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Transformers MP 48 + Black Lio Convoy Revealed

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Re: Transformers MP 48 + Black Lio Convoy Revealed

Postby Sabrblade » Tue Jul 12, 2022 2:34 pm

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At last, we have a full English translation of the Dark Amber Leo Prime comic, courtesy of TFWiki members Star Spangled Sam (who translated it) and MrRald (who lettered the comic translation).

It is the first chapter in a new series titled "The Transformers: End of G1 Universe", set at the very end of the Japanese Generation 1 cartoon timeline.


But first, a bit of backstory.

At the end of Beast Wars Second, the Predacon Emperor of Destruction Galvatron used his final weapon of mass destruction, the Artificial Planet Nemesis, to extract all of the Angolmois Energy (a wonderous energy capable of great power) from within the Planet Gaia (a post-apocalyptic version of Earth in the far future). However, the observation android Artemis (stationed within a base on the moon) used her own power to move the entire moon within Nemesis's way to disrupt the flow of Angolmois Energy enough to prevent the entirety of it from being fully removed from the planet 100%.

The amount of Angolmois Energy that Galvatron had extracted was then absorbed directly into himself, powering him up for a final confrontation with Maximal commander Lio Convoy, who had likewise powered up to a new form known as the "Legendary Green Lion" by combining the powers of his Energon Matrix with that of his son, Lio Junior, which merged the two into the green warrior in the process.

During this final battle, Lio Convoy used his Matrix to contain all of Galvatron's Angolmois Energy into capsules, which he then scattered across the universe. In the aftermath of Galvatron's destruction, Lio Convoy and his team of Maximals got trapped within a wormhole and went missing for a time. During the time, the wormhole ended up sending Lio Convoy all the way back in time to before the destruction of Unicron in 2005 (as seen in TFTM). According the online manga produced for the Japanese Generations Selects toyline, he apparently took the LONG way to get back home to his time in the future many millennia later.

During this long journey of his to get back home, he popped up on Earth in the year 2050 to help G1 Optimus Prime during the Autobots' and Decepticons' final battle on Earth, in which Lio Convoy channeled his green lion form again (this time without Lio Junior) to defeat an out-of-control Megatron Omega (G1 Megatron's most powerful form of all), whose power was running amok so badly that he could have destroyed the whole planet.

So many millennia later, Lio Convoy finally made it back to the future in Beast Wars Neo, resurfacing on the ancient Decepticon colony of Planet Dinosaur, which Unicron had taken a big bite out of back before his destruction in 2005. Lio Convoy met the Maximal crew of Big Convoy and informed them of Unicron's connection to Angolmois Energy, that it was actually his life energy (which the Generations Selects manga would further retcon to have been an evil, corrupted form of Primus's own energy, but I digress).

In the final episode of Beast Wars Neo, Lio Convoy made it back to Cybertron to help Big Convoy defeat the resurrected Unicron once and for all. While Lio Convoy battled Unicron (who had assumed the appearance of Galvatron) in his green form, Big Convoy destroyed the planet-eater for good with his Matrix Buster cannon. In the aftermath of the battle, both Lio Convoy and Big Convoy were offered to become Great Convoys (the leaders of Cybertronian goverment) by the God of Cybertron, Vector Sigma. While Big Convoy declined the offer, Lio Convoy accepted.

After this, Lio Convoy became an elder known as "Great Lio Convoy". He then continued to have adventures in other dimensions across the mutliverse, particularly in the TransTech world of Axiom Nexus (in stories written by Fun Pub for the Transformers Collectors Club), in the Japanese Transformers: Prime toy bios (in which he went by a new name: "Leo Prime"), and finally in the Legends World of the Transformers Legends manga (in which he continued to use his "Leo Prime" name). At the end of Legends, he departed the Legends World to parts unknown, which FINALLY brings us to this new comic.

So much time has passed since the events of Beast Wars Neo. By now, the universe is dying. After many body upgrades across his multiversal travels, Lio Convoy is now back in his original Beast Wars Second lion body, but is still known by his "Leo Prime" name and is thus referred to as such. In fact, it is so far into the future that he is now dead, his body a lifeless corpse, which brings us to where the comic begins:


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The whole "Metamorph Code" thing is... interesting. See, where the Maximals and Predacons say "Maximize" and "Terrorize" in the English version of Beast Wars, they instead both say "Henshin" in the Japanese version, "Henshin" being a Japanese word for "Transformation". In this comic, both the English and Japanese transformation codes are used for the first time ever, giving us "Henshin Code: Maximize" and "Henshin Code: Terrorize". And since characters with vehicle modes still say "Transform!" in Japanese series like Beast Wars Second and Car Robots, and say it in contrast to those with beast modes saying "Henshin", "Metamorph" is used here as a translation of "Henshin".
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Re: Transformers MP 48 + Black Lio Convoy Revealed

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Wed Jul 13, 2022 2:02 pm

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Nice to see something Beast Era drawn well. Writing is about the same quality as IDW... >:oP

On the one hand, good to see a new Bird Bot redeco for the line. On the other, an all-round worse redeco for Jawbreaker. Pretty bad name too. "Untite" :???:
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Re: Transformers MP 48 + Black Lio Convoy Revealed

Postby Jelze Bunnycat » Wed Jul 13, 2022 2:04 pm

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So... for the backstory to properly make sense time-wise... all he had to do was pull a Waspinator. Got it. :lol:
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Re: Transformers MP 48 + Black Lio Convoy Revealed

Postby Sabrblade » Wed Jul 13, 2022 2:07 pm

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AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Nice to see something Beast Era drawn well. Writing is about the same quality as IDW... >:oP

On the one hand, good to see a new Bird Bot redeco for the line. On the other, an all-round worse redeco for Jawbreaker. Pretty bad name too. "Untite" :???:
We don't actually know what his name really is. "Untite" is currently just a guess. His name is spelled アンタイト ("Antaito"), but seeing as it's in Katakana rather than Hiragana, it's non-Japanese in origin, so your best guess is as good as any until Sakamoto comes right out and says what his name is supposed to be.
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Re: Transformers MP 48 + Black Lio Convoy Revealed

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Wed Jul 13, 2022 2:10 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Nice to see something Beast Era drawn well. Writing is about the same quality as IDW... >:oP

On the one hand, good to see a new Bird Bot redeco for the line. On the other, an all-round worse redeco for Jawbreaker. Pretty bad name too. "Untite" :???:
We don't actually know what his name really is. "Untite" is current just a guess. His name is spelled アンタイト ("Antaito"), but seeing as it's in Katakana rather than Hiragana, it's non-Japanese in origin, so your best guess is as good as any until Sakamoto comes right out and says what his name is supposed to be.


I noticed. I just read the entry in the Wiki. Most seem quite stumped by the name. :-? Also, there is only one Genocide Cutter...
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If he did that against Dark Amber, I'd have been really impressed :lol:
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Re: Transformers MP 48 + Black Lio Convoy Revealed

Postby Sabrblade » Sun Jul 31, 2022 9:59 am

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A second comic for Dark Amber Leo Prime, part of the "End of G1 Universe" series, has been posted to TakaraTomy's website. TFWiki member Star Spangled Sam has translated it into English, and MrRald has lettered the comic with Sam's translation.

It is the second part of a two-part story, so if you haven't seen the first comic yet, check it out here first.

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Re: Transformers MP 48 + Black Lio Convoy Revealed

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Sun Jul 31, 2022 10:09 am

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Now I don't know what I was expecting, but that wasn't it...
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Re: Transformers MP 48 + Black Lio Convoy Revealed

Postby First-Aid » Sun Jul 31, 2022 11:19 am

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AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Now I don't know what I was expecting, but that wasn't it...


I'll second that. WTF??? What good shrooms were they eating while writing this?
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Its kind of like Basic Instinct, but not in a good way...


Goddammit, now I can't unsee it.
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Re: Transformers MP 48 + Black Lio Convoy Revealed

Postby Sabrblade » Sun Jul 31, 2022 11:22 am

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AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Now I don't know what I was expecting, but that wasn't it...


I'll second that. WTF??? What good shrooms were they eating while writing this?
Ask ye questions and I shall attempt to alleviate ye confusion. ;)
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Re: Transformers MP 48 + Black Lio Convoy Revealed

Postby First-Aid » Sun Jul 31, 2022 11:27 am

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First-Aid wrote:
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Now I don't know what I was expecting, but that wasn't it...


I'll second that. WTF??? What good shrooms were they eating while writing this?
Ask ye questions and I shall attempt to alleviate ye confusion. ;)


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First-Aid wrote:Okay, did anyone else notice that we all get a wonderful shot of Starscreams crotch anytime he sits in that throne? That's unnerving. Couldn't they have put n extra flap in there? It's....weird.


Its kind of like Basic Instinct, but not in a good way...


Goddammit, now I can't unsee it.
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Re: Transformers MP 48 + Black Lio Convoy Revealed

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Sun Jul 31, 2022 11:33 am

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The tone of part two is also a complete mess. I doubt the translation is to blame. More likely, ala the terrible Japanese Mainframe dub, this "humour" was the intent.

Also, Unicron The Life Giver? Possibly the lamest idea I've seen in Transformers to date.
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Re: Transformers MP 48 + Black Lio Convoy Revealed

Postby Sabrblade » Sun Jul 31, 2022 11:34 am

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First-Aid wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
First-Aid wrote:
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Now I don't know what I was expecting, but that wasn't it...


I'll second that. WTF??? What good shrooms were they eating while writing this?
Ask ye questions and I shall attempt to alleviate ye confusion. ;)


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They're made of... Angolmois Energy!
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Re: Transformers MP 48 + Black Lio Convoy Revealed

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Sun Jul 31, 2022 11:35 am

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Sabrblade wrote:
First-Aid wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
First-Aid wrote:
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Now I don't know what I was expecting, but that wasn't it...


I'll second that. WTF??? What good shrooms were they eating while writing this?
Ask ye questions and I shall attempt to alleviate ye confusion. ;)


You know what kind of shrooms they were? SHARE SHARE SHARE!!!
They're made of... Angolmois Energy!


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Re: Transformers MP 48 + Black Lio Convoy Revealed

Postby Sabrblade » Sun Jul 31, 2022 11:40 am

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AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Also, Unicron The Life Giver? Possibly the lamest idea I've seen in Transformers to date.
He both is and isn't Unicron.

And it's rather consistent with what Unicron's power has been shown to be capable of. Back in Transformers: Energon, Alpha Quintesson managed to harness the power of Unicron from his dead body to recreate all of his planets that Unicron had devoured years and years ago. Of course, when he was finally revived later, Unicron himself was none too happy about his power being used in such a way.

And, as was revealed just two years ago, the Angolmois Energy of Unicron in Japanese G1/Japanese BW is actually Primus's energy, which Primacron had corrupted (after trapping Primus in the body of a primitive) and used to create Unicron.
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Re: Transformers MP 48 + Black Lio Convoy Revealed

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Sun Jul 31, 2022 12:04 pm

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Why did the Japanese arm of HasTak make their version of Transformers lore so ..goofy? Only they could still unironically utilise Primacron...
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Re: Transformers MP 48 + Black Lio Convoy Revealed

Postby Sabrblade » Sun Jul 31, 2022 4:06 pm

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AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Why did the Japanese arm of HasTak make their version of Transformers lore so ..goofy? Only they could still unironically utilise Primacron...
Japanese continuity was built around the cartoons. To them, whatever the cartoons said was absolute truth. "Call of the Primitives" said Unicron was built by Primacron, so that was an indisputable fact for them. They never had any problem with it because they never had anything that said otherwise. The Marvel comics with their "evil god" backstory for Unicron never came to Japan officially until the 2010s. And Beast Wars Neo even made it a plot point that Japanese Unicron is specifically not a god, with his ultimate goal being that wants to become a god.
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Postby First-Aid » Sun Jul 31, 2022 4:18 pm

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AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Why did the Japanese arm of HasTak make their version of Transformers lore so ..goofy? Only they could still unironically utilise Primacron...
Japanese continuity was built around the cartoons. To them, whatever the cartoons said was absolute truth. "Call of the Primitives" said Unicron was built by Primacron, so that was an indisputable fact for them. They never had any problem with it because they never had anything that said otherwise. The Marvel comics with their "evil god" backstory for Unicron never came to Japan officially until the 2010s. And Beast Wars Neo even made it a plot point that Japanese Unicron is specifically not a god, with his ultimate goal being that wants to become a god.


:BOOM: :BOOM: :BOOM:
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First-Aid wrote:Okay, did anyone else notice that we all get a wonderful shot of Starscreams crotch anytime he sits in that throne? That's unnerving. Couldn't they have put n extra flap in there? It's....weird.


Its kind of like Basic Instinct, but not in a good way...


Goddammit, now I can't unsee it.
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Re: Transformers MP 48 + Black Lio Convoy Revealed

Postby Sabrblade » Sun Jul 31, 2022 6:41 pm

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First-Aid wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Why did the Japanese arm of HasTak make their version of Transformers lore so ..goofy? Only they could still unironically utilise Primacron...
Japanese continuity was built around the cartoons. To them, whatever the cartoons said was absolute truth. "Call of the Primitives" said Unicron was built by Primacron, so that was an indisputable fact for them. They never had any problem with it because they never had anything that said otherwise. The Marvel comics with their "evil god" backstory for Unicron never came to Japan officially until the 2010s. And Beast Wars Neo even made it a plot point that Japanese Unicron is specifically not a god, with his ultimate goal being that wants to become a god.


:BOOM: :BOOM: :BOOM:
It's basically like how, in the UK, the Marvel comics were viewed as the definitive version of the Transformers in the 1980s, since the G1 cartoon was so scarcely broadcasted there.
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Re: Transformers MP 48 + Black Lio Convoy Revealed

Postby Emerje » Mon Aug 01, 2022 12:23 am

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AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Also, Unicron The Life Giver? Possibly the lamest idea I've seen in Transformers to date.
He both is and isn't Unicron.

And it's rather consistent with what Unicron's power has been shown to be capable of. Back in Transformers: Energon, Alpha Quintesson managed to harness the power of Unicron from his dead body to recreate all of his planets that Unicron had devoured years and years ago. Of course, when he was finally revived later, Unicron himself was none too happy about his power being used in such a way.

And, as was revealed just two years ago, the Angolmois Energy of Unicron in Japanese G1/Japanese BW is actually Primus's energy, which Primacron had corrupted (after trapping Primus in the body of a primitive) and used to create Unicron.

To say nothing of creating Mini-cons or even what we saw him do in the movie. Death, birth and rebirth are kinda his thing.

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Dark Amber Leo Prime Manga Part II Translated to English

Postby Bounti76 » Mon Aug 01, 2022 10:00 am

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Thanks to Seibertronian Sabrblade for alerting us to this second part of the manga for the upcoming Dark Amber Leo Prime figure, due for release in January of next year.

A second comic for Dark Amber Leo Prime, part of the "End of G1 Universe" series, has been posted to TakaraTomy's website. TFWiki member Star Spangled Sam has translated it into English, and MrRald has lettered the comic with Sam's translation.

It is the second part of a two-part story, so if you haven't seen the first comic yet, check it out here first.


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Re: Transformers MP 48 + Black Lio Convoy Revealed

Postby TulioDude » Mon Aug 01, 2022 10:29 am

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Unicron has a change of heart?

Interesting idea!
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Re: Transformers MP 48 + Black Lio Convoy Revealed

Postby Sabrblade » Mon Aug 01, 2022 10:32 am

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TulioDude wrote:Unicron has a change of heart?

Interesting idea!
Technically, he both is and isn't Unicron. He's something new, born of both Unicron's power and Lio Convoy's body/soul.
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Re: Transformers MP 48 + Black Lio Convoy Revealed

Postby Immortal Starscream » Mon Aug 01, 2022 11:13 am

Sabrblade wrote:
TulioDude wrote:Unicron has a change of heart?

Interesting idea!
Technically, he both is and isn't Unicron. He's something new, born of both Unicron's power and Lio Convoy's body/soul.


Right, the way it was shown in part one, and to some degree here, is that lio convoys mind has some control over unicron's spark. Similar to how unicron controlled galvatron by causing him pain, only here they are in the same body. It is imho a novel take on the whole nemesis prime concept, let alone a neat idea for an anti-hero.

edit: also gotta say I love seeing one of the old beast wars micro playsets getting some love here. I still have that killer whale somewhere.
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Re: Transformers MP 48 + Black Lio Convoy Revealed

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Ok, so satan saves the universe from destruction, and recreates earth? Uh- Yeah, Japan is weird....
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