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The very finished looking product on the Toy Fair show floor had the Sixshot helmet in red though. It should have been expected at that point that this was what was coming. If it was a legit mistake, I'd cautiously hazard a guess that later runs will be different, if they even occur.william-james88 wrote:ScottyP wrote:This is shortsighted.william-james88 wrote:I am also peeved by this. Its minimal effort.
I was referring to the fact that they showed us the toy would have retooling in their renders but ended up not giving us that. If I would not have been told I would get something, I would have a similar opinion to you.
ScottyP wrote:The very finished looking product on the Toy Fair show floor had the Sixshot helmet in red though. It should have been expected at that point that this was what was coming.william-james88 wrote:ScottyP wrote:This is shortsighted.william-james88 wrote:I am also peeved by this. Its minimal effort.
I was referring to the fact that they showed us the toy would have retooling in their renders but ended up not giving us that. If I would not have been told I would get something, I would have a similar opinion to you.
william-james88 wrote:chuckdawg1999 wrote:Is it just me or has anyone else noticed in TR that there have been more leader Decepticons? Soundwave, Six Shot, and Sky Shadow for the Decepticons with only Prime and Blaster for the Autobots.
hasbro said they were focusing on decepticons in this line and releasing all six phasers. So what you are noticing is something hasbro already confirmed is happening.
DecepticonFinishline wrote:william-james88 wrote:chuckdawg1999 wrote:Is it just me or has anyone else noticed in TR that there have been more leader Decepticons? Soundwave, Six Shot, and Sky Shadow for the Decepticons with only Prime and Blaster for the Autobots.
hasbro said they were focusing on decepticons in this line and releasing all six phasers. So what you are noticing is something hasbro already confirmed is happening.
Conversely, though, we have almost double the number Autobot Deluxes (and Titan Master) class figures when compared to the Decepticons. We'll have more big Decepticons, but as far as I've seen the numbers will still (as always) be in favor of the Autobots.
william-james88 wrote:Emerje wrote:You guys are over thinking it, it's just the crest on the original figure's forehead slightly embellished.
My dear Emerje, you are a bit out of the loop here. Look at the most recent news stories about this set and you will understand whats going on here.
william-james88 wrote:DecepticonFinishline wrote:william-james88 wrote:chuckdawg1999 wrote:Is it just me or has anyone else noticed in TR that there have been more leader Decepticons? Soundwave, Six Shot, and Sky Shadow for the Decepticons with only Prime and Blaster for the Autobots.
hasbro said they were focusing on decepticons in this line and releasing all six phasers. So what you are noticing is something hasbro already confirmed is happening.
Conversely, though, we have almost double the number Autobot Deluxes (and Titan Master) class figures when compared to the Decepticons. We'll have more big Decepticons, but as far as I've seen the numbers will still (as always) be in favor of the Autobots.
You can call it tradition then. The cons are bigger and stronger with military advantage and the autobots have numbers!
Emerje wrote:william-james88 wrote:Emerje wrote:You guys are over thinking it, it's just the crest on the original figure's forehead slightly embellished.
My dear Emerje, you are a bit out of the loop here. Look at the most recent news stories about this set and you will understand whats going on here.
Will, my friend, I do believe it is you that is out of the loop. Instead of reading the portion of my post that Diem quoted go back and read the whole post to see what we're actually talking about.
Emerje
Kurona wrote:Also, I believed them when they said it; but now I'm not entirely sure why Hasbro is telling us the Clones are their own class and the same size as the old Scouts - they're the same size as Bumblebee! Is it to do with parts count?
o.supreme wrote:Hasbro was misleading to be sure, but its nice to have something to compare them with in terms of "value"
With CW Box Sets You got a Voyager ($25 US) plus 4 Deluxes ($15 each X 4=$60) plus a Legends ($10)= $95 base price, but the fact that all 6 figures had a strong connective theme made paying roughly $100 plus tax worth it.
Now with these TR sets you get a Leader ($45) a Voyager ($25), a Deluxe ($15), a Legends ($10) and a metal TR head...lets just say $5.00 (yes its metal, but you don't get the vehicle...)
So total value is $100, same as they would be if sold individually basically....
So some might say TR sets are a better value for your dollar than the CW sets, but the randomness of characters will still no doubt lead to a ton of these getting piecemealed in the secondary market, which is fine. I think also Hasbro saves cost by packaging them in sets like this rather than individually. I guess you could say, we are kind of doing Hasbro's work for them by trying to sell them individually after purchase
Also, I don't know if anyone can confirm...but is the size/dimension of the packaging the same as a Combiner wars Combiner (Victorion, Computorn G2's...) or something closer to CW Devastator, or a slightly different size altogether?
Kurona wrote:The only new molds are the clones. Even the Titan Masters are re-used from previously released Titan Masters.
In addition to the head mode face, the robot mode torso itself is new, so it's at least not the Ptero mold's robot mode wholecloth.Randomhero wrote:Kurona wrote:The only new molds are the clones. Even the Titan Masters are re-used from previously released Titan Masters.
No the rodimus Titan master is new I'm holding it in my hand right now
Edit: you're right, the rodimus is from Ptero but we're still getting atleast one new figure in the first sets that has been confirmed won't be sold in regular retail because according to hasbro he's between deluxe and legends scale. I disagree 100% he's total legends and honestly next to laser Prime the weakest in the set to me.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:In addition to the head mode face, the robot mode torso itself is new, so it's at least not the Ptero mold's robot mode wholecloth.Randomhero wrote:Kurona wrote:The only new molds are the clones. Even the Titan Masters are re-used from previously released Titan Masters.
No the rodimus Titan master is new I'm holding it in my hand right now
Edit: you're right, the rodimus is from Ptero but we're still getting atleast one new figure in the first sets that has been confirmed won't be sold in regular retail because according to hasbro he's between deluxe and legends scale. I disagree 100% he's total legends and honestly next to laser Prime the weakest in the set to me.
Randomhero wrote:Kurona wrote:The only new molds are the clones. Even the Titan Masters are re-used from previously released Titan Masters.
No the rodimus Titan master is new I'm holding it in my hand right now
Edit: you're right, the rodimus is from Ptero but we're still getting atleast one new figure in the first sets that has been confirmed won't be sold in regular retail because according to hasbro he's between deluxe and legends scale. I disagree 100% he's total legends and honestly next to laser Prime the weakest in the set to me.
ultraimpossibleman wrote:Grand innacurration and heavy mistakes !
Diem wrote:This is exactly the kind of nonsense I'm here for.
RAR wrote:Yeah "Fastlane" sure looks like a Legends class to me. Is there any structural difference like screwed together pieces instead of ball joints ?
I'm actually a little disappointed in some ways as I liked the idea of them being about PCC commander / Scout size more - it would have given them some extra appeal.
I wonder if they might do an RID Starscream on us and repack them as Legions after all - especially in places like Europe where they are astronomically expensive it might makes sense to release them on their own cards - heck make a wave out of them with someone suitably altered as another Throttlebot to bump up the numbers instant bonus wave - for anytime between 2017/2018. since the Titanmaster gimic isn't essential for legions it might make sense to do that in places the boxed set isn't released - like South America & some places in Europe perhaps.
If they'd come with guns then I'd discounted that idea but as they lack them - I can't see any reason for them not to be legions Pounce as well perhaps - well this one at least I don't know about Wingspan and Cloudraker they might have wings big enough to bump them over the price point.
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