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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

Postby Clockwork Animations » Mon Jan 22, 2018 1:10 pm

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For Primus' sake! Really?

It was not the best movie, but COME ON!

Does it really deserve ALL these?
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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

Postby Burn » Mon Jan 22, 2018 1:38 pm

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People have to remember that The Razzies are just taking the piss. Quite often, the movies nominated are movies that I often enjoyed (I had low expectations for Baywatch but it turned out to be a good movie), while Oscar nominated movies I've either never heard of and then watch and don't really enjoy.

Critics, awards ... they don't define why you like or dislike a movie, don't let them influence your opinion.
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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

Postby Deadput » Mon Jan 22, 2018 2:02 pm

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People still care about The Razzies? Why? All they are is a pointless reward show giving bad movies people already know are bad a little meaningless title.

But by god Emoji movie is the one that deserves all of the bad rewards, there is pretty much nothing redeemable about that movie.

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Ah I see you are a valued contact at Hasbro and Paramount, good on you for having a position to talk to them...your not talking about making comments on Tf forums they don't even read do you?

(It's funny fans think their important in the grand scheme of things, that's never been true and never will be fans are just another group of customers who so happen to be over dedicated and obsessed with the property)
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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Mon Jan 22, 2018 2:11 pm

Deadput wrote:Ah I see you are a valued contact at Hasbro and Paramount, good on you for having a position to talk to them...your not talking about making comments on Tf forums they don't even read do you?

I am pretty sure Death can come to anyone.
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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

Postby Burn » Mon Jan 22, 2018 2:12 pm

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william-james88 wrote:
Deadput wrote:Ah I see you are a valued contact at Hasbro and Paramount, good on you for having a position to talk to them...your not talking about making comments on Tf forums they don't even read do you?

I am pretty sure Death can come to anyone.

*boom tish*
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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

Postby DeathReviews » Mon Jan 22, 2018 2:37 pm

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william-james88 wrote:
Deadput wrote:Ah I see you are a valued contact at Hasbro and Paramount, good on you for having a position to talk to them...your not talking about making comments on Tf forums they don't even read do you?

I am pretty sure Death can come to anyone.

*boom tish*


Yes. Yes, I can.

Anyhoo, I saw the first bayverse Transformer film in theater, but that was the only one. I shrugged and watched it for what it was, a neat live-action version of toys that I liked. I winced through the juvenile humor, the bad writing the half-baked plot, and the annoying interpretations of the main characters. I figured "Hey, it was their first outing - they're just getting a feel for things. The next movie is bound to fix all those mistakes."

And the rest is history...
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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

Postby primalxconvoy » Mon Jan 22, 2018 3:14 pm

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Burn wrote:Sorry but I can't allow the link. While I, and no doubt many others, appreciate your efforts, you're a new member, and without downloading and scanning the files myself, I simply can't allow a file from a new member to be accessed by existing members.

While I'm sure you're on the up and up, please understand WHY I've taken this route.
(By all means, if you wanted to post HOW others can download the files then please do)


That's an interesting rule. I didn't consider what you wrote before this. Is that because you cannot validate it for viruses etc? How about long term users? Can we post similar links instead? Or is it because it's in a zip and noone can tell WHAT type of files are in is (as opposed to links to "raw" files themselves? It might be worth adding it to the board rules a-proper.

I'm sure it's not copyright, as the files are there, officially, for the taking, right?

EDIT: - Could anyone here send them to you, Burn, and, once vetted, they be hosted at this site, or the links given validation?


BTW: Whats the status on this? Can we at least get a link that can get us to the link? (With search instructions)

I can understand that this site is leaning on the safe side, but for those of us who can download stuff safely at least give us a path to the link...


From what I gather, and from went Burn told me regarding the site's position on hosting/linking to full scans of the Legends comic (while it was on sale in Japan), Seibertron's "Rule 3" doesn't allow any content to be hosted or linked to while it is being sold, presumably in the USA (as the Legends comics, as part of the toys, were being sold while this site hosted/linked to images of them).

With regards to the soundtrack, there might be a time when TLKOS is unavailable, like AOE's is ( https://m.facebook.com/SteveJablonskyOf ... 4193663390 ). However, currently, TLK's is still available via iTunes. That said, the version being asked for is not the same as the version at iTunes, and is more akin to a "sample" than a full soundtrack. Thus, it could be considered as not being sold and as suitable as the comics to download.

However, Burn might have blocked the link, as he couldn't validate if it was SAFE. As the files were (ironically) grouped together in a zip folder, there is no way to know what is in them before opening. I'm not aware of any malware or viruses that can automatically infect any system upon opening a zip, though, so I'm still puzzled as to why they were removed.

You could always PM Burn, or the site. For me, someone already PMed me and simply gave me the link to get all of the files together that way.
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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Mon Jan 22, 2018 3:38 pm

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There is a difference between something being good or bad and a person liking or disliking something.

It is entirely possible to enjoy something bad or not enjoy something good.

For me, Dunkirk was an excellent retelling of an historical event, but it left me bored out of my wits. I just couldn't get into it because I wasn't the right audience for it.

Conversely, the live action Super Mario Bros. movie and the two live action Flintstones movies are all really really dumb films and I love 'em! They're so stupid but endearingly so. :-D
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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Mon Jan 22, 2018 3:53 pm

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I'm just glad 50 shades Darker was on there for pretty much every category. While TLK was disappointing, that movie series is far far worse, though still sad it stands on the same level
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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

Postby Deadput » Mon Jan 22, 2018 3:55 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:There is a difference between something being good or bad and a person liking or disliking something.

It is entirely possible to enjoy something bad or not enjoy something good.

For me, Dunkirk was an excellent retelling of an historical event, but it left me bored out of my wits. I just couldn't get into it because I wasn't the right audience for it.

Conversely, the live action Super Mario Bros. movie and the two live action Flintstones movies are all really really dumb films and I love 'em! They're so stupid but endearingly so. :-D


For me a film being "good" or "bad" means crap all as long as it's entertaining.

Like you said there have been really well crafted movies but they were just boring to watch.

Mean while there are movies that are "badly made" like the Room that leave me reeling in laughter.

This is why I like the Bay films (And the franchise as a whole) as bad as they can be, there have been some great things that I don't ignore.
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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Mon Jan 22, 2018 4:00 pm

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Deadput wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:There is a difference between something being good or bad and a person liking or disliking something.

It is entirely possible to enjoy something bad or not enjoy something good.

For me, Dunkirk was an excellent retelling of an historical event, but it left me bored out of my wits. I just couldn't get into it because I wasn't the right audience for it.

Conversely, the live action Super Mario Bros. movie and the two live action Flintstones movies are all really really dumb films and I love 'em! They're so stupid but endearingly so. :-D


For me a film being "good" or "bad" means crap all as long as it's entertaining.

Like you said there have been really well crafted movies but they were just boring to watch.

Mean while there are movies that are "badly made" like the Room that leave me reeling in laughter.

This is why I like the Bay films (And the franchise as a whole) as bad as they can be, there have been some great things that I don't ignore.
Yeah, I mean, it's okay to like something bad or not like something good if you know you're liking something bad or disliking something good. I don't get why people must insist that liking something must always mean it's good or not liking something must always mean it's bad.

Like you said, The Room is a prime example of a horrendously terrible movie that is so entertainingly fun to poke fun at with how ridiculous it is. :lol:
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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

Postby -Kanrabat- » Mon Jan 22, 2018 4:03 pm

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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

Postby megamanfan » Mon Jan 22, 2018 4:14 pm

how is the emoji movie not in more of these categories? that movie deserved nothing but scorn.
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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

Postby Burn » Mon Jan 22, 2018 4:17 pm

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You guys are making me want to watch the Emoji Movie now just to see how truly bad it is.

And quite frankly, that's going to put me over my bad movie quota for the year because I intend to watch Justice League soon. Image
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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Mon Jan 22, 2018 4:18 pm

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megamanfan wrote:how is the emoji movie not in more of these categories? that movie deserved nothing but scorn.
Cuz Fifty Shade Darker and The Mummy were just that much worse than The Emoji Movie. :P
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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

Postby Black Hat » Mon Jan 22, 2018 4:27 pm

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Burn wrote:You guys are making me want to watch the Emoji Movie now just to see how truly bad it is.

And quite frankly, that's going to put me over my bad movie quota for the year because I intend to watch Justice League soon. Image

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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

Postby carytheone » Mon Jan 22, 2018 4:37 pm

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Wait, it sounds like I can like or dislike something despite what other's think? ABSURD!

Next you'll be telling me that I shouldn't try and convince people to have the same opinion as me. That is crazy talk.

To be honest though, the only movie on any of the Razzie nom lists I've seen is 50 Shades Darker. I thought it was pretty bad and misrepresentative.

TLK is on the list... eventually :???:
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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

Postby Brokebot » Mon Jan 22, 2018 4:40 pm

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I walked away from this mess of a movie feeling like everyone who sat through it deserved an apology from everyone involved in making it. The "plot" was total nonsense, and it seemed like it was written by a focus group of kindergartners that were swapped out every 5-10 minutes.

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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

Postby Burn » Mon Jan 22, 2018 4:44 pm

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Burn wrote:You guys are making me want to watch the Emoji Movie now just to see how truly bad it is.

And quite frankly, that's going to put me over my bad movie quota for the year because I intend to watch Justice League soon. Image

You absolute madman.

Might even do them back to back!
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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

Postby Black Hat » Mon Jan 22, 2018 4:53 pm

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Burn wrote:You guys are making me want to watch the Emoji Movie now just to see how truly bad it is.

And quite frankly, that's going to put me over my bad movie quota for the year because I intend to watch Justice League soon. Image

You absolute madman.

Might even do them back to back!

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Postby Sabrblade » Mon Jan 22, 2018 5:05 pm

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Burn wrote:You guys are making me want to watch the Emoji Movie now just to see how truly bad it is.

And quite frankly, that's going to put me over my bad movie quota for the year because I intend to watch Justice League soon. Image
Justice League ended up surprising me on how much I ended up not disliking it, as it wasn't as awful as I was expecting it to be, as it ended up being a very middle-ground movie that wasn't great but also wasn't outright terrible either. It's probably the second-most decent of the DCEU films, with Wonder Woman still the only really good one.

I currently rank all the DCEU films like so:
Man of Steel: D or D-
Batman v. Superman: F
Suicide Squad: C-
Wonder Woman: A-
Justice League: C
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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

Postby Black Hat » Mon Jan 22, 2018 5:10 pm

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Burn wrote:You guys are making me want to watch the Emoji Movie now just to see how truly bad it is.

And quite frankly, that's going to put me over my bad movie quota for the year because I intend to watch Justice League soon. Image
Justice League ended up surprising me on both how much I ended up not disliking it, as it wasn't as awful as I was expecting it to be, ending up being a very middle-ground movie that wasn't great but wasn't outright terrible either. It's probably the second-most decent of the DCEU films, with Wonder Woman still the only really good one.

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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

Postby primalxconvoy » Mon Jan 22, 2018 5:14 pm

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Most, if not all of these films are, IMO, disjointed. They lack cohesion, making me not really understand what or who I was looking at, or where the action was. The plot seemed thin, the human characters tacked-on and the Transformers were basically backgrounds with phases I had trouble understanding, featuring characterisations that seemed unnecessarily cruel and not in keeping with their original selves. The injection of unnecessary violence, (underage) sexual themes/misogyny, bodily functions, racial stereotypes, over the top product placement, Chinese government brown-nosing and suchlike seemed to be included to get funding and inject interest for the more cerebrally-challenged members of society.

I can sit through and watch all kinds of bad or mass market films (Top Gun, Marvel films, Pirates of the Caribbean) but I honestly cannot follow, yet alone be even be interested in Bay's films. They are beyond offensive, as to be boring, akin to listening to schoolchildren talking offensively in a playground.

In fact, it was so bad this time around, I couldn't even be bothered to buy the dvd or ticket, just to get the limited edition toy/s in Japan. If I had watched it for free on the internet, I would have asked Paramount to pay the parts of my internet and electricity bill that was wasted watching it.
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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

Postby KVO Prime » Mon Jan 22, 2018 5:24 pm

TLK really did suck. Even my fiance, who I went with was like, 'wtf is this s**t?' I couldn't even follow anything, and the HUMAN is the last knight? Just like The Last Samurai.. give me a break. I wanted to walk out halfway through, and that is depressing for me.. :michaelbay: :michaelbay: :michaelbay: :michaelbay: :michaelbay: :michaelbay: :michaelbay: :michaelbay: :michaelbay: :michaelbay: :michaelbay: :HEADHURTS:
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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

Postby -Kanrabat- » Mon Jan 22, 2018 5:42 pm

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Justice League is not bad.
Just very, VERY disappointing.
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Transformers Podcast: Twincast / Podcast #213 - How to Say Expensive and Mean It
Twincast / Podcast #213:
"How to Say Expensive and Mean It"
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Posted: Sunday, December 9th, 2018

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