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ZeroWolf wrote:I saw the masters at asda living as well.

william-james88 wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:I saw the masters at asda living as well.

to be fair that is the name of the shop

I'd say "I suppose I now know how Geewunners feel when a character is recast" but frankly no reimagined Beast Wars character in Animated (Waspinator and Blackarachnia) had their original VA and both were quite good. Maybe it's because, as terrible and as much as I don't care too much about the Machinima shows, that the PotP Optimus Primal figure is functionally intended to be the 'same' character in a way. Or at least same continuity family. Much like G1 Optimus I can't imagine a different voice coming out of that character. Peter Cullen is Prime and Gary Chalk is Primal.

Maybe its just the nostalgia speaking and because I had a faint hope Chalk would get a chance to retake the role decades later much like Cullen retook his place as the voice of Optimus Prime. Especially since I highly doubt we'll ever see Optimus Primal again in any form of animated medium, given how Beast Wars has faded into the background and is clearly not part of Hasbro's intended 'brand image' for Transformers, which is clearly intent on focusing purely on a Generation 1-inspired cast.

I'm still surprised that hasbro never did anything for the 20th anniversary

Skritz wrote: Beast Wars has faded into the background and is clearly not part of Hasbro's intended 'brand image' for Transformers, which is clearly intent on focusing purely on a Generation 1-inspired cast.

Never say never. Been around this brand the entire time, and the one thing I've learned is, anything is possible. Regimes rise and fall everyday.

Keep hope alive, Skirtz. Keep hope alive!

ZeroWolf wrote:I'm still surprised that hasbro never did anything for the 20th anniversary

Well they did have the 15th anniversary line, and T30 had a little bit of everything, maybe the 25th will be the big one for BW??

o.supreme wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:I'm still surprised that hasbro never did anything for the 20th anniversary

Well they did have the 15th anniversary line, and T30 had a little bit of everything, maybe the 25th will be the big one for BW??

It all depends on the design team.

Cobotron wrote:

Skritz wrote: Beast Wars has faded into the background and is clearly not part of Hasbro's intended 'brand image' for Transformers, which is clearly intent on focusing purely on a Generation 1-inspired cast.

Never say never. Been around this brand the entire time, and the one thing I've learned is, anything is possible. Regimes rise and fall everyday.

Keep hope alive, Skirtz. Keep hope alive!

What about Generations Thrilling 30 Rattrap, Rhinox, Waspinator and Tankor?

Lunatic Prime wrote:

Cobotron wrote:

Skritz wrote: Beast Wars has faded into the background and is clearly not part of Hasbro's intended 'brand image' for Transformers, which is clearly intent on focusing purely on a Generation 1-inspired cast.

Never say never. Been around this brand the entire time, and the one thing I've learned is, anything is possible. Regimes rise and fall everyday.

Keep hope alive, Skirtz. Keep hope alive!

What about Generations Thrilling 30 Rattrap, Rhinox, Waspinator and Tankor?

The current design team doesn't like Beast Wars all that much which is why they completely and intentionally (admitted in interviews) ignored the Beast Wars 20th anniversary.

Emerje

Emerje wrote:

Lunatic Prime wrote:

Cobotron wrote:

Skritz wrote: Beast Wars has faded into the background and is clearly not part of Hasbro's intended 'brand image' for Transformers, which is clearly intent on focusing purely on a Generation 1-inspired cast.

Never say never. Been around this brand the entire time, and the one thing I've learned is, anything is possible. Regimes rise and fall everyday.

Keep hope alive, Skirtz. Keep hope alive!

What about Generations Thrilling 30 Rattrap, Rhinox, Waspinator and Tankor?

The current design team doesn't like Beast Wars all that much which is why they completely and intentionally...

?ignored?

...(admitted in interviews) the Beast Wars 20th anniversary.

Emerje

So they are just ignorant idiots who don't care about what others want like many other people?!
That's really smart especially if you are working in a huge company that has to provide what people want.

Lunatic Prime wrote:What about Generations Thrilling 30 Rattrap, Rhinox, Waspinator and Tankor?

That was part of the previous regime as Cobo would put it. John Warden's team started with Roadbuster and Whirl from that line, and has been extremely G1-centric since. I, for one, am happy to see it, since we are getting characters in desperate need of overalls (or in need of toys in general).

So I can do without, but I understand why. For instance, I would have rather had other characters as the secondary mold uses instead of Ironhide, Sunstreaker, Mirage, and Prowl. However, in PotP, aside from Leader class, we are getting a bunch of fantastic G1 characters who needed a modern interpretation (my opinion).

Dreadwind/Blackwing
Dinobots
Beachcomber, Duocons, possibly Outback
Novastar, Moonracer, and Elita-1
Terrorcons
Predacons

The only "fails" in this line so far (for me) are:
1. Starscream's build doesn't really fit his character, and the Bot with Jet Backpack has run its course.

2. Windcharger. A great toy, but yes the face is a bit weird, and we just got a Windcharger 2 years ago.

3. While Jazz is a great figure, we already got a nearly perfect Jazz in the Generations line not too long ago. Could have been a different character.

4. Lack of Voyager weapons. The Bracers are ok, but man do I want Grimlock to have his Dual Cannon blaster and Sword.

5. Rodimus Unicronus as a repeat already, and Optimus Prime saturation in general.


I brought up my CW Stunticons to compare, and it is pretty neat to see how much more creative the engineering is on the newer vehicles. Basically, if those 5 points are really all I can complain about, this line is going to be another win for Hasbro (and loss for my wallet).

Emerje wrote:

Lunatic Prime wrote:

Cobotron wrote:

Skritz wrote: Beast Wars has faded into the background and is clearly not part of Hasbro's intended 'brand image' for Transformers, which is clearly intent on focusing purely on a Generation 1-inspired cast.

Never say never. Been around this brand the entire time, and the one thing I've learned is, anything is possible. Regimes rise and fall everyday.

Keep hope alive, Skirtz. Keep hope alive!

What about Generations Thrilling 30 Rattrap, Rhinox, Waspinator and Tankor?

The current design team doesn't like Beast Wars all that much which is why they completely and intentionally (admitted in interviews) ignored the Beast Wars 20th anniversary.

Emerje

Exactly! Hence my comment

Cobotron wrote: Regimes rise and fall everyday.

Edit: Mordhelm gets it!

mordhelm wrote:4. Lack of Voyager weapons. The Bracers are ok, but man do I want Grimlock to have his Dual Cannon blaster and Sword.

You could give him TR Laser Optimus Prime's weapons. And might exchange the sword for FoC Grimlock's.

Lunatic Prime wrote:

mordhelm wrote:4. Lack of Voyager weapons. The Bracers are ok, but man do I want Grimlock to have his Dual Cannon blaster and Sword.

You could give him TR Laser Optimus Prime's weapons. And might exchange the sword for FoC Grimlock's.

HERE! HERE!

leokearon wrote:

partholon wrote:

WreckerJack wrote:Our very own Leokearon has brought to our attention that MetalHawk and Cloudburst Prime Masters are hitting shelves in Ireland in case anyone was unaware. They were seen and purchased at Ken Black Toys in Wexford, Ireland for €7 each. Leokearon goes on to mention that they also saw Skullgrin but did not purchase him. Transformers Power of the Primes Leader Class Optimus Prime and Rodimus were also available for for €53 at the same store. Here are some pics of the Prime Masters purchased.

If you spot any cool new Transformers figures or products, please let us know and use the sightings page!

Smyths here (ireland) have grimlock and starscream due to go on sale the end of February on their website.

Not a sighting i know but at least ya see the price €28.

And the deluxe swoop and slag are €19

Which is a lot cheaper than titan returns figs went for.

According to the Irish SMYTHS site, the deluxes are due to be released some time between the 22nd and 31st January, but no sign of them yet in the Waterford store. of course Ken Black is a spin-off of SMYTHS.

Also I was surprised to see the Prime Masters available given SMYTHS/Ken Black never sold the Titan Masters

yeah i wasnt expecting em to get them either. it cost me 8.90 to import leige maximo from the states so if i can pick up the set for 7 quid a piece im all for that ! its amazing how detailed they are for such small fig- literally half the size of a legion fig- and ive really taken to them ( i was just gonna get the cons ones but seeing as bots like grimlock dont come with much by the way of weaponry im gonna load him up with them.)



heres the link to the smyths site for others that want to check it out. only the deluxes and voyagers up so far but as they add as they go that doesnt mean no prime masters.

https://www.smythstoys.com/ie/en-ie/search/?text=transformers+power+of+the+primes

Lunatic Prime wrote:That's really smart especially if you are working in a huge company that has to provide what people want.

They just have to provide product for the company to sell. It doesnt have to be what we want, we are a small group anyway. John Warden said it was easiest to convince Hasbro of combiners when he showed he could make a whole line using a limited mount of tooling and they said yes. And everyone bought it. Including kids who had never heard of combiners before.

So now they let him do what he wants as long as its within budget. And he preffers G1 to Beast Wars. As long as people keep buying G1 homages, Hasbro will know that these toys sell and simply say yes to more.

Cobotron wrote:

Lunatic Prime wrote:

mordhelm wrote:4. Lack of Voyager weapons. The Bracers are ok, but man do I want Grimlock to have his Dual Cannon blaster and Sword.

You could give him TR Laser Optimus Prime's weapons. And might exchange the sword for FoC Grimlock's.

HERE! HERE!

Hey if you're looking for weppons to be used with grimlook
try combiner wars motormaster's weppons. They work the best in my opinion

Yeah, regarding the current team's lack of attention given to Beast Wars, the only updates to past things we get from the current team in the Generations line now are G1, JG1, and the odd bone thrown to Armada.

Optimus Primal's only happening because of the fan vote.

Cobotron wrote:

Lunatic Prime wrote:

mordhelm wrote:4. Lack of Voyager weapons. The Bracers are ok, but man do I want Grimlock to have his Dual Cannon blaster and Sword.

You could give him TR Laser Optimus Prime's weapons. And might exchange the sword for FoC Grimlock's.

HERE! HERE!

He's looking quite happy there with his new upgrades at least your grimlock as got his briefs on *

*compared to that picture jelze found of a badly mistransformed grimlock in his own instruction manual.

Gah, I wasn't bothered by the Prime masters at first but I'm starting to want them...

Sabrblade wrote:Yeah, regarding the current team's lack of attention given to Beast Wars, the only updates to past things we get from the current team in the Generations line now are G1, JG1, and the odd bone thrown to Armada.

Optimus Primal's only happening because of the fan vote.

JG1?

Hotconvoy wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Yeah, regarding the current team's lack of attention given to Beast Wars, the only updates to past things we get from the current team in the Generations line now are G1, JG1, and the odd bone thrown to Armada.

Optimus Primal's only happening because of the fan vote.

JG1?

Japanese G1.

Sabrblade wrote:Yeah, regarding the current team's lack of attention given to Beast Wars, the only updates to past things we get from the current team in the Generations line now are G1, JG1, and the odd bone thrown to Armada.

Optimus Primal's only happening because of the fan vote.

So an Evolution BW Megatron is pretty unlikely to come, I guess
At least they get some love in the Masterpiece line but they don't appeal enough to me to make me pay those prices. And I prefer more realistic looking beast modes.
I'm really attracted to Prime 1 Studio's Beast Wars Megatron but will he really cost over 1.000 €, $, whatever currency
Link: 1.299,00 €

Hotconvoy wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Yeah, regarding the current team's lack of attention given to Beast Wars, the only updates to past things we get from the current team in the Generations line now are G1, JG1, and the odd bone thrown to Armada.

Optimus Primal's only happening because of the fan vote.

JG1?

Got it thanks

Lunatic Prime wrote:So an Evolution BW Megatron is pretty unlikely to come, I guess

Part of me hopes John Warden and co are prompted to give Beast Wars a bit more attention following Primal winning that vote, as well as all the times Beast Wars characters have been voted into the Hall of Fame. I'm not expecting a full-blown toyline or anything, I'd be more than happy with just a new Deluxe Cheetor that's better than the Universe one. Leader Evolution Megatron would be nice, though personally I'd rather have Thunderwing, because the Evolution gimmick would work really well for him.

Alright, so after having plenty of time to mess with them, here is how I rank PotP wave 1 figures, from my favorite to least favorite:

Rodimus Prime
Slash
Swoop
Jazz
Metalhawk
Skullgrin
Cloudburst
Grimlock
Beachcomber
Starscream
Dreadwind
Slug
Windcharger

This is not saying the ones towards the bottom are bad, but the ones up at the top are far more fun. The top 3 really are awesome figures, and Rodimus Prime has become my favorite PotP figure to date!

ExciKaiser wrote:

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:https://i.imgur.com/Ti1myRf.png
https://i.imgur.com/i9qlHDa.png
https://i.imgur.com/ObsfaN6.png
https://i.imgur.com/B4UacM7.png

Some fun I was having with him last night

Just a tip according your pics : The small bot knees can tab inside what become the shoulders. It looks like you didn't force enough. Once done the shoulders are at a 90° angle.

Thanks! But I actually prefer the shoulders as they are

william-james88 wrote:

This rocks!

Lunatic Prime wrote:

Hotconvoy wrote:That would be galvatron. Galvtronus is the cyclonus combiner. Fyi

Galvatron's former name was Galvatronus in the old days in the IDW comics.
And Arcee is his sister
(We definitely need a smiley/emoticon for a mind explosion)

Have to jump in here: wrong. In IDW, Galvatron was always Galvatron. He named a combiner he made Galvatronus, but he was always named Galvatron. and Arcee was his brother before Jhiaxus.