Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:I feel like the only reason this isn't called Jazz is because they had to renew the copyright for Mirage. There's no other reason this couldn't be Jazz really.
Dr. Caelus wrote:Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:I feel like the only reason this isn't called Jazz is because they had to renew the copyright for Mirage. There's no other reason this couldn't be Jazz really.
Movie first, toys second. The hologram shellgame looks good on screen, and Mirage is a cooler name for an illusionist spy robot in disguise.
"Jazz" is unfortunately one typo away from offensive, so not a great choice for lead bot.
And also, Jazz was a 932 in G1, not a 911. Yes it's the same manufacturer, but that's like confusing Ratchet and Ironhide's altmodes in the 07 movie because the Topkick and Hummer were both made by GM.
william-james88 wrote:Dr. Caelus wrote:Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:I feel like the only reason this isn't called Jazz is because they had to renew the copyright for Mirage. There's no other reason this couldn't be Jazz really.
Movie first, toys second. The hologram shellgame looks good on screen, and Mirage is a cooler name for an illusionist spy robot in disguise.
"Jazz" is unfortunately one typo away from offensive, so not a great choice for lead bot.
And also, Jazz was a 932 in G1, not a 911. Yes it's the same manufacturer, but that's like confusing Ratchet and Ironhide's altmodes in the 07 movie because the Topkick and Hummer were both made by GM.
Jazz was a 935 in G1
Dr. Caelus wrote:Edit:
Of course, the obvious reason they couldn't name this character Jazz is because we already watched him die in 2007. Without a reboot, that would sort of sour audience attachment to the character.
Emerje wrote:Dr. Caelus wrote:Edit:
Of course, the obvious reason they couldn't name this character Jazz is because we already watched him die in 2007. Without a reboot, that would sort of sour audience attachment to the character.
This movie takes place in the '90s (1992 according to the casting sheet), Jazz is still alive somewhere out there.
Question for anyone, are we really supposed to think Mirage is the same character as Dino? Saying Dino is Mirage because that was the working name that ended up on some merch and games before being established in the movie as Dino is like saying Devastator and Brawl are the same character because of those screwed up subtitles.
Emerje
Emerje wrote:Dr. Caelus wrote:Edit:
Of course, the obvious reason they couldn't name this character Jazz is because we already watched him die in 2007. Without a reboot, that would sort of sour audience attachment to the character.
This movie takes place in the '90s (1992 according to the casting sheet), Jazz is still alive somewhere out there.
SpaceEagle wrote:Emerje wrote:Dr. Caelus wrote:Edit:
Of course, the obvious reason they couldn't name this character Jazz is because we already watched him die in 2007. Without a reboot, that would sort of sour audience attachment to the character.
This movie takes place in the '90s (1992 according to the casting sheet), Jazz is still alive somewhere out there.
Question for anyone, are we really supposed to think Mirage is the same character as Dino? Saying Dino is Mirage because that was the working name that ended up on some merch and games before being established in the movie as Dino is like saying Devastator and Brawl are the same character because of those screwed up subtitles.
Emerje
Personally I do think "Dino" is Mirage because of how many times the character is referred to as Mirage - including the very sequel, Age of Extinction, where Attinger's playing card uses the name Mirage to refer to the Ferrari 458 Italia Autobot.
Even merch made after the film, the Cyberverse Legion toy, also use the name Mirage. (I know it's not the grandest of things, but I still think it counts.)
So I'd say I'm content with Dino at least being considered a nickname even if it wasn't listed like Wheeljack's was thanks to Ferrari themselves.
Dr. Caelus wrote:
Honestly, did you really think someone on this board somehow missed the part where this movie is a prequel?
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