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News Credits: 1642 · by **D-Maximal_Primal** » Thu Nov 10, 2016 6:56 pm

Zeedust wrote:Twinferno is... I don't even have words. How did that alt mode even happen, and why do his flames make me think of Bionicle fire sword parts?

This just made me so happy because you're right

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Thu Nov 10, 2016 7:30 pm

I'm not really seeing RB Blurr in that RID Blurr design, frankly.

News Credits: 54 · by **Deadput** » Thu Nov 10, 2016 7:33 pm

Sabrblade wrote:I'm not really seeing RB Blurr in that RID Blurr design, frankly.

Practically exact same alt mode and a very similar robot mode

I bring to you a digibash from Tfw2005 to show the similarities.

by **RAcast** » Thu Nov 10, 2016 7:34 pm

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:
Zeedust wrote:Twinferno is... I don't even have words. How did that alt mode even happen, and why do his flames make me think of Bionicle fire sword parts?
This just made me so happy because you're right

My response:

So Doublecross did the fusion dance with Samus Aran's gunship?

I can dig it! :michaelbay:

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Thu Nov 10, 2016 7:37 pm

Deadput wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:I'm not really seeing RB Blurr in that RID Blurr design, frankly.

Practically exact same alt mode and a very similar robot mode

The face looks different, though.

And that bio pretty well describes him in a vein similar to G1 Blurr. We'll see how this pans out.

News Credits: 54 · by **Deadput** » Thu Nov 10, 2016 7:41 pm

Sabrblade wrote:The face looks different, though.

And that bio pretty well describes him in a vein similar to G1 Blurr. We'll see how this pans out.

Yes but as said Rid Sideswipe already showed up in Rescue Bots which pretty much makes the two shows part of the same universe

This Blurr is the same as the other one and Toy bios hardly matter in context to the shows themselves only reasons he looks different is the same reason why RID Optimus looks different from his Prime version it's an artistic change for the show's style heck Sideswipe had the same thing when he showed up in Rescue Bots.

News Credits: 1642 · by **D-Maximal_Primal** » Thu Nov 10, 2016 7:46 pm

Deadput wrote:This Blurr is the same as the other one and Toy bios hardly matter in context to the shows themselves only reasons he looks different is the same reason why RID Optimus looks different from his Prime version it's an artistic change for the show's style heck Sideswipe had the same thing when he showed up in Rescue Bots.

This was about what I was going to say as well. The looks are quite different between the 2, even though 3 characters have shown up in both and looked different from both interpretations. So, this could be the first time we are going the other way

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Thu Nov 10, 2016 7:55 pm

Deadput wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:The face looks different, though.

And that bio pretty well describes him in a vein similar to G1 Blurr. We'll see how this pans out.

Yes but as said Rid Sideswipe already showed up in Rescue Bots which pretty much makes the two shows part of the same universe

This Blurr is the same as the other one and Toy bios hardly matter in context to the shows themselves only reasons he looks different is the same reason why RID Optimus looks different from his Prime version it's an artistic change for the show's style heck Sideswipe had the same thing when he showed up in Rescue Bots.

You're completely missing the point I'm making by trying to force absolutes into where they need not be forced. Never was I questioning the universes of the two cartoons as being the same. All I was saying is that they toy doesn't look as similar to the Rescue Bots guy to convince me that it absolutely MUST be the same guy as he just because there's another show in the same universe as RID that happens to also have a guy named Blurr in it. There are several Uniend characters who share names with other Uniend characters who aren't the same guys. For crying out loud, there are both a Grimlock and Sideswipe in RID who aren't the same guys as their WFC/FOC namesakes!

Not helping this matter is how the RID Blurr's bio describes him more like G1 Blurr than RB Blurr. You claim that toy bios don't matter that much to the shows yet you yourself earlier cited how Cyclonus's bio is a spoiler for the show, which means his bio must matter, then. You can't have it both ways.

Let a guy have an opinion and let him wait and see what's gonna happen.

News Credits: 54 · by **Deadput** » Thu Nov 10, 2016 8:02 pm

Sabrblade wrote:You're completely missing the point I'm making by trying to force absolutes into where they need not be forced. Never was I questioning the universes of the two cartoons as being the same. All I was saying is that they toy doesn't look as similar to the Rescue Bots guy to convince me that it absolutely MUST be the same guy as he just because there's another show in the same universe as RID that happens to also have a guy named Blurr in it. There are several Uniend characters who share names with other Uniend characters who aren't the same guys. For crying out loud, there are both a Grimlock and Sideswipe in RID who aren't the same guys as their WFC/FOC namesakes!

Not helping this matter is how the RID Blurr's bio describes him more like G1 Blurr than RB Blurr. You claim that toy bios don't matter that much to the shows yet you yourself earlier cited how Cyclonus's bio is a spoiler for the show, which means his bio must matter, then. You can't have it both ways.

Let a guy have an opinion and let him wait and see what's gonna happen.

I'm talking about strictly Prime/Rid/Rescue bots which is at this point the only things that connect without plot holes.

Someone said at some point that these two Grimlocks are not the same character.

Wfc was never meant to be part of this continuity and it forced FOC to make changes that still don't mesh such as Stasrscream being on the run at the end of the game despite being with the Decepticons in prime also Dark energon are two different things in the shows and games.

The people making Prime specifically were ignoring Hasbro's wishes and were not trying to connect the games such as the Nemesis is not Trypticon according to the Show makers.

The games are no longer part of the main aligned tv show universe especially when those three novels exist that make a heck more sense despite also being ignored.

News Credits: 41 · by **Cobotron** » Thu Nov 10, 2016 8:08 pm

Anybody else feel like Blurr's cockpit looks like it could hold a buddy?
Maybe like a minicon?

I know. Wishful thinking on my part, but Titans Return has me inspired.

News Credits: 1642 · by **D-Maximal_Primal** » Thu Nov 10, 2016 8:16 pm

Cobotron wrote:Anybody else feel like Blurr's cockpit looks like it could hold a buddy?
Maybe like a minicon?

I know. Wishful thinking on my part, but Titans Return has me inspired.

I wish it did Cobro. It really looks believable in those pictures

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Thu Nov 10, 2016 8:18 pm

Deadput wrote:*snip*

Just lay off, man. You obviously either don't get or don't care to respect anything I was saying, as you keep dodging my original points by bringing up other points that are completely irrelevant to my own.

But I will respond to this:

Deadput wrote:The games are no longer part of the main aligned tv show universe especially when those three novels exist that make a heck more sense despite also being ignored.

Bumblebee referred to Starscream's new G1-inspired form as his "old body style", meaning Starscream used to have a look similar to this one before he had his Prime body. There is literally no other reason for him to even bother making such a comment to Starscream about his new look than to make a nod to Starscream's G1-inspired look in the games.

Even the new Soundwave toy we see in this lineup is pretty much an obivous cross between his games look and his Prime look.

And you can't just ignore all the game nods that were put into the Prime cartoon. Unless someone goes and officially edits them all out of that show, they all still exist.

News Credits: 295 · by **WreckerJack** » Thu Nov 10, 2016 11:43 pm

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:
Cobotron wrote:Anybody else feel like Blurr's cockpit looks like it could hold a buddy?
Maybe like a minicon?

I know. Wishful thinking on my part, but Titans Return has me inspired.

I wish it did Cobro. It really looks believable in those pictures

I am sure a titan master could fit inside there.

News Credits: 7 · by **Zeedust** » Fri Nov 11, 2016 2:52 am

WreckerJack wrote:
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:
Cobotron wrote:Anybody else feel like Blurr's cockpit looks like it could hold a buddy?
Maybe like a minicon?

I know. Wishful thinking on my part, but Titans Return has me inspired.

I wish it did Cobro. It really looks believable in those pictures

I am sure a titan master could fit inside there.

That doesn't necessarily mean there's a way to put one in, though.

News Credits: 295 · by **WreckerJack** » Fri Nov 11, 2016 3:45 am

Zeedust wrote:That doesn't necessarily mean there's a way to put one in, though.

That sounds like a challenge now doesn't it? Brb gonna go find my dremel... :michaelbay:

by **DeadRatchet** » Fri Nov 11, 2016 5:10 am

Cant wait, these are excellent!

News Credits: 19 · by **Carnivius_Prime** » Fri Nov 11, 2016 7:49 am

I may actually be tempted into buying an RiD toy in the form of that Bludgeon. It's still not as good as the RotF toy and too simplistic and cartoony (and the tank form sucks) but it's still a nice version of one of my fave ever Decepticons so I may get it to stand next to my RotF figure and the tiny Prime guy too. The head sculpt looks unusually great for the usually goofy RiD style and better than the default RotF head (which I replaced with the superior Blood upgrade that has two switchable faces)

None of the rest look all that good to me. Soundwave maybe. Blurr looks awful.

by **Microraptor** » Fri Nov 11, 2016 8:35 am

Twinferno is the greatest thing I have ever seen.

by **Ultra Markus** » Fri Nov 11, 2016 11:27 pm

that soundwave looks WFC inspired :-?

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Fri Nov 11, 2016 11:32 pm

Ultra Markus wrote:that soundwave looks WFC inspired

Because it is. WFC/FOC and Prime belong in the same continuity, believe it or not. Well, that was Hasbro's original intent.

News Credits: 191 · by **Kurona** » Fri Nov 11, 2016 11:33 pm

It looks more Animated inspired to me.

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Sat Nov 12, 2016 12:00 am

Kurona wrote:It looks more Animated inspired to me.

It's neither a Scion nor has any of Animated Soundwave's green music style highlights.

No extra gold accents either (the gold on the chest doesn't count since that's common to practically every G1-based Soundwave, whereas Animated Soundwave had extra gold on his feet, fingers, buttons, and face).

And no shoulder-mounted speaker wheels.

News Credits: 11 · by **RAR** » Sat Nov 12, 2016 8:28 am

Interesting but if they are going to actually carry on making this line (which it has to end sometime right) then it might be nice to see Springload get a Warrior class toy.

Soundwave comes under the banner of "Interesting". Twinferno is more bizarre - but I'm OK with that as it's not like everyone is going to call the Titans Returns one Twinferno anyway - and you have the option to choose to do so or not - I actually might call Breakaway that so as to separate him from the IDW Getaway being unlikable.

So no more Combiner Force ones (that actually combine) then ?
Shame that is when they make such short mini-lines like that.

They really could do with making the 3 step a bit less kiddy though in terms of sculpt they look more babyish than some Rescuebots toys do.

News Credits: 191 · by **Kurona** » Sat Nov 12, 2016 8:55 am

RAR wrote:Interesting but if they are going to actually carry on making this line (which it has to end sometime right) then it might be nice to see Springload get a Warrior class toy.

Soundwave comes under the banner of "Interesting". Twinferno is more bizarre - but I'm OK with that as it's not like everyone is going to call the Titans Returns one Twinferno anyway - and you have the option to choose to do so or not - I actually might call Breakaway that so as to separate him from the IDW Getaway being unlikable.

So no more Combiner Force ones (that actually combine) then ?
Shame that is when they make such short mini-lines like that.

They really could do with making the 3 step a bit less kiddy though in terms of sculpt they look more babyish than some Rescuebots toys do.

Combiner Force is most certainly still a thing, it's simply a different class that runs alongside Warrior, 3-step, Combiner Activators etc.

News Credits: 11 · by **RAR** » Sat Nov 12, 2016 10:19 am

I was expressing my concern that like the Minicon 2 pack assortment that the Combiner Force (that actually combines) is a very limited sub-line and is perhaps only designed to tie in to that very small segment of the cartoon - and as such won't actually expand beyond what we have seen.

I just would have liked a few more of that type to expand the variety of combination options that you can have - so something like Drift, Jazz, Ratchet or even Blurr would be nice to have with that type of toy too.

I just don't expect it to happen which may lead to a very limited play pattern.