The Energon Pub

[WreckerJack]

Was thinking of this image from a bit ago.

I would be interested to see the desgin process of TF toys and how they go from that to the finished figure. I know lego does a bunch of videos on their desgin methods. Perhaps the reason is that Hasbro's competitors and 3rd party stuff is more successful than any of lego's competitors. (other that TF Kreo, who needs any other bricks?)

[ZeroWolf]

I would have thought that hasbro and the third party would had similar design methodologies when it came to figures, especially where the third party contains ex-hasbro employees.

Still, I don't see any harm in holding out to see if weapons and spiked fists are coming as long as you know that the odds are definitely not in you favour. Fits my saying though aim low, strike high.

[DMSL]

For $ 150,- this better not have stickers.

I don't think the price is too high, but cutting corners makes me feel underappreciated as a consumer. No sword, no guns, no spikes on the hands, come on Hasbro step up and go the extra mile for a change.

[Vic Zanzibar]

The level of nitpicking here is utterly ridiculous. Fist spikes? That seriously bothers y’all? Wow.

[DMSL]

The level of nitpicking here is utterly ridiculous. Fist spikes? That seriously bothers y’all? Wow.

You are forgetting people also complain about the lack of weapons. While the spikes are a nitpick it just adds to the frustration that Hasbro is cutting corners. I doubt the lack of spikes would be the cause of a huge debate if the set came with weapons.

[SpikeyTigertron]

The level of nitpicking here is utterly ridiculous. Fist spikes? That seriously bothers y’all? Wow.

Blame it on the art/G1 figure. It’s the idea that they present an image of a character ( and his fists are rather unique into him). But given the fact of no swords, yeah a little extra plastic on the fists would be appreciated. I wouldn’t even care if they were blunted.

Also nobody’s talked about the arm cannon i’m sure that’d hollow shell of plastic. Even the G1 had a transformation to it.

The idea of “cutting corners” when you get above the $120 mark bothers me: like takara didnweigh devastator.... spend the extra $20 and do it right (or at least well).

[SpikeyTigertron]

Also just realized why (rampage?) the panther and dive bomb look off.... the shoulders are part of their beast/robot modes.... interesting.

Also i noticed the cannon breaks down into two parts. So that and dive bomb’s pistol makes 4. Maybe the feet can turn into something or have a hidden handle like devistator’s fists?

[DMSL]

Upon further inspection, it does look like Predaking's gun is formed by the three guns Rampage, Razorclaw and Divebomb are holding in one of the pictures. Hopefully the other two members will be able to wield the feet as cannons. It would be great if the set comes with a sword but that it is still in development or something.

[padfoo]

I am amazed at the size of the new bots compared to the originals. They are almost the same size. I still like this Predaking, its a definite buy for me. Like Devastator it'll fit in with the masterpiece figures.

[Jelze Bunnycat]

It looks like 3 of the 5 will at least have weapons. The lack of sword, even a light saber type deal, is disappointing.

The weapon count from what I can tell from the images of both Toy Fairs:

Razorclaw: 1, doubles as back of Predaking's gun
Rampage: 1, doubles as tail and as front of Predaking's gun
Divebomb: 2, double as Predaking shoulder cannons

[Brokebot]

My thoughts are that has a lot more bulk that his component parts seem to possess. Where is his lower torso and thighs coming from? Extra parts?

[Jelze Bunnycat]

My thoughts are that has a lot more bulk that his component parts seem to possess. Where is his lower torso and thighs coming from? Extra parts?

Headstrong and Torox/Tantrum form the whole leg this time around, including the thigh, those just hang off their backs or the underside of their Beast Modes. Razorclaw is filleted open and turned inside out, lastly Divebomb and Rampage have the sides and shoulders attached to them, like how the treads on Scavenger and Bonecrusher attach to Devastator.

[Acesmcgee]

Staring at the portraiture on the top of the box, it looks like Headstrong and Tantrum have some sort of shoulder mounted cannon, possibly the foot pegged on to their arms?

[Flashwave]

Second impression of Predaking is that comparisons to G1 aside, I am excited for a big, offical (affordable) Predaking. I do want this

[X3ROhour]

I don't buy third-party stuff anymore, but I wouldn't be opposed to getting a set of swords for Predaking (and I'm sure someone started designing them as soon as he/she found out the set hasn't any swords).

Y NO 3RD PARTY?

[X3ROhour]

meh.

i think ill keep working on my MMC FERAL REX

[Emerje]

I don't buy third-party stuff anymore, but I wouldn't be opposed to getting a set of swords for Predaking (and I'm sure someone started designing them as soon as he/she found out the set hasn't any swords).

Y NO 3RD PARTY?

Some of us don't like supporting thieves and their knockoffs.

That said, I don't have a problem with add-ons since I consider things like fists and weapons generic. If someone makes a decent gun set or fists (just not the ugly ones with every joint articulated) I might be interested.

Emerje

[Evil Eye]

I don't buy third-party stuff anymore, but I wouldn't be opposed to getting a set of swords for Predaking (and I'm sure someone started designing them as soon as he/she found out the set hasn't any swords).

Y NO 3RD PARTY?

Some of us don't like supporting thieves and their knockoffs.

Hope you're prepared to burn any fanart you own then.

[TF-fan kev777]

I don't buy third-party stuff anymore, but I wouldn't be opposed to getting a set of swords for Predaking (and I'm sure someone started designing them as soon as he/she found out the set hasn't any swords).

Y NO 3RD PARTY?

Some of us don't like supporting thieves and their knockoffs.

Hope you're prepared to burn any fanart you own then.

I believe that would depend on what the fanart was, who made it and if anyone profited off of it. You or I or anyone can make our own drawings of trademarked or copyrighted figures, shows, whatever, as long as it is for personal enjoyment and not being sold. As soon as you try to sell it, then the various copyright laws would apply. *Disclaimer* I am not a legal expert of these matters, that is just the general consensus I've heard from similar discussions on transformers and other items in the past.

[Burn]

Shelve the 3P talk. If people don't support 3P products, that's their business. Now move on.

[D-Maximal_Primal]

I'm hoping that there is an SDCC version coming. I need a giant sword for Predaking, I will spend more to get an SDCC for a sword

[Emerje]

I'm hoping that there is an SDCC version coming. I need a giant sword for Predaking, I will spend more to get an SDCC for a sword

I just hope if there is an SDCC version they announce it ahead of the retail version showing up in stores. They tend to keep these things quite until just before the con and this whole line so far has been showing up early.

Emerje

[D-Maximal_Primal]

I'm hoping that there is an SDCC version coming. I need a giant sword for Predaking, I will spend more to get an SDCC for a sword

I just hope if there is an SDCC version they announce it ahead of the retail version showing up in stores. They tend to keep these things quite until just before the con and this whole line so far has been showing up early.

Emerje

I ain't paying full price for this version, so it's not that big a deal to me

[Emerje]

I'm hoping that there is an SDCC version coming. I need a giant sword for Predaking, I will spend more to get an SDCC for a sword

I just hope if there is an SDCC version they announce it ahead of the retail version showing up in stores. They tend to keep these things quite until just before the con and this whole line so far has been showing up early.

Emerje

I ain't paying full price for this version, so it's not that big a deal to me

Me either, not when I can get it for half off at Christmas.

Emerje

[Jelze Bunnycat]

I'm hoping that there is an SDCC version coming. I need a giant sword for Predaking, I will spend more to get an SDCC for a sword

I just hope if there is an SDCC version they announce it ahead of the retail version showing up in stores. They tend to keep these things quite until just before the con and this whole line so far has been showing up early.

Emerje

I ain't paying full price for this version, so it's not that big a deal to me

Me either, not when I can get it for half off at Christmas.

Emerje

... if scalpers don't beat you to it.