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Oh, you know I amitscramtastic wrote:You are all over this aren't you shajaki!!......shajaki wrote:These flashy cases are usually limited in nature and have a collector following all of their own.
I pre-ordered it too...![]()
I can't speak to the quality of Shout's release, but I have the UK Blu-Ray and I'll tell you it's widescreen and far better than a VHS transfer. Hopefully this new one will be similar.Lucky Logician wrote:So will there be some new features included this time that weren't on previous releases? Or is this just a 1980's movie turned into VHS turned into DVD and now turned into Blu-Ray?
griftimus prime wrote:will this be widescreen? i have never seen the widescreen version. is it actually widescreen or cropped.
There is no true widescreen version. The film was formatted in 4:3 fullscreen, with all 16:9 widescreen versions having cropped off the top and bottom of the screen.griftimus prime wrote:will this be widescreen? i have never seen the widescreen version. is it actually widescreen or cropped.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Take that up with Toei, but I expect them to be as crummy about giving Scramble City and Zone to Shout! Factory for this release as they were to Sony, Metrodome, and Madman. Because that's how lousy Toei rolls.Alpha Prime wrote:In addition to a proper version of Scramble City I'd love TF: Zone to be included as an extra...
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
They did, but only because they each went a "legally-questionable" route of using an unofficial bootleg copy of Scramble City for their DVD releases of the movie. Sony got an official copy of Scramble City straight from Toei themselves for their (Sony's) DVD release of the movie, but which was video-only with no audio or subtitles, forcing them to create a fan commentary to fill in for the lack of audio and subs.o.supreme wrote:Did Metrodome (UK) and Madman (AU) not get the Audio for Scramble City? I thought they did?
There's a bit more to it than that. See, Hasbro didn't force any changes to the subtitle scripts upon Shout! Factory, Hasbro made the changes themselves. Or at least, the Hasbro team that was in charge of the brand back then, as the brand team we have now is a different one from then.o.supreme wrote:I tend to place the blame on Hasbro more than Toei. (forcing S!F to change the subtitle scripts to fit their Hasbro character names rather than the Japanese ones for Headmasters-Victory)
The difference is that Toei seems to have a better relationship with foreign market licensees that specifically specialize in the dubbing and/or subbing of Japanese motion picture media than they do with foreign market licensees that don't.o.supreme wrote:It seems other companies are releasing Toei Anime series in North America on DVD just fine.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
New Hasbro team or not, getting a complete copy of Scramble City is all in Toei's hands at this point. They just have to be willing to not shortchange Shout! Factory like they shortchanged Sony.o.supreme wrote:yeah, I figured the releases wouldn't be any better, but I didn't think they would be any worse either. Like I said I don't blame S!F. I applaud all their efforts. If Hasbro, as you say, may have a different viewpoint now, than they did in 2011 when S!F released Headmasters, Masterforce & Victory, perhaps they will realize that for this 30th anniversary release, they have to have something special, hopefully they will be able to negotiate with Toei to actually get it right this time...
Best guess is that Hasbro (old or new) simply hasn't any real interest in pursuing the shows that they don't already have easy access to.o.supreme wrote:Also...one wonders why Hasbro doesn't try to negotiate with Disney to get Car Robots/RiD, or with Nihon Ad Systems (NAS) to get BWII/Neo subbed.
The best reason that the Shout! Factory releases of the three JG1 cartoons even happened was that the UK and Australian releases had already happened previously. Hasbro and Shout! had access to preexisting materials with both the masters and the subtitle scripts that Metrodome and Madman had already used. A lot of the harder work (getting the masters from Toei, actually translating the dialogue into English subtitles, etc.) had already been done ahead of time, so all Hasbro had to do was change the scripts and give everything to Shout! Factory to work with.o.supreme wrote:I know the initial response is Hasbro doesn't believe there is a market for it...but they would be wrong. I talked to Brian Ward the producer of the S!F DVD's, and I recall him stating back in 2011 that Hasbro initially didn't want even to release Headmasters etc... in the US believing the same thing. I'm glad the folks at S!F (or whatever the powers that were) could convince them to do so...
Yeah, but it wasn't just the names and terms that were changed. Certain lines of dialogue were rewritten entirely to contradict the spoken dialogue, and other bits of dialogue were given some newly-created terminology that also altered the original context of the dialogue.o.supreme wrote:I just regret the character name changes made to the subtitles.
I'm grateful we have Karyuudo Fansubs to provide us with high quality subtitled releases of not just Beast Wars II and its movie, but also Zone, Car Robots, Micron Densetsu, and even the Beast Wars Metals movie (which never even got a DVD release in Japan!).o.supreme wrote:I guess they would have to work with Toei again to try to get the BWII movie. It's a shame all the red tape involved. Toei produces most of my favorite anime from the 70's on.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:I'm grateful we have Karyuudo Fansubs to provide us with high quality subtitled releases of not just Beast Wars II and its movie, but also Zone, Car Robots, Micron Densetsu, and even the Beast Wars Metals movie (which never even got a DVD release in Japan!).
padfoo wrote:While I am still pretty excited about this release. I wish they were actually releasing a 4K Blu-ray with this updated transfer. Instead we are getting a standard 2K Blu-ray that has been remastered from 4K content that they derived from the film.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
SW's SilverHammer wrote:Eat my ass funpub.
Burn wrote:And this is for taking Nemesis Maximo seriously.
*high fives Silly in the face*
carytheone wrote:I can't be assed to do any better right now.
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