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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-43 Beast Wars Megatron Discussion Thread

Postby Amelie » Sat Jul 07, 2018 6:54 am

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I hear you, Ironhidensh. The inflation is a little harsh, I agree. I can't help but feel they're producing less of these and are still trying to get the same fat profit from it.

I remember saying to Jelze a while ago that I would only consider BW Primal if BW Megatron was announced, but now it has... and the toy is awesome - the price makes me want to hold out for MP Prime V3...
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Postby CrazyDraisey » Sat Jul 07, 2018 11:53 am

For anyone questioning the price point, think of it this way. The whole figure is painted, and has probably triple the surface area of Optimus Primal. Plus he has the best looking dinosaur mode of any Transformers figure to date. If you check out TFSource.com he's the best selling figure ahead of Predaking and even MP Dinobot. Seriously, if you're a fan, just order him and Dinobot before stock runs out. This is a once in a lifetime oppotunity for beast wars enthusiasts. Just...don't take out a bank loan, lol.
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Postby william-james88 » Sat Jul 07, 2018 12:37 pm

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Postby ZeroWolf » Sat Jul 07, 2018 1:03 pm

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william-james88 wrote:Nice to see you again Amelie, you were missed, where did you go?

I think the answer is in the sig.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-43 Beast Wars Megatron Discussion Thread

Postby Amelie » Sat Jul 07, 2018 1:20 pm

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william-james88 wrote:Nice to see you again Amelie, you were missed, where did you go?


I took a break for a bit (I still lurked on here), went to come back and couldn't log in (forgot my password), then realized I couldn't access the email account for my original account. Sent a message to Admin, who then accidentally nuked my old account from Lunar Base 1 into oblivion.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-43 Beast Wars Megatron Discussion Thread

Postby Emerje » Sat Jul 07, 2018 2:34 pm

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Octobotimus wrote:
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Octobotimus wrote:takara has gone too far with its pricing... considering 2 foot tall transformers with MP level transformation cost less than this

That sounds amazing! :shock: How did I miss this? That's definitely something I feel like I should have heard of! Do you have pictures? Who is it, when does it come out?

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to name the 2 foot figures, 2 3rd party omega supremes made by weijang and DX9 both cost less than this thing at 200-250,

1. I wasn't being serious, I know such a thing doesn't exist.
2. Those two are simply cartoon accurate in design, but no more complex than any Titan (they're also too damn big and not Transformers). In fairness a true MP Omega probably wouldn't be any more complex than those, but would probably retain all of the electronics of the original toy. It would probably also cost $500 so don't expect that to ever happen.

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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-43 Beast Wars Megatron Discussion Thread

Postby shajaki » Sat Jul 07, 2018 2:51 pm

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I've been trying to justify buying FT's Terminus... this discussion makes me realize that it should be easy now that I'm on board for Megs here :lol:
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-43 Beast Wars Megatron Discussion Thread

Postby Octobotimus » Sat Jul 07, 2018 3:00 pm

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It seems that my point has proven that most will defend takara no matter what. i do not care what you say, but considering mp 36 was $100 less and still had your beloved electronics (the excuse
you use for the extra 100 bucks) in him, what's the extra 100 bucks? inflation does not happen that quickly, there is no way an extra $100 is justifiable.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-43 Beast Wars Megatron Discussion Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Sat Jul 07, 2018 3:07 pm

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Maybe there's a lot more gone into him then mp 36 (I don't know as I'm not a designer). It's clear you don't want this but others do, it's a bit unfair though to call them loyalists just because they want a product.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-43 Beast Wars Megatron Discussion Thread

Postby shajaki » Sat Jul 07, 2018 3:08 pm

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Octobotimus wrote:It seems that my point has proven that loyalists will defend takara no matter what.
Defend what? I freely admitted the price was insane. But it's a special figure, only a few released a year, I got the money, and most importantly I want it. Not much more to it than that.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-43 Beast Wars Megatron Discussion Thread

Postby Jelze Bunnycat » Sat Jul 07, 2018 3:27 pm

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Octobotimus wrote:It seems that my point has proven that most will defend takara no matter what. i do not care what you say, but considering mp 36 was $100 less and still had your beloved electronics (the excuse
you use for the extra 100 bucks) in him, what's the extra 100 bucks? inflation does not happen that quickly, there is no way an extra $100 is justifiable.


You know I was exaggerating, right? Even then, electronics nowadays do add more than you'd think: in 2005, Cybertron Primus was $50 give or take. The TRU exclusive Primus from this year was a whopping $150. That's not inflation alone talking, plus electronics are all but excised from most toys since 2009, reserved for the larger gimmicky ones.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-43 Beast Wars Megatron Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Sat Jul 07, 2018 10:45 pm

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I do wonder something though, why is he $100 more than MP 36 Megatron? They both have electronics, lots of paint, and the same height. Plus Megatron has the most complex transformation I have ever seen on a toy, that parts count is through the roof. So I dont really get it.
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Postby wilcosu35 » Sat Jul 07, 2018 10:52 pm

Question to the USA members since i'm guessing you're most likely to buy from BBTS: What kind of tax would you need to pay if you were to import this through a Japanese shop like HLJ? It's a certain percentage?
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-43 Beast Wars Megatron Discussion Thread

Postby Jelze Bunnycat » Sat Jul 07, 2018 10:55 pm

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william-james88 wrote:I do wonder something though, why is he $100 more than MP 36 Megatron? They both have electronics, lots of paint, and the same height. Plus Megatron has the most complex transformation I have ever seen on a toy, that parts count is through the roof. So I dont really get it.


Royalties for the voice actor I suppose :lol:
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-43 Beast Wars Megatron Discussion Thread

Postby Octobotimus » Sun Jul 08, 2018 2:23 am

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william-james88 wrote:I do wonder something though, why is he $100 more than MP 36 Megatron? They both have electronics, lots of paint, and the same height. Plus Megatron has the most complex transformation I have ever seen on a toy, that parts count is through the roof. So I dont really get it.


Royalties for the voice actor I suppose :lol:

Not even the good voice actor.... ( sorry but David Kaye is BW megatron and always will be the right fit)
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-43 Beast Wars Megatron Discussion Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Sun Jul 08, 2018 2:57 am

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Unless you're Japanese :-P (who this toy is made for) though would hasbro enlist Mr kaye if they released it domestically...or would they ditch all eltrontics other than the light
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-43 Beast Wars Megatron Discussion Thread

Postby Octobotimus » Sun Jul 08, 2018 3:38 am

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I’d hardly say it’s made for Japan.... considering from what I know and have seen, most of the mp line has been aimed at fans outside of Japan, but since they release in Japan, everything must be in Japanese... and hasbro basically will never releas domestic versions, and if they do, I fear it’ll be far enough in the future where David Kaye won’t be around to voice those clips.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-43 Beast Wars Megatron Discussion Thread

Postby Emerje » Sun Jul 08, 2018 6:20 am

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wilcosu35 wrote:Question to the USA members since i'm guessing you're most likely to buy from BBTS: What kind of tax would you need to pay if you were to import this through a Japanese shop like HLJ? It's a certain percentage?

Japan doesn't charge taxes on exports and the stores aren't obligated to collect US taxes since they aren't American. We also don't have to pay any kind of fees on Japanese imports. Only thing you have to worry about it is shipping costs, but I feel like BW Megatron won't cost a ridiculous amount to ship and the total on importing will probably still be cheaper than buying from BBTS or TFSource.

ZeroWolf wrote:Unless you're Japanese :-P (who this toy is made for) though would hasbro enlist Mr kaye if they released it domestically...or would they ditch all eltrontics other than the light

Knowing Hasbro they'd probably keep the electronics and then hire someone like Jon Bailey so do their best Kaye impression to save costs.

Sadly the cost of electronics in the modern world are always going to be a problem. The supply of silicon used to make all electronics is dwindling while demand continues to climb pushing the prices up and taking the cost of electronics up with them. Adding a voice chip is just another issue, look at what that did to the price of Encore God Fire Convoy, nearly tripled its price from 2000.

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Postby fenrir72 » Sun Jul 08, 2018 7:54 pm

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Hate the electronics because it occupies parts/sections that would have benefited more for the transformation and severely limits them as such. Plus them chips cost too much! :BOOM:

Really a reversal when back in Superlink, Takara canned the voice clips/sound effects over the HB versions. :-?

Now we get them beasties doing the noisy stuff.

Better start saving folks! You know you'll get him else why would you continue to inflict pain on your psyche by continuously posting in the thread? :lol:

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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-43 Beast Wars Megatron Discussion Thread

Postby fantomascr » Mon Jul 09, 2018 11:30 am

Hi guys, Megatron is already available for preorder on Amiami:

http://www.amiami.com/top/detail/detail?gcode=FIGURE-040552&page=top

Price is 26,670 JPY, not bad I think, but shipping can be a hassle.
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Postby Bucky » Mon Jul 09, 2018 11:33 am

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Preorder is up on Amiami :PREDACON:
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-43 Beast Wars Megatron Discussion Thread

Postby Emerje » Mon Jul 09, 2018 4:06 pm

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Got my AmiAmi order in. The exchange rate brings it to around $240 so I'm fine with this. Total after shipping shouldn't be more than $280. Still not the most I've paid for a single "new" transformer, that goes to Encore Fort Max at over $300.

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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-43 Beast Wars Megatron Discussion Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Mon Jul 09, 2018 4:23 pm

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*cracks under pressure* he is amazing...why Takara...Why did you have to make him so good!
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