ricemazter wrote:What always got me about these films is that nobody involved in the production seemed to have an appreciation for or even like the source material. Bay's artistic merits are debatable, but it's always been apparent to me that he doesn't care about the Transformers part of the Transformers. More often than not the robots are disposable set pieces in these movies. For example, in any other transformers media, it would be a big deal for Soundwave or any other major Decepticon to die. In Dorm, though, whatever.
Because business people, Transformers wasn't as big as Star Wars or Marvel and it hasn't been around as long so it did not have the luxury of having as many fans in that span of time.
Back in G1 Mr Donald Glut was a writer on the G1 cartoon who had this to say about the G1 show. (according to the wiki)
Donald Glut wrote:"No one, not even the story editors, looked at these scripts very carefully. I seem to remember the show being on a really tight schedule, and we had to crank these scripts out fast. I wrote some of them in a single day, first draft, and they went almost immediately to the storyboard artists after Bryce or an assistant gave them a rather cursory read. We were not trying to create art, just get them done fast, and get paid... None of the writing on this series, in my opinion, was good or passionate or, sometimes (my own included, like The Autobot Run) even adequate. But we got paid well for writing them fast.... I was never a fan of any of the characters."
About Soundwave's death what are you expecting some sort of reaction from the Decepticons like "Noooo Soundwave!" right on the battlefield?
Movie wise outside of the main couple villains the Decepticons will never be treated in the same fashon as the Autobots heck look at Marvel and how many of their villains...suck and are killed off in the same movie their introduced and if not then the next movie their in.
Outside of Star wars and if you count horror movies villains don't really sell.
ricemazter wrote:The other thing that always bothered me was just who are these movies made for? It isn't kids, certainly. There's too much sexual content, crass humor, and over the top violence. Tonally they seemed to be teen and young adult males who,correct me if I'm wrong, aren't the market that will be buying these toys in the numbers to generate a real profit, especially the simple versions.
From what I heard years ago specifically for teenage boys at least back around ROTF. (The Marvel films while not as crude are also guilty of these things like have you guys seen the Guardians of the Galaxy film especially the new one with not even just innuendos but also rather blunt straight to the point jokes?)
Not exactly wrong either since Teenagers of my generation were rather...uh "crazy" even in middle school so the films should be up their alley.
And why make a robot action film if it has boring uninteresting action we see in other movies? It's robots man ya gotta go all out or go home!