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Hasbro owns the series, if they say he's Megatron upgraded, he's Megatron updated even if the fiction says otherwise. Consider it another Armada Thundercracker, where the toy is Thundercracker, complete with new bio, but on the show he's just Starscream upgraded. Obviously you're free to consider the toy whatever you want if/when you buy it.

Optimum Supreme wrote:Hasbro owns the series, if they say he's Megatron upgraded, he's Megatron updated even if the fiction says otherwise. Consider it another Armada Thundercracker, where the toy is Thundercracker, complete with new bio, but on the show he's just Starscream upgraded. Obviously you're free to consider the toy whatever you want if/when you buy it.

IT SAID IT ON THE EFFING SHOW MATE! That he's not Megatron! you obviously haven't watched the final episodes, if you haven't....go check em out & see for yourself

Optimum Supreme wrote:Hasbro owns the series, if they say he's Megatron upgraded, he's Megatron updated even if the fiction says otherwise. Consider it another Armada Thundercracker, where the toy is Thundercracker, complete with new bio, but on the show he's just Starscream upgraded. Obviously you're free to consider the toy whatever you want if/when you buy it.

Yeah, but they also own the fiction. Unless you're seriously going to say that a one-paragraph-bio that was most likely written in error takes priority in canon over their own media. That's backwards as hell.
Like, who do you think is more important? A copy-writer who barely knows what they're doing, or the writers and designers who created the character specifically to be a different character?

Listen...If he wants to believe that this version of Megatronus is Megatron........then who are we to discourage his inaccuracies, obviously we know he's wrong! in this instance + he may not have watched the final episodes yet, He'll....let's face it....even in Beast Wars he took the name Megatron(although god knows what his original name was then?).

Listen...If he wants to believe that this version of Megatronus is Megatron........then who are we to discourage his inaccuracies, obviously we know he's wrong! in this instance + he may not have watched the final episodes yet, Hell....let's face it....even in Beast Wars he took the name Megatron(although god knows what his original name was then?).

The Transformers Prime show started out with solid story telling. But it ended disjointed and confused. A confusion that was only amplified by that 'beast hunters' DVD movie, and now prolonged by the RiD show.

In the BH movie, Megatron(us) was rebuilt by Unicron, and at the end of the show, he pretty much just gave up, saying he'd 'experienced being dominated and wanted nothing to do with it anymore'. Then he just flew off into space, effectively abandoning the Decepticons.

So what has he been doing all that time? Will these episodes answer that? Did he just fly around the galaxy, 'thinking about what he'd done', like a child being told by his parents to sit in the corner?

And now that he's had a good long think - what? He's come back to start dominating again? Thinking about how bad dominating people is made him realize that he just wasn't doing it right or something? They're going to need some pretty big plugs to stop up all those plot holes they left after ending the Prime series. They never really said what happened to Starscream, or Shockwave, or Predaking, or the Predacons. And now suddenly Megatron(us) has flip-flopped yet again on his feelings about whether or not it's good to be 'dominating' others?

Save us, not from Decepticons, but from sloppy writing.

Well at the least, I hope they throw in some scenes where the other Decepticons tell Megatron(us) to take a hike. After all, he abandoned them and ditched them in a time of great need and left them to be 'dominated' by the Autobots. Steeljaw should be given a bang-up speech where he lets Megatron(us) have it for abandoning them in their hour of greatest need. Some 'leader' he turned out to be in this mythos. That is, if he even IS the same Megatron(us) from those Prime episodes. The text blurb seemed to indicate that it is, but who knows....

I'm confused, Megatron became a good guy in the end of Transformers Prime, and now, where did Megatronus come from? Idk I haven't watched 2015 RiD yet.

SillySpringer wrote:I'm confused, Megatron became a good guy in the end of Transformers Prime, and now, where did Megatronus come from? Idk I haven't watched 2015 RiD yet.

Megatronus is the Fallen and is NOT Megatron at all.

mirageandjazz1197 wrote:

SillySpringer wrote:I'm confused, Megatron became a good guy in the end of Transformers Prime, and now, where did Megatronus come from? Idk I haven't watched 2015 RiD yet.

Megatronus is the Fallen and is NOT Megatron at all.

In the Aligned continuity, The Fallen is one of the Thirteen, who turned against them for various reasons, akin to Lucifer of Christian religion. His original name was Megatronus Prime, which is where Megatron got his name from.

Stuartmaximus wrote:Here's another thing I would love (maybe not a product as of yet! but definitely would love it to be) y'know that computer search thingy that Fixit does? The Pokedex style thing! where he searches for Transformers as it flickers through hundreds of silouetted figures until he finds the one the team have came across. Well pity this feature isn't an app for Android or iPhone, as it would be pretty neat, & it would come with all the sound fx & music(used during those computer search scenes). I know the Android videogame has something like it....when you scan those symbols on the toys, but I would still like to see a sort of Transformersdex(like the pokemon one) app on Google Market

I know you mentioned the app, but have you played it? because its pretty much exactly that. With that app already existing with pretty much exactly what you are asking for, I think Hasbro feels they already have that and wont make more than that.

Maxine Prime wrote:Do we know how large that Megatronus is? He looks like he might make a nice opponent for that GINORMOUS Optimus Takara is making.

While the size seems appropriate, he looks really subpar in terms of articulation. That amazing Optimus is a fully articulated Leader toy. This one is much simpler (his legs dont even transform and he has nothing going on in his forearms for articulation). The app had said he was Ultra Class which is similar to Leader Class toys (though a little smaller).

Emerje wrote:

Madeus Prime wrote:Okay, other then that new Megatronus and some more of the tiny titan things, have we actually seen anything new for RID at botcon? I am really, really surprised Hasbro "revealed" about 90% of what we already have seen (G1 deco Grimlock? Didn't we first see that last month?). The minicons? Already debuted at toyfair I believe. This year's botcon reveals outside of the CW line has been way below par.

You can thank BotCon being so close to SDCC these days for that. When they hold Botcon in early spring (April) or later summer (September) we seem to get more out of it. The last three BotCon's have been just a couple weeks before SDCC (July 8-12) which means Hasbro has to spread stuff out more between the two cons. April is really the best time for BotCon since it's far enough from Toy Fair in February and SDCC to show some good stuff, though September is also nice since it fills the long void from SDCC to Toy Fair (since they don't show very much at NYCC).

I'm guessing that at SDCC we'll be seeing the Titan Wars stuff they teased us with at BotCon. Who knows, maybe they'll even have something to say about MP Optimus Primal since that's such an American Transformers character.

Emerje

I agree that the RID showings were very lackluster. We didnt even see the Warrior Thunderhoof (the main toy fans are looking forward to seeing).

And Emerje, is there a precedent for Hasbro covering a Takara release at a show before? Because I dont think there has ever been a year where both Hasbro and Taara released the same MP simultaneously though I may be wrong. Also, Optimus Primal is just as important in Japan as he is in the US. The Optimus Prime character himself was first introduced in the US and they are both as much American Transformer Characters, so I dont know why Primal is any different.

BB Shockwave wrote:Dissapointed if this is the best toy he has. Looks rather terrible. We need a proper Leader not these 1/3/5-step changers.

I agree but Takara showed us that if they dont have the appropriate Leader toy they want, they will make one themselves outside of Hasbro. They did it for Optimus, they can do it for Megatronus too.

I think the bio on Megatronus might be Hasbro trying to not leak plot out by saying Megatronus is the returned Megatron. The same thing happened with Grindor/Blackout in ROTF. Paramount told them they couldn't leak certain plot points through the toys and CN might be doing the same.

While this looks alright, I still want a warrior version. I need him. I liked his character and He was a cool design too. Please gimme

Oh look, another bio that conflicts with the cartoon/comic/movie/game/etc. Never seen one of those before. Truly such is a cause for alarm and crisis.

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:While this looks alright, I still want a warrior version. I need him. I liked his character and He was a cool design too. Please gimme

I really like your enthusiasm. And a warrior version is coming, it was confirmed a while ago, I just wished Hasbro could reveal them at the conventions.

Shockwave7 wrote:The Transformers Prime show started out with solid story telling. But it ended disjointed and confused. A confusion that was only amplified by that 'beast hunters' DVD movie, and now prolonged by the RiD show.

Save for two episodes in season two, the storytelling in Prime improved over the course of the series. If you found it in the very least disjointed or confusing, you either missed episodes, haven't been paying attention, or are trying desperately to connect continuity to the games and novels.

P.S: TV Movie*

In the BH movie, Megatron(us) was rebuilt by Unicron, and at the end of the show, he pretty much just gave up, saying he'd 'experienced being dominated and wanted nothing to do with it anymore'. Then he just flew off into space, effectively abandoning the Decepticons.

Arc sealed.

So what has he been doing all that time?

Who gives a good flying ****?

Did he just fly around the galaxy, 'thinking about what he'd done', like a child being told by his parents to sit in the corner? And now that he's had a good long think - what? He's come back to start dominating again? Thinking about how bad dominating people is made him realize that he just wasn't doing it right or something?

They never really said what happened to Starscream,

He died.

or Predaking, or the Predacons.

They live peacefully alongside the Autobots like Bumblebee said they wanted 15 minutes into the damned film.

And now suddenly Megatron(us) has flip-flopped yet again on his feelings about whether or not it's good to be 'dominating' others?

No. Megatronus is The Fallen, as in, the Prime. Megatron is still out in space somewhere.

Save us, not from Decepticons, but from sloppy writing.

It's a badly written bio for a toy, or have you not read any of the posts above you that were disclaiming this information as correct? This is probably how you missed half of Prime's story, too.

Well at the least, I hope they throw in some scenes where the other Decepticons tell Megatron(us) to take a hike. After all, he abandoned them and ditched them in a time of great need and left them to be 'dominated' by the Autobots. Steeljaw should be given a bang-up speech where he lets Megatron(us) have it for abandoning them in their hour of greatest need. Some 'leader' he turned out to be in this mythos. That is, if he even IS the same Megatron(us) from those Prime episodes. The text blurb seemed to indicate that it is, but who knows....

Who knows? Everyone who watched "Battlegrounds" knows. Megatronus is a Prime that's gone rogue. He's the Fallen. Megatron is the Cybertronian warlord that took his namesake. There's a bit of dialogue in the episode that tells us this:

Drift: "Fixit, is this Megatronus also known by the name Megatron?"

*Fixit searches Megatronus on the Cyber-Wikipedia or whatever*

Fixit: "No. Megatron named himself after Megatronus. Megatronus was one of the original Primes, but he turned on his brethren, destroying Solus Prime."


If I spoiled the finale for you or anyone...oops.

As far as we know, Megatron is now in a self-imposed exile. We do not know his current whereabouts or lifestyle.

Starscream was never outright killed or said to have died. Nor have the predacons been mentioned since the TV movie, so we know nothing about what happened to the Preds or Screamer. Same with Shockwave: we have no idea what happened.

but there is a chance we will find out if RiD is renewed for a season 2 or 3. It has been mentioned that other Prime characters will appear in a second season. This could explain what happened to all the other autobots from prime was well as Wave, Screamers, megs and the preds fates after the Predacons rising movie. We'll have to see. Nothing is set in stone yet.

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Starscream was never outright killed or said to have died.

Actually, (one/some of) the writers were asked what happened to Starscream, and they themselves said he was killed by the Predacons. Nothing on-screen has been mentioned, however, so they could undo this if they wanted to, but that was writers intent there.

Nor have the predacons been mentioned since the TV movie

True, but the whole goal of the Autobots and Predacons working together was so that they could peacefully coexist on Cybertron. You could logically conclude that's what became of them. The Predacons are probably just living like normal people.

Same with Shockwave: we have no idea what happened.

I believe the writers addressed Shockwave's fate as well, but I don't remember what they said about it exactly. I think they made a joke of it, if memory serves me right. The only thing I can remember from that is they said they meant for Shockwave to die in the Terrorcon Predacon scene but Hasbro executives gave them hell for it. Don't quote me on it, though, I'm going off of hazy memory about what was said for Shockwave.

Hi everyone, just reminding you guys that this thread is for the products. If you would like to talk about the show at length and plot points, the thread about the show itself is the better place to do that: the-official-transformers-robots-in-disguise-animated-series-thread-t100652.php

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Thanks to Seibertronian Bounti76 we can report that the latest Transformers Robots in Disguise One Step Changers assortment, consisting of Night Ops Bumblebee and Ninja Mode Sideswipe are hitting shelves at US retail. This fourth wave of Robots in Disguise One Steps were found at a Walmart in Centerville, Utah for $9.97 each.



You can check out our galleries of Night Ops Bumblebee and Ninja Mode Sideswipe already, and be sure to let fellow collectors know about your sightings in the Sightings tool or through your local Sightings Thread. If you find new toys at retail that you don't think we've had a front page news story on, remember to use the News Submission tool to let us know!

While these appeared in a Japanese magazine and will all be Japan TRU exclusives, Jelze and I believe that these will pretty much be the very same deco as the Hasbro versions. So technically, these are the very first product images of Clash of the Transformers Warrior figures:

What is this, Clash of the Ants? How are they going to clash if they can't even fit in the building?

Oh lovely, it's Allspark all over again...

ScottyP wrote:What is this, Clash of the Ants? How are they going to clash if they can't even fit in the building?

Would you like me to get you a foamy latte?

william-james88 wrote:And Emerje, is there a precedent for Hasbro covering a Takara release at a show before? Because I dont think there has ever been a year where both Hasbro and Taara released the same MP simultaneously though I may be wrong. Also, Optimus Primal is just as important in Japan as he is in the US. The Optimus Prime character himself was first introduced in the US and they are both as much American Transformer Characters, so I dont know why Primal is any different.

Exactly, I'm hoping this is no different. Back in 2003 Takara showed off an unpainted prototype of MP-01 at some event. A little over a week later at OTFCC (to a very caught off guard audience's surprise) Hasbro revealed a painted version of 20th Anniversary Optimus Prime at the end of their panel. They ended up being released very closely that winter with Takara's coming in December 2003 and Hasbro's showing up around February 2004. I wouldn't expect Optimus Primal to be released so closely together, but if he's at SDCC I won't be surprised.

Emerje