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TF-fan kev777 wrote:If they didn't pad the line with SS86 figures, then there could be a good chance of running out of figures that have not been made yet before the next movie drops. Heck with the current status of the film industry, that might still be a possibility even with SS86 eating up slots.
I know some will say there are plenty of figures still in need from the previous movies, and that isn't wrong, but all the heavy hitters have pretty much been done. From a marketing standpoint, I would assume that Hasbro would want at least 1 or 2 figures with some name recognition in each wave. I definitely want Jolt, Dino, Queue, Hatchet, Devcon, Onslaught, Hooligan and others, but none of them has as much name recognition as say Hot Rod, Kup or Scourge.
ZeroWolf wrote:Though I can see a bright side to all this...no more need to redo these characters for a long while![]()
-Kanrabat- wrote:TF-fan kev777 wrote:First-Aid wrote:Okay, did anyone else notice that we all get a wonderful shot of Starscreams crotch anytime he sits in that throne? That's unnerving. Couldn't they have put n extra flap in there? It's....weird.
Its kind of like Basic Instinct, but not in a good way...
Goddammit, now I can't unsee it.
ZeroWolf wrote:Isn't Arcee getting a Netflix re-release as well? Imagine if the kingdom Arcee was just BA repainted
Nemesis Primal wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:Isn't Arcee getting a Netflix re-release as well? Imagine if the kingdom Arcee was just BA repainted
The next wave of Netflix Deluxes is Deep Cover, ER Barricade from Smokescreen, some variety of Cheetor repaint, and some variety of Quintesson, according to the listings/leaks we've seen, nothing on an Arcee.
First-Aid wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:Though I can see a bright side to all this...no more need to redo these characters for a long while![]()
This is Hasbro. They will find a way to do it, and appease whiny Geewunners somehow, most likely with a new Seeker mold and no less than 10 repaints (crossover marketing with Skittles here: Transform the Rainbow), plus at least five redecos of Prime and Megatron.
As for SS, we are still missing the bright shiny badass Camaro Bumblebee turned into at the end of his movie, and at least two other Camaro versions of him (as we speak of redoing characters over and over...)
sol magnus wrote:First-Aid wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:Though I can see a bright side to all this...no more need to redo these characters for a long while![]()
This is Hasbro. They will find a way to do it, and appease whiny Geewunners somehow, most likely with a new Seeker mold and no less than 10 repaints (crossover marketing with Skittles here: Transform the Rainbow), plus at least five redecos of Prime and Megatron.
As for SS, we are still missing the bright shiny badass Camaro Bumblebee turned into at the end of his movie, and at least two other Camaro versions of him (as we speak of redoing characters over and over...)
I hear a lot about "whiny Geewunners" from people whining about Geewunners and they're repaints and remolds while they whine about repaints and remolds. Wonder why that is?
-Kanrabat- wrote:TF-fan kev777 wrote:First-Aid wrote:Okay, did anyone else notice that we all get a wonderful shot of Starscreams crotch anytime he sits in that throne? That's unnerving. Couldn't they have put n extra flap in there? It's....weird.
Its kind of like Basic Instinct, but not in a good way...
Goddammit, now I can't unsee it.
First-Aid wrote:sol magnus wrote:First-Aid wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:Though I can see a bright side to all this...no more need to redo these characters for a long while![]()
This is Hasbro. They will find a way to do it, and appease whiny Geewunners somehow, most likely with a new Seeker mold and no less than 10 repaints (crossover marketing with Skittles here: Transform the Rainbow), plus at least five redecos of Prime and Megatron.
As for SS, we are still missing the bright shiny badass Camaro Bumblebee turned into at the end of his movie, and at least two other Camaro versions of him (as we speak of redoing characters over and over...)
I hear a lot about "whiny Geewunners" from people whining about Geewunners and they're repaints and remolds while they whine about repaints and remolds. Wonder why that is?
Was that English???
Absolutely, I hate repaints and remolds. I hate whiny people, too. I want new, exciting product and characters, not rehashes and remolds, with new details, features and a different look altogether. I haven't seen that TF: Animated introduced us to Bulkhead and Lugnut, who were both good characters with excellent product. The ONLY other breath of change in the last 20 years has been the Bay movies. In a toy line that is really all about transforming and change, there sure isn't much transformation and change. It's pretty much a dead horse HasTak has been beating on since Beast Machines ended the last truly, completely original TF series.
sol magnus wrote:In this very thread about this Studio Series business I've seen plenty of 'whining' and teethgnashing about G1 guys who were in an actual theater release movie 'invading' their precious Studio Series - as entitled an attitude as any G1 person who might have thought Armada was 'kiddy' (it was), or didn't like the direction of Beast Wars in general (I didn't - at first). But the ones I know who felt that way still bought the toys. Heck,even I have an Armada Prime - because I thought it was a cool toy despite the show's demographic simply not being mine.
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:G1 is literally EVERYWHERE else. let the 1 line that doesn't have any G1 in it finish.
sol magnus wrote:You say you hate whiny people, and I'm not a fan, but this myth of the 'whiny Geewunner' must stop. I've never seen a "Geewunner" (itself a slur) who exhibits this behavior. Where are they? Point me out one.
sol magnus wrote:Once again comes the fallacy that the franchise is "all about change" when it's really all about giant fighting robots changing into other stuff as an argument for 'why do they keep making all this Geewun (slur) stuff?'
sol magnus wrote:The fact is, for now anyway, so-called "Geewunners" don't have to justify themselves to you, because Hasbro justifies them year after year with the products they choose to make.
By "both anniversaries" he means those of TFTM and Beast Wars, hence Kingdom having both Beast Wars and G1 toys.Based on what I've read from the more credible leakers.
They wanted to do both anniversaries but there was too many designs to fit into one line.
Studio series was getting a bit thin on characters so the decision was made to drop 5mm ports from the 86 designs (also cause the design team hated how the 5mm holes looked covering the alt modes) and release some there and some in Kingdom.
As far as studio series bayverse stuff goes Hasbro apparently consider the AoE and TLK characters poor sellers so don't expect too many of them very often.
Though they are apparently starting to get notes from Paramount about the next movie.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
ZeroWolf wrote:Isn't Arcee getting a Netflix re-release as well? Imagine if the kingdom Arcee was just BA repainted
Let's not kid ourselves here people, had there been space in the other line, series 86 wouldn't have happened, all the movie guys would be together in the WfC Trilogy (would have been fitting really since it was Unicrons attack that really allowed the Autobots to take the planet back). That though isn't the world we live in. Though I can see a bright side to all this...no more need to redo these characters for a long while![]()
In fact there's another offshoot studio series could do, they could go back to the live action movies development and do the character's that never made it, and of course, toy only characters like Wreckage and Stockade
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:sol magnus wrote:In this very thread about this Studio Series business I've seen plenty of 'whining' and teethgnashing about G1 guys who were in an actual theater release movie 'invading' their precious Studio Series - as entitled an attitude as any G1 person who might have thought Armada was 'kiddy' (it was), or didn't like the direction of Beast Wars in general (I didn't - at first). But the ones I know who felt that way still bought the toys. Heck,even I have an Armada Prime - because I thought it was a cool toy despite the show's demographic simply not being mine.
You see, G1 keeps going, it keeps getting recycled, new toys of the same characters as they go. And it will keep going, with a huge cast too I might add.
Studio Series has been small in comparison, 3 waves per year (save year 1), 2 or 3 leaders, 6 voyagers, 12 deluxes. Not a large toyline at a time. not even a selects release repaint.
All SS needs is maybe one, maybe one and a half years to complete the cast, in scale with one another, complete. The end. Final. Full movie cast, in nigh perfect form, and left to rest. Which is what will happen with live action bots the moment this line ends. it will fall like the rest, getting a very occasional repaint homage of some sort, but that's it.
Give SS 1 or a bit more years, and then the live action movies can rest. We will be happy. It's bad enough it took 11 years to get a combining Devastator with proper robot modes, 9 years to complete the trio of Wreckers, and 13 years to get another go at the original Megatron. And we still don't have a Dino or the completion of the dreads or even TLK Megatron's crew. Let it run its course and finish.
G1 is literally EVERYWHERE else. let the 1 line that doesn't have any G1 in it finish.
Speaking of newly completed teams, Leadfoot is a really solid deluxe figure. I really enjoy this guy, there really isn't anything bad about him
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-Kanrabat- wrote:TF-fan kev777 wrote:First-Aid wrote:Okay, did anyone else notice that we all get a wonderful shot of Starscreams crotch anytime he sits in that throne? That's unnerving. Couldn't they have put n extra flap in there? It's....weird.
Its kind of like Basic Instinct, but not in a good way...
Goddammit, now I can't unsee it.
Nemesis Primal wrote:When Kingdom gets fully shown off this weekend, I almost guarantee if they don't show "enough" G1, the TF forums gonna get hit with a swarm of complaints that the Beast Wars characters are "taking spots away" from G1 characters that haven't been in WFC yet, or that the WFC Trilogy has been RUINED FOREVER because they "randomly" threw Beast Wars in despite the line still being titled the plural Generations.
I hear ya.Seibertron wrote:I'm not feeling Kup. I like Hot Rod though. There are a few things off with Kup from his face sculpt, head sculpt, and the bulk of his chest. It's close? I dunno. Just seems off to me. Not very Studio Series like compared to some of the other products that have leaked. Kind of a bummer considering how much after hoping for a new Kup after the really disappointing Titans Return Kup.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Percepter wrote:Except I don't believe there's a derogatory term for Beast Wars fans.
Wait...you mean to tell us that you're a Transformers fan? For shame!Seibertron wrote:I'm a loud and proud Geewunner Beasties Bayformers fan.
I don't think many folks even own the original Deluxe Leadfoot figure to compare. The original Deluxe only came out in the Japanese DOTM line while the Target-exclusive US release of the Deluxe was canceled, which made the Japanese release very sought after and hard to come by.Rodimus Prime wrote:Now, back on topic, I have a question for all of you who own SS Leadfoot already. How does he compare to the original Leadfoot figure? Heftier? More or less poseable?
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:I look at each of them and think "That's an alright Kup figure, but it's still not quite the Kup figure," know what I mean?
Huh. I didn't know that. I could have sworn Target released a deluxe back in 2011 or '12. I guess that's 1 more reason why this one is so sought after. Now I get why D-Max said the Wreckers are finally together.Sabrblade wrote:I don't think many folks even own the original Deluxe Leadfoot figure to compare. The original Deluxe only came out in the Japanese DOTM line while the Target-exclusive US release of the Deluxe was canceled, which made the Japanese release very sought after and hard to come by.Rodimus Prime wrote:Now, back on topic, I have a question for all of you who own SS Leadfoot already. How does he compare to the original Leadfoot figure? Heftier? More or less poseable?
Seibertron wrote:I'm not feeling Kup. I like Hot Rod though. There are a few things off with Kup from his face sculpt, head sculpt, and the bulk of his chest. It's close? I dunno. Just seems off to me. Not very Studio Series like compared to some of the other products that have leaked. Kind of a bummer considering how much after hoping for a new Kup after the really disappointing Titans Return Kup.
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