-38 Beast Wars Convoy (Supreme Commander Version)

Postby Va'al » Thu Jan 12, 2017 4:18 pm

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Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-38 Beast Wars Convoy (Supreme Commander Version)

Postby JelZe GoldRabbit » Thu Jan 12, 2017 4:25 pm

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The numbering is not odd at all if you think about it. In the main retail line, every retool got a new number, regardless of character, and apparently new accessories make them eligible as well. Compare:

MP-12 Lambor & MP-14 Alert
MP-17 Prowl, MP-18 Streak & MP-19 Smokescreen
MP-20 Wheeljack & MP-23 Exhaust
MP-22 Ultra Magnus & MP-31 Delta Magnus (new face plates and figurine)

And Starscream got two releases based on the same basic mold, yet got two numbers: MP-03 and MP-11.

The sub-numbering is a bit more random and probably impossible to figure out, but they have being more limited runs in common.

That said, can I say I called this one? ;;)
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-38 Beast Wars Convoy (Supreme Commander Version)

Postby Cobotron » Thu Jan 12, 2017 4:38 pm

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Only if you can prove it. [-(

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Transformers Podcast: Twincast / Podcast #182 - Great Expectations
Twincast / Podcast #182:
"Great Expectations"
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Posted: Saturday, August 19th, 2017
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