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News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Sun Feb 15, 2015 2:56 pm

Sodan-1 wrote:I might go ahead and pick up the Mini-Cons, as they're a little different and quite cool looking. The Deployers don't appeal to me in the slightest and the new play-style is beyond weak.

It's not as new as you think: FoC Soundwave and Blaster have the same gimmick, especially with the Mini-Cons being more like their little buddies.

News Credits: 4 · by **Tsutsukakushi** » Sun Feb 15, 2015 4:06 pm

I've got a few questions about this Rid toy.

What is the bigger non minicon toy's name? is it Fracture or Airazor?

How big is the non minicon toy? Deluxe class or Voyager Class?

What is HasTak calling the vechicle mode for the bigger non minicon toy? Please don't say deployer as that's the gimmick.

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Sun Feb 15, 2015 4:11 pm

Tsutsukakushi wrote:I've got a few questions about this Rid toy.

What is the bigger non minicon toy's name? is it Fracture or Airazor?

How big is the non minicon toy? Deluxe class or Voyager Class?

What is HasTak calling the vechicle mode for the bigger non minicon toy? Please don't say deployer as that's the gimmick.

Fracture, Voyager Class, hover bike.

News Credits: 226 · by **Burn** » Sun Feb 15, 2015 4:34 pm

I was content to pretty much give this line a miss, but damn ... those minicons look too good to pass up.

News Credits: 1 · by **Sodan-1** » Sun Feb 15, 2015 4:36 pm

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Sodan-1 wrote:I might go ahead and pick up the Mini-Cons, as they're a little different and quite cool looking. The Deployers don't appeal to me in the slightest and the new play-style is beyond weak.

It's not as new as you think: FoC Soundwave and Blaster have the same gimmick, especially with the Mini-Cons being more like their little buddies.

It's not the same gimmick, though. Not entirely. The internal storage and automatic transformation of Rewind, Frenzy and company is what made them special to me. These Mini-Con are more like spring-launched projectiles that happen to transform. I don't know whether to view them as poor functioning weapons or broken Bot Shots.

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Sun Feb 15, 2015 4:43 pm

Sodan-1 wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Sodan-1 wrote:I might go ahead and pick up the Mini-Cons, as they're a little different and quite cool looking. The Deployers don't appeal to me in the slightest and the new play-style is beyond weak.

It's not as new as you think: FoC Soundwave and Blaster have the same gimmick, especially with the Mini-Cons being more like their little buddies.

It's not the same gimmick, though. Not entirely. The internal storage and automatic transformation of Rewind, Frenzy and company is what made them special to me. These Mini-Con are more like spring-launched projectiles that happen to transform. I don't know whether to view them as poor functioning weapons or broken Bot Shots.

I view them as a de-evolution of Gen. Rumble, Frenzy and co.: all transform into the same shape and can be shot out, they just don't have a springloaded transformation. :lol:

News Credits: 1 · by **Sodan-1** » Sun Feb 15, 2015 5:08 pm

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Sodan-1 wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Sodan-1 wrote:I might go ahead and pick up the Mini-Cons, as they're a little different and quite cool looking. The Deployers don't appeal to me in the slightest and the new play-style is beyond weak.

It's not as new as you think: FoC Soundwave and Blaster have the same gimmick, especially with the Mini-Cons being more like their little buddies.

It's not the same gimmick, though. Not entirely. The internal storage and automatic transformation of Rewind, Frenzy and company is what made them special to me. These Mini-Con are more like spring-launched projectiles that happen to transform. I don't know whether to view them as poor functioning weapons or broken Bot Shots.

I view them as a de-evolution of Gen. Rumble, Frenzy and co.: all transform into the same shape and can be shot out, they just don't have a springloaded transformation.

That's fair, but as a de-evolution I just can't help but think 'what's the point'? I suppose you could accuse me of over thinking it, but once you fire off a projectile you generally don't interact with it much. Otherwise what's the point of it being a projectile?

News Credits: 7 · by **Zeedust** » Sun Feb 15, 2015 7:49 pm

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:I view them as a de-evolution of Gen. Rumble, Frenzy and co.: all transform into the same shape and can be shot out, they just don't have a springloaded transformation.

Except judging from the video, these things can actually shoot properly instead of jamming in the chest.

News Credits: 41 · by **Cobotron** » Sun Feb 15, 2015 9:26 pm

These minicons look fun with all their energon accessories. For $5 bucks a pop, I'll check 'em out. Especially the animals.

News Credits: 4835 · by **william-james88** » Sun Feb 15, 2015 10:58 pm

Tsutsukakushi wrote:I've got a few questions about this Rid toy.

What is the bigger non minicon toy's name? is it Fracture or Airazor?

How big is the non minicon toy? Deluxe class or Voyager Class?

What is HasTak calling the vechicle mode for the bigger non minicon toy? Please don't say deployer as that's the gimmick.

You might be asking nicely, but it doesn't change the fact that these things are officially called Minicon Deployers. here's the official Hasbro description of what they are called:

TRANSFORMERS: ROBOTS IN DISGUISE MINI-CON DEPLOYERS
(Ages 6 years & up/Approx. Retail Price: $19.99/Available: Fall 2015)
DEPLOYERS figures team with exclusive deployable MINI-CON figures to demolish enemies! Pick a side and choose a warrior: AUTOBOT DRIFT or DECEPTICON FRACTURE. Each DEPLOYERS figure comes with one MINI-CON figure that it can deploy into battle! DEPLOYERS figures convert from robot to vehicle in less than 10 steps. Their MINI-CON teammates convert in just one. AUTOBOT DRIFT figure works with all buzzsaw-shaped MINI-CON figures. DECEPTICON FRACTURE figure works with all torpedo-shaped MINI-CON figures. Collect and deploy! Take the action to your mobile device.
Download the TRANSFORMERS: ROBOTS IN DISGUISE app to your digital device, then scan the shield to unlock a character or weapons or more!

Also, they arent voyager size, they are more like the old Beast Wars Mega size, so just a tad bit bigger than a deluxe.

News Credits: 4 · by **Tsutsukakushi** » Sun Feb 15, 2015 11:28 pm

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Tsutsukakushi wrote:I've got a few questions about this Rid toy.

What is the bigger non minicon toy's name? is it Fracture or Airazor?

How big is the non minicon toy? Deluxe class or Voyager Class?

What is HasTak calling the vechicle mode for the bigger non minicon toy? Please don't say deployer as that's the gimmick.

Fracture, Voyager Class, hover bike.

Thanks for all the Information.

News Credits: 4 · by **Tsutsukakushi** » Mon Feb 16, 2015 3:44 am

These Rid Minicons look interesting but probably won't buy any.

News Credits: 331 · by **chuckdawg1999** » Mon Feb 16, 2015 4:29 am

Anybody hear the rumor that Jazz is a heavy retool of Prime Deluxe Bumblebee? Personally I hope it's a retool of Hot Shot since that version of the mold had the gears in the neck fixed so the head would lay flat. Sideswipe looks really good but that Ultimate Prime looks exactly like the Hyperchange figure. I can maybe see one or two new parts.

News Credits: 4835 · by **william-james88** » Mon Feb 16, 2015 9:01 am

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Anybody hear the rumor that Jazz is a heavy retool of Prime Deluxe Bumblebee? Personally I hope it's a retool of Hot Shot since that version of the mold had the gears in the neck fixed so the head would lay flat. Sideswipe looks really good but that Ultimate Prime looks exactly like the Hyperchange figure. I can maybe see one or two new parts.

Yeah, he's definitely been oversized. The new added parts are mostly to accomodate Minicons.

News Credits: 4835 · by **william-james88** » Mon Feb 16, 2015 9:02 am

Tsutsukakushi wrote:These Rid Minicons look interesting but probably won't buy any.

I'll get them when they are discounted. I dont feel the urge to also purchase the Minicon Deployers though, I dont feel the mechanism is worth playing with at my age (it looks very archaic). The minicons look good on their own, especially the animal ones.

News Credits: 4 · by **King Kuuga** » Tue Feb 17, 2015 7:27 pm

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Anybody hear the rumor that Jazz is a heavy retool of Prime Deluxe Bumblebee? Personally I hope it's a retool of Hot Shot since that version of the mold had the gears in the neck fixed so the head would lay flat. Sideswipe looks really good but that Ultimate Prime looks exactly like the Hyperchange figure. I can maybe see one or two new parts.

I'm not seeing it.

News Credits: 4835 · by **william-james88** » Tue Feb 17, 2015 8:31 pm

That Bot wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:Anybody hear the rumor that Jazz is a heavy retool of Prime Deluxe Bumblebee? Personally I hope it's a retool of Hot Shot since that version of the mold had the gears in the neck fixed so the head would lay flat. Sideswipe looks really good but that Ultimate Prime looks exactly like the Hyperchange figure. I can maybe see one or two new parts.

I'm not seeing it.

Not seeing what? He's referring to these two toys by the way:

News Credits: 4835 · by **william-james88** » Tue Feb 17, 2015 10:56 pm

I feel like an idiot typing this down because this really shouldnt bother me, but it does. Thunderhoof has a very interesting design and it's obvious that the designers made the vehicle mode have a rake in the front so that it would become the antlers in robot mode. But this one step changer doesnt care, it just has both and on top of one another. I wouldnt have cared if the rake looked more like antlers or the antlers looked more like a rake but having both cancels eachout and results in a dumb mess:

I hate seeing designs just wasted like this. I am really hoping for a warrior class in wave two.

News Credits: 41 · by **Cobotron** » Tue Feb 17, 2015 11:04 pm

So far he has been the one character I have been most excited about. I too was disappointed when I saw that stop drop flippity flop toy. Here's to hoping he gets a warrior class treatment.

News Credits: 293 · by **shajaki** » Tue Feb 17, 2015 11:36 pm

Cobotron wrote::lol: So far he has been the one character I have been most excited about. I too was disappointed when I saw that stop drop flippity flop toy. Here's to hoping he gets a warrior class treatment.

i know! when i first saw the pic i was all "sweeet!" cause i assumed it was warrior class. then i was all "awwwww" when i dropped my icecream

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Tue Feb 17, 2015 11:42 pm

I'm more looking forward to Steeljaw since he's gonna take it upon himself to step up as leader and build up an army by recruiting/forcing the other Cons to join with him. Whereas the other Cons seem to be just upon to random mischief or personal gain, he's the one seeing the bigger picture and trying to plan out a long term strategy, as though he sees how just going about and doing whatever he wants like the other Cons appear to be doing is pointless and ineffective.

News Credits: 4835 · by **william-james88** » Tue Feb 17, 2015 11:50 pm

Sabrblade wrote:I'm more looking forward to Steeljaw since he's gonna take it upon himself to step up as leader and build up an army by recruiting/forcing the other Cons to join with him. Whereas the other Cons seem to be just upon to random mischief or personal gain, he's the one seeing the bigger picture and trying to plan out a long term strategy, as though he sees how just going about and doing whatever he wants like the other Cons appear to be doing is pointless and ineffective.

I think Cobotron and Shajaki were more referring to just the character design and possibility for a toy.

News Credits: 4 · by **King Kuuga** » Tue Feb 17, 2015 11:55 pm

william-james88 wrote:
That Bot wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:Anybody hear the rumor that Jazz is a heavy retool of Prime Deluxe Bumblebee? Personally I hope it's a retool of Hot Shot since that version of the mold had the gears in the neck fixed so the head would lay flat. Sideswipe looks really good but that Ultimate Prime looks exactly like the Hyperchange figure. I can maybe see one or two new parts.

I'm not seeing it.

Not seeing what? He's referring to these two toys by the way:

http://static.seibertron.com/images/toy ... 1_rid1.jpg

http://cdn.tfw2005.com/transformers-new ... 964293.jpg

Whoops, I should have clarified. I meant I'm not seeing Jazz as a retool of PRID Bumblebee. I compared the two and I don't see much in the way of similarities.

News Credits: 41 · by **Cobotron** » Wed Feb 18, 2015 12:04 am

william-james88 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:I'm more looking forward to Steeljaw since he's gonna take it upon himself to step up as leader and build up an army by recruiting/forcing the other Cons to join with him. Whereas the other Cons seem to be just upon to random mischief or personal gain, he's the one seeing the bigger picture and trying to plan out a long term strategy, as though he sees how just going about and doing whatever he wants like the other Cons appear to be doing is pointless and ineffective.

I think Cobotron and Shajaki were more referring to just the character design and possibility for a toy.

Ya, the whole stag thing ices the cake for me. In fact thats the first I've seen of his alt mode. He's a tractor? Pppphhhhhhh, AWESOME! I'm down with that mischief.

I would hope that some day someone does a green and yellow repaint, of old Johny boy there. :lol:

News Credits: 331 · by **chuckdawg1999** » Wed Feb 18, 2015 1:19 am

That Bot wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
That Bot wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:Anybody hear the rumor that Jazz is a heavy retool of Prime Deluxe Bumblebee? Personally I hope it's a retool of Hot Shot since that version of the mold had the gears in the neck fixed so the head would lay flat. Sideswipe looks really good but that Ultimate Prime looks exactly like the Hyperchange figure. I can maybe see one or two new parts.

I'm not seeing it.

Not seeing what? He's referring to these two toys by the way:

http://static.seibertron.com/images/toy ... 1_rid1.jpg

http://cdn.tfw2005.com/transformers-new ... 964293.jpg

Whoops, I should have clarified. I meant I'm not seeing Jazz as a retool of PRID Bumblebee. I compared the two and I don't see much in the way of similarities.

Look at the arms and shoulders. They're identical to Bumblebee's. Jazz also has that flap behind his head. It kinda makes sense they would re-use the mold since it has to be a simplified toy.