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Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

Postby Sabrblade » Wed May 09, 2018 10:54 am

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The BotCon release was Hasbro's attempt to Ratchet out in the U.S. Blast Off's a brand new mold altogether that Hasbro never touched before now, while Ratchet was all Hasbro's doing in the first place. They just gave it to Fun Pub to release at BotCon since they weren't gonna put it out themselves. Same goes for CW Reflector, CW Counterpunch, and the CW Nemesis Prime head that got used for Toxitron.
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Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

Postby gothsaurus » Wed May 09, 2018 11:01 am

Sounds like you have the inside scoop on Hasbro's and Botcon's actual intentions... AND that they have no current interest in putting it out to the actual "masses".

I think this would be a real shame, since Ratchet is a MUCH more popular and integral character than Toxitron or the others... and considering the very small numbers in the custom class. I would hardly consider that successfully "getting the toy out to the USA market."

I hope they reconsider and find a way to (eventually) get that great sculpt out to more people than the handful in the class.
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Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

Postby Sabrblade » Wed May 09, 2018 11:19 am

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Fun Pub originally had different ideas in mind for what was gonna be the custom class figure and the troop builder set for BotCon 2016, until Hasbro gave them the Ratchet tooling and told them to release it as Ratchet. Their original plans were for the troop builder to be the SG Autotroopers seen in the "Another Light" comic storyline, which would have been made from CW Offroad and likely would have used the still-unused Hoist headsculpt that was pretooled for the CW Trailbreaker version of the mold, while the custom class figure was gonna be the Autotroopers' leader SG Checkpoint, also made from the Offroad mold but using the Trailbreaker head. This is why custom class Ratchet mold ended up with a black combiner peg, as both Checkpoint and the Autotroopers had mostly white bodies with black combiner pegs.

Hasbro likewise gave Fun Pub the toolings for Reflector, Counterpunch, and Nemesis Prime and told Fun Pub to use them as well since Hasbro themselves weren't going to do so, hence the troop builder set for BotCon 2016 became the Reflector 3-pack, while the other two were gonna get put in the final subscription service assortment. But then, e-HOBBY did their UW Grand Scourge release, so Fun Pub had to change their plans from Hasbro's intention of a CW Nemesis Prime into a CW Toxitron instead since Nemesis would have been too redundantly similar to Grand Scourge.

Fortunately, it seems Hasbro saw fit to take the CW Nemesis Prime head's digital mock-up and reapplied it to make the new but similar-looking headsculpt for POTP Nemesis Prime.
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Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

Postby gothsaurus » Wed May 09, 2018 11:28 am

Thanks for the behind the scenes info, Sabrblade. I love hearing about this stuff.

I really wish they'd have gotten that Hoist out, too... and the cool set of Checkpoint and Autotroopers. Don't know why, but I always have REALLY loved the character and look of Checkpoint. I've done customs of him, actually.

And yeah, I think a lot of fans don't understand the politics and dance that goes on behind the scenes of trying to secure molds and characters for a convention set. There's so much push and pull, dropped ideas and sets, foibles by the factory...

It makes me really grateful for the successful and beautiful sets and figures we HAVE gotten, and where the club and convention filled in gaps in our collections and in the lore. I do really miss those guys — and Botcon.

Also makes me really regret that our fandom is so splintered (BW, Bayverse, etc.) — and so very contrary and hard to please. I can't imagine it being an easy job.
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Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

Postby Sabrblade » Wed May 09, 2018 11:49 am

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gothsaurus wrote:It makes me really grateful for the successful and beautiful sets and figures we HAVE gotten, and where the club and convention filled in gaps in our collections and in the lore. I do really miss those guys — and Botcon.
There's always RoboCon, now. ;)
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Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

Postby gothsaurus » Wed May 09, 2018 11:54 am

You talking about Pete's RoboCon? Because I'm already registered and locked in for all the classes! :-D Hope to see you there!!
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Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

Postby Agamemnon » Wed May 09, 2018 2:54 pm

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D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Nemesis Prime (amazon)
Wreck-Gar (Walgreens)
shuttle Blastoff (Amazon)
Punch/Counterpunch (Amazon)
Repugnus (amazon)


We know thanks to listings from ACD Distribution that Repugnus and Blast Off won't be exclusive to any one store. They're probably the closest to May Mayhem we're getting in this block of exclusives.

Emerje

This post from Emerje got lost in the shuffle. But I wanted to point out some potential bad news. I looked at the pricing of Repugnus ($9.99 from the link) and Blast-off ($29.99 from the link). This would seem to suggest that Repugnus is still his Titan Master version and not a deluxe remold. So, then I would have to ask why this is an exclusive to May Mayhem...?

Maybe the ACD Dist site has old pricing info from the Titan Master version? Just food for thought...
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Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

Postby Emerje » Wed May 09, 2018 3:08 pm

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Agamemnon wrote:
Emerje wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Nemesis Prime (amazon)
Wreck-Gar (Walgreens)
shuttle Blastoff (Amazon)
Punch/Counterpunch (Amazon)
Repugnus (amazon)


We know thanks to listings from ACD Distribution that Repugnus and Blast Off won't be exclusive to any one store. They're probably the closest to May Mayhem we're getting in this block of exclusives.

Emerje

This post from Emerje got lost in the shuffle. But I wanted to point out some potential bad news. I looked at the pricing of Repugnus ($9.99 from the link) and Blast-off ($29.99 from the link). This would seem to suggest that Repugnus is still his Titan Master version and not a deluxe remold. So, then I would have to ask why this is an exclusive to May Mayhem...?

Maybe the ACD Dist site has old pricing info from the Titan Master version? Just food for thought...

That's wholesale pricing, not the retail price. Blast Off was also listed as $9.99 at one point as well, but they changed it when they tripled the quantity (from 6 to 18).

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Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

Postby Wolfman Jake » Wed May 09, 2018 3:24 pm

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Emerje wrote:
Agamemnon wrote:
Emerje wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Nemesis Prime (amazon)
Wreck-Gar (Walgreens)
shuttle Blastoff (Amazon)
Punch/Counterpunch (Amazon)
Repugnus (amazon)


We know thanks to listings from ACD Distribution that Repugnus and Blast Off won't be exclusive to any one store. They're probably the closest to May Mayhem we're getting in this block of exclusives.

Emerje

This post from Emerje got lost in the shuffle. But I wanted to point out some potential bad news. I looked at the pricing of Repugnus ($9.99 from the link) and Blast-off ($29.99 from the link). This would seem to suggest that Repugnus is still his Titan Master version and not a deluxe remold. So, then I would have to ask why this is an exclusive to May Mayhem...?

Maybe the ACD Dist site has old pricing info from the Titan Master version? Just food for thought...

That's wholesale pricing, not the retail price. Blast Off was also listed as $9.99 at one point as well, but they changed it when they tripled the quantity (from 6 to 18).

Emerje


Also, Titan Masters have/had an MSRP of 4.99 USD. 9.99 USD is the price of a Legends sized figure.
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Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

Postby Agamemnon » Wed May 09, 2018 3:29 pm

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Wolfman Jake wrote:
Emerje wrote:
Agamemnon wrote:
Emerje wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Nemesis Prime (amazon)
Wreck-Gar (Walgreens)
shuttle Blastoff (Amazon)
Punch/Counterpunch (Amazon)
Repugnus (amazon)


We know thanks to listings from ACD Distribution that Repugnus and Blast Off won't be exclusive to any one store. They're probably the closest to May Mayhem we're getting in this block of exclusives.

Emerje

This post from Emerje got lost in the shuffle. But I wanted to point out some potential bad news. I looked at the pricing of Repugnus ($9.99 from the link) and Blast-off ($29.99 from the link). This would seem to suggest that Repugnus is still his Titan Master version and not a deluxe remold. So, then I would have to ask why this is an exclusive to May Mayhem...?

Maybe the ACD Dist site has old pricing info from the Titan Master version? Just food for thought...

That's wholesale pricing, not the retail price. Blast Off was also listed as $9.99 at one point as well, but they changed it when they tripled the quantity (from 6 to 18).

Emerje


Also, Titan Masters have/had an MSRP of 4.99 USD. 9.99 USD is the price of a Legends sized figure.

Is the MSRP of Deluxe $29.99? :shock:

I feel old. I swear it wasn't that long ago that deluxes were like six or seven bucks... #-o
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Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

Postby o.supreme » Wed May 09, 2018 3:33 pm

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Agamemnon wrote:Is the MSRP of Deluxe $29.99? :shock:

I feel old. I swear it wasn't that long ago that deluxes were like six or seven bucks... #-o


it's $19.99 for Generations deluxe, though most retailers have them for between $16-17. It's been seemingly going up a "dollar per year" (in my mind at least) T30 deluxes were seemingly $14.99, and that was 5 years ago.
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Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

Postby Agamemnon » Wed May 09, 2018 3:45 pm

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o.supreme wrote:
Agamemnon wrote:Is the MSRP of Deluxe $29.99? :shock:

I feel old. I swear it wasn't that long ago that deluxes were like six or seven bucks... #-o


it's $19.99 for Generations deluxe, though most retailers have them for between $16-17. It's been seemingly going up a "dollar per year" (in my mind at least) T30 deluxes were seemingly $14.99, and that was 5 years ago.

Right, but I think the argument against this being a listing for TM Repugnus instead of a Deluxe remold was that the price of $9.99 wasn't right for TMs, and was appropriate for Legends. Yet, the Deluxe Blast-Off is listed as MSRP $29.99, which seems very high.

I was trying to make this point in a slightly humorous way so as not to seem to be attacking anyone's position on the info at the ACD Dist site. 'Tis very confusing, and I guess we'll know soon enough...
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Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Wed May 09, 2018 3:56 pm

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Emerje wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Nemesis Prime (amazon)
Wreck-Gar (Walgreens)
shuttle Blastoff (Amazon)
Punch/Counterpunch (Amazon)
Repugnus (amazon)


We know thanks to listings from ACD Distribution that Repugnus and Blast Off won't be exclusive to any one store. They're probably the closest to May Mayhem we're getting in this block of exclusives.

Emerje

This post from Emerje got lost in the shuffle. But I wanted to point out some potential bad news. I looked at the pricing of Repugnus ($9.99 from the link) and Blast-off ($29.99 from the link). This would seem to suggest that Repugnus is still his Titan Master version and not a deluxe remold. So, then I would have to ask why this is an exclusive to May Mayhem...?

Maybe the ACD Dist site has old pricing info from the Titan Master version? Just food for thought...

The listing also calls Repugnus out as a deluxe (DLX), so he is the deluxe, just wonky pricing
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Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

Postby JelZe GoldRabbit » Wed May 09, 2018 4:20 pm

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D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
Agamemnon wrote:
Emerje wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Nemesis Prime (amazon)
Wreck-Gar (Walgreens)
shuttle Blastoff (Amazon)
Punch/Counterpunch (Amazon)
Repugnus (amazon)


We know thanks to listings from ACD Distribution that Repugnus and Blast Off won't be exclusive to any one store. They're probably the closest to May Mayhem we're getting in this block of exclusives.

Emerje

This post from Emerje got lost in the shuffle. But I wanted to point out some potential bad news. I looked at the pricing of Repugnus ($9.99 from the link) and Blast-off ($29.99 from the link). This would seem to suggest that Repugnus is still his Titan Master version and not a deluxe remold. So, then I would have to ask why this is an exclusive to May Mayhem...?

Maybe the ACD Dist site has old pricing info from the Titan Master version? Just food for thought...

The listing also calls Repugnus out as a deluxe (DLX), so he is the deluxe, just wonky pricing


Blast Off's price should be on par with Arcee and Grotusque, since he comes with a bonus Prime Master, a clear redeco of Megatronus. No confirmed Decoy Suit/Pretender Shell tho.
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Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

Postby Emerje » Fri May 11, 2018 7:14 am

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Again, it's WHOLESALE PRICING, not RETAIL PRICING. It's $9.99 per figure in a set of 6 for Repugnus and 29.99 for 3 figures in a set of 18 for Blast Off (I have no idea why they set it up this way, originally both were priced the same way). Why is this so hard to understand, I thought I was being clear about this in my last post? These are the prices that a retailer would pay (before expensive bulk shipping) and then mark up for profit, probably $20 (MSRP on PotP is $16.99) since they'll be carded rather than in elaborate packaging (we've already seen Blast Off's backer card), and the included Prime Masters aren't die cast.

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Transformers Power of the Primes Autobot Outback and Cindersaur Listed Online!

Postby WreckerJack » Sat May 12, 2018 3:03 pm

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Fans of Power of the Primes will be happy to know that two new legends class figures have been listed online. A quick thanks to westjames/notirish for letting us know. Autobot Outback and Cindersaur now have their own pages on Amazon. While they are not yet available for purchase we hope that they will be soon. It is nice to see the colors and details used on these figures. Fans can appreciate the colorful and well formed headsculpts too. While you are waiting we have some images of them below to check out. If you have not already seen it, Machinima's Power of the Primes episode 2 is up online now.

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Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

Postby Black Hat » Sat May 12, 2018 3:16 pm

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Outback looks as I'd expect him to, probably won't bother but he looks cool.

Cindersaur is either a girl or a very girly boy if I get him/her now. I kinda wish the dino mode was more like the old Firecon "Lump monster" style, but nothing a bit of Shapeways can't fix.

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Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

Postby Burn » Sat May 12, 2018 3:19 pm

Black Hat wrote:Outback looks as I'd expect him to, probably won't bother but he looks cool.

You're just saying that because he's Australian ... I'm onto you! Image
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Postby Black Hat » Sat May 12, 2018 3:27 pm

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Black Hat wrote:Outback looks as I'd expect him to, probably won't bother but he looks cool.

You're just saying that because he's Australian ... I'm onto you! Image

Nah, he's a neat toy (I assume, I never did get Brawn) but I have zero attachment to him. Also in my demented headcanon/collection "backstory", Skullcruncher is the local s**tposting Aussie. Though saying that, more 'Strayans bringing the banter can never be a bad thing.

...Hmmm. I might have to get him after all...
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Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

Postby Burn » Sat May 12, 2018 3:36 pm

Brawn is a fantastic figure, you should get both.

As for Skullcruncher ... Skullsmasher ... whatever he's called this week, I always took him to be an Alligator. It's hard to tell from his nose as it's a bit of a blend between Croc and Gator.
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Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

Postby ZeroWolf » Sat May 12, 2018 4:34 pm

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Cindersaur is rocking those colours, will have to keep an eye out
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Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

Postby Mkall » Sat May 12, 2018 4:41 pm

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Cindersaur is meh, but there's no others out there yet. I'm hoping Sparkstalker and Flamefeather will be done at some point.
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Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

Postby DMSL » Sat May 12, 2018 4:46 pm

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Outback should have had the gun, but i will still get him. Cindersaur can stay on the pegs, don't care for the mold, it is horrid.
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Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

Postby Ultra Markus » Sat May 12, 2018 9:37 pm

Motto: "“You either die a hero or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain.” - Harvey Dent in The Dark Knight"
Weapon: Laser Rifle
i wish Outback came with his big gun like the original
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Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

Postby Flashwave » Sat May 12, 2018 10:36 pm

Motto: "Our society's downfall will not be this war. The war IS our society. That which will get us will be the little things. Some humanoid race, some tossed cannon, the little things that no one looks out for. THAT is for what we must be vigilant."
Weapon: Twin Shoulder-Mounted Rocket Launchers
Ultra Markus wrote:i wish Outback came with his big gun like the original
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Nonnef Productions has a 6 pack of guns he made for the Generations Minibots for lime 15 bucks or so, plus a few bucks postage. Would be nice if Hasbro included it from the get go, but if you dont mind add ons, you could do worse. These are jot the crappy Shapeways prints by any stretch
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