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[william-james88]

We know more than that. We know th entire mainline offering, which have not all been revealed at toyfair:

I remember that list, but I didn't know we figured all but one of them out. Do you have a version of that list with all of the blanks filled?

Emerje

No, its somewhere on TFW. If you find it, please post it here

[AgentK2]

Does anybody else find it a bit odd that Onslaught is green?

Not when he was shown to be green a long time ago.



It's just another name reuse. He's no more a Combaticon than Brawl was in the first movie.

Okay, that makes sense. Too bad though, I think Bruticus would be a great addition seeing as we've never had a proper combiner in the movies (when I say proper combiner, I exclude devastator as his appearance in the movie was drastically different than what many would have imagined it to be).

Also, I do vaguely remember seeing the green truck in those photos a while back, I must've forgotten who it represented.

[Deadput]

Okay, that makes sense. Too bad though, I think Bruticus would be a great addition seeing as we've never had a proper combiner in the movies (when I say proper combiner, I exclude devastator as his appearance in the movie was drastically different than what many would have imagined it to be).

Also, I do vaguely remember seeing the green truck in those photos a while back, I must've forgotten who it represented.

Did Devastator combiner?

Then he was a "proper" combiner because just because it was not G1 or based on a humanoid combiner doesn't mean he was not a Combiner.

Plus besides the wrecking ball joke ROTF Devastator was a heck more original of a combiner instead of just another oversized humanoid.

[AgentK2]

Okay, that makes sense. Too bad though, I think Bruticus would be a great addition seeing as we've never had a proper combiner in the movies (when I say proper combiner, I exclude devastator as his appearance in the movie was drastically different than what many would have imagined it to be).

Also, I do vaguely remember seeing the green truck in those photos a while back, I must've forgotten who it represented.

Did Devastator combiner?

Then he was a "proper" combiner because just because it was not G1 or based on a humanoid combiner doesn't mean he was not a Combiner.

Plus besides the wrecking ball joke ROTF Devastator was a heck more original of a combiner instead of just another oversized humanoid.

I wasn't trying to insult ROTF Devastator, who I also quite liked. I worded that wrong, and for that I apologize. All I meant was I'd like to see their take on the traditional combiner formula as well. I grew up with the movies, and such Devastator was my first introduction to combiners. I thought he was awesome as a kid and still do. But I'd also like to see the movie take on an enormous humanoid combiner, just because I think it would be really cool as well, y'know?

[william-james88]

Here they all are emerje:


Deluxe Class:
Wave 1:
Berserker
Slash
Barricade
BB

Wave 2:
Drift
Sqweeks
Steelbane
Slug

Wave 3:
BB
Crosshairs
Strafe
“Lightning” codename

Generations Voyager Class:
Wave 1:
Optimus
Grimlock

Wave 2:
Hound
Megatron

Wave 3:
Scorn
BB

Legion Class:
Wave 1:
Optimus
BB
Barricade
Grimlock

Wave 2:
Megatron
Dragonstorm
Drift

Wave 3
Dragonstorm

Leader
Wave 1:
Optimus
Megatron

Wave 2
Dragonstorm

if its new to you, I guess not everyone is aware and I might news it for all to see.

[william-james88]

Devastator combiner?

Not really. A combiner is made up of many robots combining into one. ROTF Devastator was just objects forming a robot together. That isnt a combiner by any TF definition so far (not even PCC combiner).

its more like a duocon but made up of 5 vehicles.

[Deadput]

Guys I think those toys are fake some people on Tfw2005 are getting evidince such as the Onslaght figure being in the exact pose as ROTF Long Haul


Hot Rod using parts from other figures like Roadbuster



Skullitron's leg is photo shopped to "remove" the dragon head





And Nitro's gun is cut off just liked the leaked photo of his toy in an image that should show the whole thing.

[Deadput]

Devastator combiner?

Not really. A combiner is made up of many robots combining into one. ROTF Devastator was just objects forming a robot together. That isnt a combiner by any TF definition so far (not even PCC combiner).

its more like a duocon but made up of 5 vehicles.

While I think of this myself is there any actual word of this like from Hasbro or the film makers?

I mean in this very movie Onslaught and Canopy are Long Haul's with new parts who is to say there are not more duplicates.

[william-james88]

Devastator combiner?

Not really. A combiner is made up of many robots combining into one. ROTF Devastator was just objects forming a robot together. That isnt a combiner by any TF definition so far (not even PCC combiner).

its more like a duocon but made up of 5 vehicles.

While I think of this myself is there any actual word of this like from Hasbro or the film makers?

None. They just reuse models because its cheaper. Plus it works within the whole idea that these are soldiers sharing similar bodies (but even then I dont think they think that far).

Also, damn it does look fake now, ****!

[AgentK2]

Guys I think those toys are fake some people on Tfw2005 are getting evidince such as the Onslaght figure being in the exact pose as ROTF Long Haul


Hot Rod using parts from other figures like Roadbuster



Skullitron's leg is photo shopped to "remove" the dragon head





And Nitro's gun is cut off just liked the leaked photo of his toy in an image that should show the whole thing.

It's definitely possible, although the part about Hot Rod having Roadbuster's legs could just mean that he's a remold, right? And with Onslaught, if they are indeed the same mold then maybe it would make sense for them to be in the same pose? I dunno, might just be me in denial considering I like the looks of these guys.

[Deadput]

It's definitely possible, although the part about Hot Rod having Roadbuster's legs could just mean that he's a remold, right? And with Onslaught, if they are indeed the same mold then maybe it would make sense for them to be in the same pose? I dunno, might just be me in denial considering I like the looks of these guys.

Nah it's definitely fake been looking on different sites and people are starting to come to the conclusion that this is a photoshop.

This is a very low rez image which as relatively easy to photo shop.

[Emerje]

We know more than that. We know th entire mainline offering, which have not all been revealed at toyfair:

I remember that list, but I didn't know we figured all but one of them out. Do you have a version of that list with all of the blanks filled?

Emerje

No, its somewhere on TFW. If you find it, please post it here

TFWorld or TFWiki? Damn abbreviations.

Kidding aside, I did find this on TFWiki.

Yeah, just one missing from wave 3 (or future wave as they put it). No chance of it being Hot Rod? No chance of a wave 4?

(Edit: Aaaand you already posted the list while I wasn't looking.)

Emerje

[Deadput]

Hey guys did you hear about that new Canopy toy rumored accessories include a backpack pile of rocks for film accuracy! /s



Those darn Hasblowers couldn't even make a new head how lazy!?! /s

[D-Maximal_Primal]

Generations Deluxe Class:
Wave 1:
“Shooting Star” listed at Amazon US and Amazon Canada
“Gamma Ray” listed at Amazon US and Amazon Canada
“Mars” listed at Amazon US and Amazon Canada
“Gas Giant” listed at Amazon US and Amazon Canada
Wave 2:
“Nova” listed at Amazon US and Amazon Canada
“Comet” listed at Amazon US and Amazon Canada
“Earth” with weapons listed at Amazon US and Amazon Canada
“Hot Gas” listed at Amazon US and Amazon Canada
Wave 3:
“Zodiac” listed at Amazon US and Amazon Canada
“Gravity” listed at Amazon US and Amazon Canada
“Saturn” listed at Amazon US and Amazon Canada
“Lightning” listed at Amazon US and Amazon Canada

Generations Voyager Class:
Wave 1:
“Jupiter” listed at Amazon US and Amazon Canada
“Lunar Eclipse” listed at Amazon US and Amazon Canada
Wave 2:
“Pluto” listed at Amazon US and Amazon Canada
“Super Nova” listed at Amazon US and Amazon Canada
Wave 3:
“Gamma Beam Grey” listed at Amazon US and Amazon Canada
“Sun” listed at Amazon US and Amazon Canada

Legion Class:
Wave 1:
“Mars” listed at Amazon US and Amazon Canada
“Lunar Eclipse” listed at Amazon US and Amazon Canada
“Gas Giant” listed at Amazon US and Amazon Canada
“Four Moons” listed at Amazon US and Amazon Canada
Wave 2:
“Pluto” listed at Amazon US and Amazon Canada
“Gravity” listed at Amazon US and Amazon Canada
“Nova” listed at Amazon US and Amazon Canada


We already deduced them all except for 1 deluxe figure. And this list excludes those TRU exclusives.

Deluxe Class:
Wave 1:
Berserker
Slash
Barricade
BB

Wave 2:
Drift
Sqweeks
Steelbane
Slug

Wave 3:
BB
Crosshairs
Strafe
“Lightning” codename

Generations Voyager Class:
Wave 1:
Optimus
Grimlock

Wave 2:
Hound
Megatron

Wave 3:
Scorn
BB

Legion Class:
Wave 1:
Optimus
BB
Barricade
Grimlock

Wave 2:
Megatron
Dragonstorm
Drift

Wave 3
Dragonstorm

Leader
Wave 1:
Optimus
Megatron

Wave 2
Dragonstorm

if its new to you, I guess not everyone is aware and I might news it for all to see.

For side by side comparison.

Though are we sure we derived this right? Some names line up, but some really don't

[william-james88]

Yeah, just one missing from wave 3 (or future wave as they put it). No chance of it being Hot Rod? No chance of a wave 4?

Emerje

Definite chance of hotrod. But wave 4, not so sure. because there are no code names beyond that and these were all from retailers so it was showing them what they would be able to order, so I dont know why they would keep a wave out. Plus it fits with the similarity of AOE being 3 waves. So sure, anyting is possible, but there is currently no evidence for it.

[william-james88]

Though are we sure we derived this right? Some names line up, but some really don't

They are not made to line up, I wasnt writng the names in any order, that might not even be the right codename left for wave 3 deluxes.

[breacher]

Onslaught almost looks like the lovechild of longhaul and mixmaster.

[breacher]

Okay, that makes sense. Too bad though, I think Bruticus would be a great addition seeing as we've never had a proper combiner in the movies (when I say proper combiner, I exclude devastator as his appearance in the movie was drastically different than what many would have imagined it to be).

Also, I do vaguely remember seeing the green truck in those photos a while back, I must've forgotten who it represented.

Did Devastator combiner?

Then he was a "proper" combiner because just because it was not G1 or based on a humanoid combiner doesn't mean he was not a Combiner.

Plus besides the wrecking ball joke ROTF Devastator was a heck more original of a combiner instead of just another oversized humanoid.

I wasn't trying to insult ROTF Devastator, who I also quite liked. I worded that wrong, and for that I apologize. All I meant was I'd like to see their take on the traditional combiner formula as well. I grew up with the movies, and such Devastator was my first introduction to combiners. I thought he was awesome as a kid and still do. But I'd also like to see the movie take on an enormous humanoid combiner, just because I think it would be really cool as well, y'know?

You really don't need to apologize. You didn't say anything negative or offensive, don't know why they got so defensive.

[Autobot Roadburn]

Honestly this Bumblebee is probably the figure I'm looking forward to most from this line, with the Megatrons and Scorn following. I know everyone's sick of Bee at this point but I still really like his design and it looks like the head sculpt and body design are going to be great on this one. The wheels actually in his ankles and the swappable gun arm just make him perfect to me as long as the actual toy looks as good as the renders. I'm alright even if he doesn't have the best paint, I've been in a customizing mood with my Star Wars figures lately.

Also if Onslaught does end up looking like Long Haul and we get a toy with even the same head from the RotF voyager I'm in. Long Haul is probably my favorite movie design next to Bee, Starscream, Jolt and Blackout.

[AgentK2]

You really don't need to apologize. You didn't say anything negative or offensive, don't know why they got so defensive.

Yeah, I pretty much just wanted to make it clear that I wasn't trying to dis a character that somebody likes, especially because I like that character myself.

[Deadput]

You really don't need to apologize. You didn't say anything negative or offensive, don't know why they got so defensive.

I wasn't being defensive I'm correcting his use on the word "proper" when it comes to a combiner.

Not everything on the internet is an insult you know it can be criticism or correcting someone.

[Deadput]

I wasn't trying to insult ROTF Devastator, who I also quite liked. I worded that wrong, and for that I apologize. All I meant was I'd like to see their take on the traditional combiner formula as well. I grew up with the movies, and such Devastator was my first introduction to combiners. I thought he was awesome as a kid and still do. But I'd also like to see the movie take on an enormous humanoid combiner, just because I think it would be really cool as well, y'know?

Why are you apologizing?

I'm only saying that Devastator was a proper combiner as well since he fits the definition of combining.

[AgentK2]

Why are you apologizing?

I'm only saying that Devastator was a proper combiner as well since he fits the definition of combining.

Yeah, I just wanted to make it clear that I wasn't trying to insult anybody or anything, as when you were saying how he was more original or whatever despite the wrecking ball joke and stuff, I took that as you thinking I was trying to dis the character and stuff which I wasn't trying to do and so I apologized for my wording. Anyway, doesn't matter much now as it seems that this guy isn't even going to be a figure. Bummer, now I want to get my hands on that Long Haul mold in some way or another.

[breacher]

Guys I think those toys are fake some people on Tfw2005 are getting evidince such as the Onslaght figure being in the exact pose as ROTF Long Haul


Hot Rod using parts from other figures like Roadbuster



Skullitron's leg is photo shopped to "remove" the dragon head





And Nitro's gun is cut off just liked the leaked photo of his toy in an image that should show the whole thing.

Could this be... FAKE NEWS?!?!?

[EvasionModeBumblebee]

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It's an interesting way to have the plasma cannon, I'm definitely not opposed to it. The pictures make me love this figure even more though, he even has the extra set of wings like the upcoming masterpiece!