The Energon Pub

[Carnivius_Prime]

Wait, so are we to believe that this movie will unite all the nonsensical, disconnected, conflicting and plothole-riddled backstory, McGuffins and miscellaneous space tchotchkes such as the AllSpark, Megatron Antarctic crash, Seed, Transformium, Ark, Sentinel Prime, Pillars, Star Harvester, Nemesis/Fallen base, Matrix - and probably a bunch of others I've forgotten - into a single coherent story?

Transformers is supposed to have a single coherent story? News to me.

[Rodimus Prime]

Wow. What a huge spoiler that tweet is. Putting together 2 and 2, Bay just pretty much told us that Cybertron will be destroyed for good. If 1 world lives and 1 dies, it won't be Earth that dies. So, The Last Knight will be the end of Cybertron. But will Prime and/or Megatron die with it?

Maybe that's the twist and they destroy Earth.

Can't tell if you're serious or not, but that's highly unlikely considering that Bayverse is utterly human-centric.

[reluctantyouth]

Great another geriatric transformer poking fun at dementia, aging and what not. Robot Dementia? Are you serious? This is the same stupid crap they pulled with Jetfire in the polished turd known as ROTF. Hot Rod looks interesting. Cogman I could care less about. I feel sorry for Sir Anthony Hopkins...if that little bit of dialogue tells us anything...it's that the mighty have truly fallen. I don't know how Anthony Hopkins can call Bay a genius.

~reluctantyouth~

[Carnivius_Prime]

Great another geriatric transformer poking fun at dementia, aging and what not. Robot Dementia? Are you serious? This is the same stupid crap they pulled with Jetfire in the polished turd known as ROTF.

I dunno. That was the first Jetfire portrayal I actually liked. Never cared for other versions, even G1 (who I always disliked cos he was bland and also didn't look much like the awesome Valkyrie toy which is still one of if not the best G1 Transformer ever made)

[Prowl4]

I do wonder what bay's fixation is on British transformers and especially his fixation on mark Ryan who is absolutely awful.

Hot rods voice certainly not as bad as expected but I do hope he changes his voice by the end since they learn earth's languages through the worldwide Web hopefully he'll get judd nelsons voice by the end.

[Kurona]

Maybe he'll also get a spoiler by the end, or a red and orange colour scheme; or the flame patterns on his chest. I don't see why he wouldn't, as this guy just screams G1 Hot Rod

[Prowl4]

Maybe he'll also get a spoiler by the end, or a red and orange colour scheme; or the flame patterns on his chest. I don't see why he wouldn't, as this guy just screams G1 Hot Rod

Not concerned with that more concerned with an iconic character having a terrible voice.

[Kurona]

Maybe he'll also get a spoiler by the end, or a red and orange colour scheme; or the flame patterns on his chest. I don't see why he wouldn't, as this guy just screams G1 Hot Rod

Not concerned with that more concerned with an iconic character having a terrible voice.

Eh, it's entirely possible he'll die or just go away after a few movies and this will have been a weird little detour that won't really have shaped our perception of Hot Rod/Rodimus as a character archetype in the slightest and hence won't really be iconic. Happened with Wheeljack, right?

[Prowl4]

Maybe he'll also get a spoiler by the end, or a red and orange colour scheme; or the flame patterns on his chest. I don't see why he wouldn't, as this guy just screams G1 Hot Rod

Not concerned with that more concerned with an iconic character having a terrible voice.

Eh, it's entirely possible he'll die or just go away after a few movies and this will have been a weird little detour that won't really have shaped our perception of Hot Rod/Rodimus as a character archetype in the slightest and hence won't really be iconic. Happened with Wheeljack, right?

Wheeljack hasn't appeared in the movies.

[Sabrblade]

Maybe he'll also get a spoiler by the end, or a red and orange colour scheme; or the flame patterns on his chest. I don't see why he wouldn't, as this guy just screams G1 Hot Rod

Not concerned with that more concerned with an iconic character having a terrible voice.

Eh, it's entirely possible he'll die or just go away after a few movies and this will have been a weird little detour that won't really have shaped our perception of Hot Rod/Rodimus as a character archetype in the slightest and hence won't really be iconic. Happened with Wheeljack, right?

Wheeljack hasn't appeared in the movies.

[partholon]

kerist that was awfull.

and im not even a hot rod fan.

id ask how the fuk hard it is to get a decent voice , then i rember "Dino" and the fact bay lives for unfunny shyte like this.

[Prowl4]

Maybe he'll also get a spoiler by the end, or a red and orange colour scheme; or the flame patterns on his chest. I don't see why he wouldn't, as this guy just screams G1 Hot Rod

Not concerned with that more concerned with an iconic character having a terrible voice.

Eh, it's entirely possible he'll die or just go away after a few movies and this will have been a weird little detour that won't really have shaped our perception of Hot Rod/Rodimus as a character archetype in the slightest and hence won't really be iconic. Happened with Wheeljack, right?

Wheeljack hasn't appeared in the movies.

Not Wheeljack as he was named que in the movies.

[william-james88]

Wheeljack hasn't appeared in the movies.

He did but he wasnt called Wheeljack, he was called Que.

Its a bit like the Dino/Mirage thing but I think this one works better since Que actually has attributes of G1 Wheeljack.

polished turd known as ROTF

polished?

[Sabrblade]

Maybe he'll also get a spoiler by the end, or a red and orange colour scheme; or the flame patterns on his chest. I don't see why he wouldn't, as this guy just screams G1 Hot Rod

Not concerned with that more concerned with an iconic character having a terrible voice.

Eh, it's entirely possible he'll die or just go away after a few movies and this will have been a weird little detour that won't really have shaped our perception of Hot Rod/Rodimus as a character archetype in the slightest and hence won't really be iconic. Happened with Wheeljack, right?

Wheeljack hasn't appeared in the movies.

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Not Wheeljack as he was named que in the movies.

That didn't preclude his still being Wheeljack.

[Prowl4]

Maybe he'll also get a spoiler by the end, or a red and orange colour scheme; or the flame patterns on his chest. I don't see why he wouldn't, as this guy just screams G1 Hot Rod

Not concerned with that more concerned with an iconic character having a terrible voice.

Eh, it's entirely possible he'll die or just go away after a few movies and this will have been a weird little detour that won't really have shaped our perception of Hot Rod/Rodimus as a character archetype in the slightest and hence won't really be iconic. Happened with Wheeljack, right?

Wheeljack hasn't appeared in the movies.

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Not Wheeljack as he was named que in the movies.

That didn't preclude his still being Wheeljack.

He's not Wheeljack. Get over it.

[Randomhero]

Maybe he'll also get a spoiler by the end, or a red and orange colour scheme; or the flame patterns on his chest. I don't see why he wouldn't, as this guy just screams G1 Hot Rod

Not concerned with that more concerned with an iconic character having a terrible voice.

Eh, it's entirely possible he'll die or just go away after a few movies and this will have been a weird little detour that won't really have shaped our perception of Hot Rod/Rodimus as a character archetype in the slightest and hence won't really be iconic. Happened with Wheeljack, right?

Wheeljack hasn't appeared in the movies.

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Not Wheeljack as he was named que in the movies.

That didn't preclude his still being Wheeljack.

He's not Wheeljack. Get over it.

Yes it was. They changed his name late in production because they wanted to do a nod to Bond with him. Comics even had him get blown to scrap and rebuilt and renamed him Que. for all intended purposes he was wheeljack.

http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Wheeljack_(Movie)

[Prowl4]

Maybe he'll also get a spoiler by the end, or a red and orange colour scheme; or the flame patterns on his chest. I don't see why he wouldn't, as this guy just screams G1 Hot Rod

Not concerned with that more concerned with an iconic character having a terrible voice.

Eh, it's entirely possible he'll die or just go away after a few movies and this will have been a weird little detour that won't really have shaped our perception of Hot Rod/Rodimus as a character archetype in the slightest and hence won't really be iconic. Happened with Wheeljack, right?

Wheeljack hasn't appeared in the movies.

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Not Wheeljack as he was named que in the movies.

That didn't preclude his still being Wheeljack.

He's not Wheeljack. Get over it.

Yes it was. They changed his name late in production because they wanted to do a nod to Bond with him. Comics even had him get blown to scrap and rebuilt and renamed him Que. for all intended purposes he was wheeljack.

http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Wheeljack_(Movie)

He's called que in the movies and that's all that matters. The comics don't matter.

[Randomhero]

Maybe he'll also get a spoiler by the end, or a red and orange colour scheme; or the flame patterns on his chest. I don't see why he wouldn't, as this guy just screams G1 Hot Rod

Not concerned with that more concerned with an iconic character having a terrible voice.

Eh, it's entirely possible he'll die or just go away after a few movies and this will have been a weird little detour that won't really have shaped our perception of Hot Rod/Rodimus as a character archetype in the slightest and hence won't really be iconic. Happened with Wheeljack, right?

Wheeljack hasn't appeared in the movies.

pic

Not Wheeljack as he was named que in the movies.

That didn't preclude his still being Wheeljack.

He's not Wheeljack. Get over it.

Yes it was. They changed his name late in production because they wanted to do a nod to Bond with him. Comics even had him get blown to scrap and rebuilt and renamed him Que. for all intended purposes he was wheeljack.

http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Wheeljack_(Movie)

He's called que in the movies and that's all that matters. The comics don't matter.

His toy is also called wheeljack.

Do you refer to Brawl as devastor or Brawl because his name in the movie was Devastator in the first movie

[william-james88]

He's not Wheeljack. Get over it.

So this isnt Doublecross?



This isn't Shockwave?



This isn't Octane?



Come one, wouldn't a rose of any other name smell as sweet?

[Sabrblade]

This isn't Shockwave?

For this one, the toy, cartoon, comic, and everything else were all "Shockblast", and his personality was so far removed from every other archetypal version of Shockwave (i.e. - Shockblast's being a psychopathic mass-murderer and maniac who thrived on emotions instead of being a stoic, calculating thinker and planner who casts aside emotions for pure logic), I'd really consider him an exception from those other examples despite the obvious Shockwave influence in his visual design.

Despite the many shortcomings of the Energon cartoon, Shockblast made a name for himself by standing out as one of the legitimately cooler aspects of the show.

[Nexus Knight]

Maybe he'll also get a spoiler by the end, or a red and orange colour scheme; or the flame patterns on his chest. I don't see why he wouldn't, as this guy just screams G1 Hot Rod

Not concerned with that more concerned with an iconic character having a terrible voice.

Eh, it's entirely possible he'll die or just go away after a few movies and this will have been a weird little detour that won't really have shaped our perception of Hot Rod/Rodimus as a character archetype in the slightest and hence won't really be iconic. Happened with Wheeljack, right?

Other than the fact it isn't the G! version, what exactly is wrong with how this Roddy looks/speaks? Just because it isn't exactly like the original source doesn't necessarily make it bad. T o be honest, I prefer G1 Roddy, but I haven't seen enough of this one to make a large opinion yet.

[Kurona]

Maybe he'll also get a spoiler by the end, or a red and orange colour scheme; or the flame patterns on his chest. I don't see why he wouldn't, as this guy just screams G1 Hot Rod

Not concerned with that more concerned with an iconic character having a terrible voice.

Eh, it's entirely possible he'll die or just go away after a few movies and this will have been a weird little detour that won't really have shaped our perception of Hot Rod/Rodimus as a character archetype in the slightest and hence won't really be iconic. Happened with Wheeljack, right?

Other than the fact it isn't the G! version, what exactly is wrong with how this Roddy looks/speaks? Just because it isn't exactly like the original source doesn't necessarily make it bad. T o be honest, I prefer G1 Roddy, but I haven't seen enough of this one to make a large opinion yet.

Well, if I were to criticise the design itself; I would say it's rather bland and uninspired with an uninteresting colour scheme, no distinguishing visual characteristics and even looks like he's stolen his head from Bumblebee. On the basis of design alone, he's very forgettable and dime-a-dozen.
Haven't actually seen much of his character or his voice, though - haven't watched any clips since the original trailer. So I can't comment on that.

I was going to say here that I have to clarify my original point of the post wasn't to actually criticise this Hot Rod for not looking like G1 Hot Rod (that ship sailed back in 2007). But looking at that post I'm not actually sure what I was trying to say

[william-james88]

Other than the fact it isn't the G! version, what exactly is wrong with how this Roddy looks/speaks? Just because it isn't exactly like the original source doesn't necessarily make it bad. T o be honest, I prefer G1 Roddy, but I haven't seen enough of this one to make a large opinion yet.

I had no problems. Bay has shown from the very first movie that this isnt G1 so I dont know why fans havent caught onto that. They are just using G1 names and vague archetypes for the main characters. Aside from that, its really a new interpretation.

[Nexus Knight]

Maybe he'll also get a spoiler by the end, or a red and orange colour scheme; or the flame patterns on his chest. I don't see why he wouldn't, as this guy just screams G1 Hot Rod

Not concerned with that more concerned with an iconic character having a terrible voice.

Eh, it's entirely possible he'll die or just go away after a few movies and this will have been a weird little detour that won't really have shaped our perception of Hot Rod/Rodimus as a character archetype in the slightest and hence won't really be iconic. Happened with Wheeljack, right?

Other than the fact it isn't the G! version, what exactly is wrong with how this Roddy looks/speaks? Just because it isn't exactly like the original source doesn't necessarily make it bad. T o be honest, I prefer G1 Roddy, but I haven't seen enough of this one to make a large opinion yet.

Well, if I were to criticise the design itself; I would say it's rather bland and uninspired with an uninteresting colour scheme, no distinguishing visual characteristics and even looks like he's stolen his head from Bumblebee. On the basis of design alone, he's very forgettable and dime-a-dozen.
Haven't actually seen much of his character or his voice, though - haven't watched any clips since the original trailer. So I can't comment on that.

I was going to say here that I have to clarify my original point of the post wasn't to actually criticise this Hot Rod for not looking like G1 Hot Rod (that ship sailed back in 2007). But looking at that post I'm not actually sure what I was trying to say

Looking back at the pictures and trailer, yeah, I agree about the design. But (as I"m annoyingly optimistic) I hope that his character will help him stand out. I actually like the French accent, for two reasons. One, I don't think we've ever had a character that sounds French (that i can recall, I could be wrong). And two, it makes Transformers more diverse. In the past they've either sounded mainly American (with your different variants) and British. But that's just me. If you hate the voice, hate the voice. It's just irritating to see that argument "It's bad b/c it's not MY Transformers".

[BattleConvoy]

Darn you AMERICANS, insulting british again
I wonder if the whole point of the film is to see Prime nuke London.
Kinda insulting after Westminster D: