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ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:I'm phoneposting so screw quote editing.
Effectively, Galvatron have abdolutely no clue of any véhicule on his bot. But know what? I have the PERFECT solution. Make Galvatron a PRETENDER with a truck shell! That Will be freaking awesome.

How about an Action Master and a separate truck?

Well, the pretenders that have a vehicle shell are basically that. So, eh.
That Galvatron could be hyper detailed, hyper articulated, with a hyper realistic truck mode. The cab would open, Galvy would enter "rock lord" mode and fit inside. We could even display both modes at the same time.

Honestly, I'd genuinely pay money for that.

-Kanrabat- wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:I'm phoneposting so screw quote editing.
Effectively, Galvatron have abdolutely no clue of any véhicule on his bot. But know what? I have the PERFECT solution. Make Galvatron a PRETENDER with a truck shell! That Will be freaking awesome.

How about an Action Master and a separate truck?

Well, the pretenders that have a vehicle shell are basically that. So, eh.
That Galvatron could be hyper detailed, hyper articulated, with a hyper realistic truck mode. The cab would open, Galvy would enter "rock lord" mode and fit inside. We could even display both modes at the same time.

Honestly, I'd genuinely pay money for that.

But if he was a Pretender he would be undersized and badly articulated to fit into the shell.

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:But if he was a Pretender he would be undersized and badly articulated to fit into the shell.

Au contraire mon cher! For the articulations, he would have even MORE points than usual because he'll have to compress into a ball to fit. It would be better than any Figma or Revoltech.

As for the size, let's say that the truck mode will not give any fok and will be HUEG in order for the bot to be voyager size. At least leader size for the shell. It would be fine because what matter most in scale for the SS series are the bots.

-Kanrabat- wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:But if he was a Pretender he would be undersized and badly articulated to fit into the shell.

Au contraire mon cher! For the articulations, he would have even MORE points than usual because he'll have to compress into a ball to fit. It would be better than any Figma or Revoltech.

As for the size, let's say that the truck mode will not give any fok and will be HUEG in order for the bot to be voyager size. At least leader size for the shell. It would be fine because what matter most in scale for the SS series are the bots.

I was making fun of how the G1 pretenders were gimped by their gimmick

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:I was making fun of how the G1 pretenders were gimped by their gimmick

Well, G1 being G1 limited articulations came with the course. But having around 20 G1 Pretenders so far, I can tell that some inner bots have a surprizing amounts of movement for the time's standards. Plus they also had an altmode so that's something.

We could always have Galvatron be a posablte figure that comes with a Hot Wheels truck and then just swap them out and pretend he transformed. I feel like that'd be in keeping with the spirit of the movie.

In all fairness though, Hasbro has done some pretty stellar work with the figures so far. I wouldn't be surprised if we do see an actual working Galvatron figure in the future. I forsee lots, and lots of panels.

... I'll be honest, up until I caught up with the thread, I'd completely forgotten just how much I hated AOE even as a Bayverse fan Galvatron's design could only be done as a shellformer. Or as a LEGO Kre-O set. I could easily see it as leader class Megatron style compress down to a voyager bot with some elements from Evasion Prime. Speaking of evasion modes, I'd love to see them redo Bumblebee's starting form in AOE and maybe a repaint of Prime to be a more accurate color

Given that Wave 3 of Siege has been hitting retail hard the past 2 weeks, I am gonna guess Long Haul and the rest of his wave will be in stores really soon

Wow!! After all of the nice Siege figures that have been released recently, it really accentuates just how absolutely awful the Bayformers are This guy looks horrible!

If you dislike Bayformers so intensely then why are you even in this thread? Scram!

Dang,he looks great.

If they want do one repaint of this,they could do Canopy.

Hopefully SDCC will feature some reveals about Scavenger and Mixmaster.

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:If you dislike Bayformers so intensely then why are you even in this thread? Scram!

Because, as a collector and a fan since the 80's, I have opinions on what is good and what isn't. I also state my opinions because it's good when the fans voice likes and dislikes, in hopes that it moves towards better future design of these wonderful characters.

If you don't care for my opinion, you are far more than welcome to ignore me. Telling me to scram is neither appreciated nor productive

What I'd really like to see that I don't think anyone's shown yet is a size comparison between these guys in their limb modes and the corresponding pieces of 2009 Devastator.

Long Haul looks awesome! I won’t be able to go for Devastator, but I think I will be getting a few of the constructions. I’m really excited to see what Mixmaster looks like, hopefully I’ll have him posed next to Ironhide to recreate the boss battle from the DOTM game.

Wonder if we’ll get some early reveals for SS like Siege did or if we have to wait till SDCC.

Zeedust wrote:What I'd really like to see that I don't think anyone's shown yet is a size comparison between these guys in their limb modes and the corresponding pieces of 2009 Devastator.

Most assuredly this will eventually happen.

EvasionModeBumblebee wrote:

Wonder if we’ll get some early reveals for SS like Siege did or if we have to wait till SDCC.

Probably the lateer.During this time of the year,Hasbro likes to keep theirs suprises in their sleeves for comic con.

Yeah easy now scram was retired with the language manual for bullies from the 1950’s let’s all be chill and respect everyone’s opinions. No need to get anachronistically snarky.

I used to dislike them across the board but AOE Prime brought it back for me and I couldn’t help but like the Dinobots designs, not necessarily as the new Dinobots but the designs are pretty neat.

The new Studio series is helping me appreciate these designs now that Bumblebee helped me let go of some of my past disappointments. I’m able to see it in a more positive light these days. I’d say try one before deciding for sure. There had to be one design out of all those you at least liked more than ones you flat out hated right?

"Scram" was not retired, it's been preserved in popular consciousness by Sesame Street etching it into our minds as children And I said it because I think at this point it's unproductive and slightly trollish to come into a thread dedicated to a Bayformer line just to basically say "Oh man Bayformer designs are soooo ugly".

I happen to like the Bayformer designs a fair bit and think they're by and large pretty neat, although they're decidedly a bit hard on the designers because of complexity. Especially with the limits of the Studio Series' scale. Still, I like the look of a lot of them, although some ask for things that are beyond the reach of toy designers (*glares at AoE Galvatron and Drift, and BB Shatter and Dropkick*).
I like the creativity some of them show, too, like the unconventional Vehicon-esque designs a lot of the Constructicons have (especially the Wheelbot body type - I really look forward to seeing how the Studio Series handles that).
A lot of the Bumblebee Movie designs bug me because they're playing in the Bayformer sandbox but failing to abide by its established conventions and continuity.

And as this is a discussion thread and not an appreciation thread I hear what you’re saying and I dig it. Nobody’s telling you to beat your feet and hit the bricks its a chat. An inclusive one. So long as points are articulate and not directly hurtful or anything.

Be here to be a fan of stuff, not just talk people down. You’re acting like you’re always late for a basketball game you seem to not be able to wait to dunk on people.

I get that it's a discussion thread, but dropping into a Bayformer thread just to express a fundamental unilateral dislike for them doesn't exactly feel like discussion, and I admit that it set me off...

How do people think the impending Studio Series Leader-class Scavenger will be able to improve on the ROTF Voyager Scavenger/Demolishor design while accommodating Devastator bits?

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:How do people think the impending Studio Series Leader-class Scavenger will be able to improve on the ROTF Voyager Scavenger/Demolishor design while accommodating Devastator bits?

Personally, I never had the original, but I'm just hoping it manages to be able to stand without the hands holding it up and also be big enough to scale with maybe the legends class Optimus Prime from previous lines

Looking forward to this guy.

The bayformers made a lot of money and reinvigorated the brand the same as Beast Wars so it holds a special place in my heart. One thing I love about bayformers is the silhouettes are instantly recognizable as different characters for the main cast.

Beyond excited to build the behemoth devastator.