Sabrblade wrote:ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Nemesis Primal wrote:ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:They could also have done redecoes homaging Energon Optimus' drones since CW Optimus has some major detail homages to him in torso mode... but they didn't do that either.
...they did do that though, that's exactly what they did. Those "random Autobot repaints" exactly match the colors of his Prime Force drones.
Ironhide=Fire-1=
RedProwl=Copter-2=
WhiteSunstreaker=Digger-3=
YellowMirage=Submarine-4=
Blue
That's a stretch that you're pulling out of your exhaust port and you know it. Not only did you get one of the colors wrong (Fire-1 is ORANGE), the remaining three matches seem highly coincidental at best (And just where do Hound, Smokescreen, Wheeljack, and Trailbreaker fit into your equation, hm?). Methinks a deliberate homage would, you know, have gone for vehicles that more closely matched. Like, say, redecoing Alpha Bravo (an actual helicopter) for Copter-2, Nosecone (You know, the actual digging vehicle guy) for Digger-3.. Dunno for sure what you would pass off as submarine, but the Afterbreaker mold or maybe a helicopter sans rotors probably works better for that than a freaking Formula racer. The Offroad mold probably is the best bet for Fire-1, though. But still, given all that, I highly doubt Ironhide, Prowl, Sunstreaker, and Mirage are a deliberate homage to the Prime Force. And if they are, then they're a poorly conceived and executed one.
When Takara released Unite Warriors Convoy Grand Prime, they not only colored Prime's torso to better match Energon Optimus's Super Mode torso more closely than the Hasbro toy did, but deliberately took further advantage of the Energon Optimus homage by specifically putting Ironhide, Prowl, Sunstreaker, and Mirage into the official limb arrangement that color-coordinated with the official main configuration of Energon Optimus's drones, placing Ironhide as the right arm like Fire-1 (yes yes, red is not orange, but they're still closely-related colors), Prowl as the left arm like Copter-2, Sunstreaker as the right leg like Digger-3, and Mirage as the left leg like Submarine-4.
As opposed to Hasbro's official configuration of the same limbs for Optimus Maximus not taking advantage of the Energon homage by instead just putting them in a more random order:
I'll grant you that. But it feels more like Takara realizing those four redecoes could be used for the Energon homage
after Hasbro released them, rather than Hasbro deliberately selecting those characters with the Energon homage in mind from the start. Especially with the arrangement Hasbro put them in on "Optimus Maximus". And I maintain that if Hasbro
was trying to homage Energon with those four, it was a poor execution (a police car is not a helicopter, and they could have gone with Huffer instead of Ironhide to get an orange truck.. Redecoing Nosecone would make for a far better Digger-3 than Sunstreaker, although looking at the waves, he was released later than these four).
ZeroWolf wrote:Why would you say that about combiner wars hating customisers? From results I've seen around the Web you can get some great results. Look at what our own Kanrabat has achieved with his combiner customs.
Yes, people have made some great customs. But HOLY CRAP are the figures a pain in the rear to dismantle so that you CAN customize them. There are some extremely stubborn and in some cases outright rude pins to deal with removing when taking them apart (this also applies to Titans Return. Looking at you, Blurr's canopy pin). I know this from experience because I've dismantled Mirage and Smokescreen to turn into Drag Strip and either Dead End or Wildrider, respectively (because I was able to get them cheaper than the actual Stunticons). It was rather frustrating in places, and I outright gave up on dismantling the HFGs and decided to build my own combiner hands instead out of wood and stuff.
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