Va'al wrote:I keep track of everyone. Backwards.
There are atandarfs to maintain.
LOST Cybertronian wrote:Hey, If Mindmaster survived then you should do just fine.
Skyfire77 wrote:Wait. So the comic is saying that Soundwave recorded the message on The Golden Disk (as Megatron), then killed himself, hoping it'd change history/reality (at some point)?
Trippy.
Va'al wrote:I keep track of everyone. Backwards.
There are atandarfs to maintain.
LOST Cybertronian wrote:Hey, If Mindmaster survived then you should do just fine.
Mindmaster wrote:Skyfire77 wrote:Wait. So the comic is saying that Soundwave recorded the message on The Golden Disk (as Megatron), then killed himself, hoping it'd change history/reality (at some point)?
Trippy.
Since you mentioned that, I just now saw that. I didn't realize that the gold background was the Golden Disk.
turbomagnus wrote:Mindmaster wrote:Skyfire77 wrote:Wait. So the comic is saying that Soundwave recorded the message on The Golden Disk (as Megatron), then killed himself, hoping it'd change history/reality (at some point)?
Trippy.
Since you mentioned that, I just now saw that. I didn't realize that the gold background was the Golden Disk.
If that was the intent, it might have been a better idea to have made it smaller so that it was more clearly the Golden Disk. As it is, it just looks like a large gold-coloured area with curvature to the upper and lower borders.
Mindmaster wrote:Soundwave going suicidal?
Eh, interesting to read, but certainly not what I think Soundwave would actually do.
Stormrider wrote:Interesting perspective but I have trouble imagining Soundwave killing himself over Megatron's death. Soundwave seems opportunistic.
Turbomagnus wrote:So much potential as an idea... yet wasted in execution. The artwork looks like it was done in MSPaint - the blocky drawing and the rather pointless squiggles and circles and such, the numbering of the dialogue boxes makes it seem childish, and considering this is Soundwave we're talking about; master blackmailer according to his tech specs and TFU profile, one of the challengers for leadership after Megatron's demise in the movie (Starscream nominated himself, the Constructicons opposed, then Soundwave countered that 'Soundwave: Superior. Constructicons: Inferior.')... the suicide to stay with his leader is a bit unbelievable.
Skyfire77 wrote:Wait. So the comic is saying that Soundwave recorded the message on The Golden Disk (as Megatron), then killed himself, hoping it'd change history/reality (at some point)?
Trippy.
xyl360 wrote:I recognized it as the Golden Disc the moment I saw the small thumbnail for the news article, but then again I'm a total Beast Wars FANATIC so that likely has a lot to do with it (seriously, I need help !).
This one almost makes sense to me, as I always did see Soundwave as being the most loyal of Decepticons (him and Shockwave, though that's entirely based on the show as I never read the comics). In fact, when Soundwave allows Starscream to cast out Megatron in the movie and quickly jumps up to try and become leader (after Rumble and Frenzie nominate him), it always seemed way out of character to me and I figured it was just so they could have a plot device with little conflict (though it does lead to the death of Starscream) to turn Megatron into Galvatron and get Unicron directly involved in the Autobot vs Decepticon war.
ILL-Star wrote:But doesn't Soundwave live in J'nwan with Megatron after the Autobot\Decepticon war alongside Optimus and Grimlock.
Rated X wrote:I seriously dont get it.
ILL-Star wrote:Verno, heres the link mentioning J'nwan and Soundwave. I myself am not too familiar with any of the comics, so if this is accurate or not I don't know.http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Authority
Megatron Wolf wrote:i dont think soundwave would kill himself, not only does that just not seem like him but he has minions that would probably fall apart without him. Soundwave is loyal to Megatron sometimes to a fault but hes also loyal to his minions as well and thats the main reason why i dont think he'd kill himself.
Verno wrote:Mindmaster wrote:Soundwave going suicidal?
Eh, interesting to read, but certainly not what I think Soundwave would actually do.
I knew this was something I was going to come up against with the piece. Soundwave has been around since the beginning of TFs and as such has been interpreted and reinterpreted quite a lot, but I see him as loyal, and when looking at the larger picture of the Universe, in which the Autobots are about to win the War, death is perhaps a more favourable outcome than living as a Decepticon after an Autobot victory.Stormrider wrote:Interesting perspective but I have trouble imagining Soundwave killing himself over Megatron's death. Soundwave seems opportunistic.
It's not just about Megatron's death, there is a lot going into his decision. And if the plan works, he won't be dead anyway!Turbomagnus wrote:So much potential as an idea... yet wasted in execution. The artwork looks like it was done in MSPaint - the blocky drawing and the rather pointless squiggles and circles and such, the numbering of the dialogue boxes makes it seem childish, and considering this is Soundwave we're talking about; master blackmailer according to his tech specs and TFU profile, one of the challengers for leadership after Megatron's demise in the movie (Starscream nominated himself, the Constructicons opposed, then Soundwave countered that 'Soundwave: Superior. Constructicons: Inferior.')... the suicide to stay with his leader is a bit unbelievable.
The artwork was done in MS Paint I'm not an artist.
And I think you missed what the pointless squiggles are actually the etchings in the surface of the Golden Disk. And it looks like you're not alone. That's entirely my fault with the poor artwork. But I hope the story made more sense to you after realising what it actually was. And as for the numbered boxes, I showed a draft to a few friends, which also contained more writing. They said it might be a bit confusing without the numbers, so I covered all the bases and added them, poorly But I was trying to avoid confusion.
As mentioned above, I've always seen Soundwave as loyal, and the word appears no less than 9 times on his TF Wiki page.
There's a lot more to the suicide, as I've also mentioned above.Skyfire77 wrote:Wait. So the comic is saying that Soundwave recorded the message on The Golden Disk (as Megatron), then killed himself, hoping it'd change history/reality (at some point)?
Trippy.
Good trippy or bad trippy?
I acknowledge that the story takes the foundation of Beast Wars and turns it on it's head, but as we've never seen G1 Megatron actually encrypting the disk (all we got was BW Megatron's assumption) I figured it was fair game to mess with!xyl360 wrote:I recognized it as the Golden Disc the moment I saw the small thumbnail for the news article, but then again I'm a total Beast Wars FANATIC so that likely has a lot to do with it (seriously, I need help !).
This one almost makes sense to me, as I always did see Soundwave as being the most loyal of Decepticons (him and Shockwave, though that's entirely based on the show as I never read the comics). In fact, when Soundwave allows Starscream to cast out Megatron in the movie and quickly jumps up to try and become leader (after Rumble and Frenzie nominate him), it always seemed way out of character to me and I figured it was just so they could have a plot device with little conflict (though it does lead to the death of Starscream) to turn Megatron into Galvatron and get Unicron directly involved in the Autobot vs Decepticon war.
You and I seem to be on a similar wave length!
Beast Wars is the GREATEST!ILL-Star wrote:But doesn't Soundwave live in J'nwan with Megatron after the Autobot\Decepticon war alongside Optimus and Grimlock.
I've never read that anywhere. I'd love a citation though.Rated X wrote:I seriously dont get it.
I hope my explanations have cleared it up for you a bit. If not, I'm happy to answer any questions!
T-Macksimus wrote:Once it was clearly revealed that it was the Golden Disc everything dropped into place fairly easily. The one shot works as a nice teaser for a larger piece to come but not knowing about that ahead of time did make for some confusion. Very well thought out premise though. Very logical, almost to the point of Shockwave logical but without the lust for power buried underneath the calculating exterior.
I have a couple of great visions for Soundwave being poised to "off" himself but, like you, I lack the necessary talent to translate that mental picture to paper or computer. I would love to see the whole story once it's finally done up. This would make for an intriguing mini-series.
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