Sabrblade wrote:Bradimus wrote:But what does that have to do with wanting a dub of the Transformers Anime series The Headmasters, Masterforce and Victory?
It has to do with the fact that it wouldn't have mattered if those three series had been dubbed back then or not because the networks were done with Transformers back then.
Bradimus wrote:Considering
dubbed
Car Robots and what they called
The Unicron Trilogy I don't see why they view these as different. Unless they realize just how bad season 4 (
The Rebirth) really is compared to what Japan came up with (IMHO) and don't want to further embarrass themselves by dubbing the far superior Japanese seasons 4, 5 and 6.
Car Robots and the Unicron Trilogy were dubbed at a time when they were relevant and mainstream. Shucks, the Unicron Trilogy itself was even a co-production between the U.S. and Japan, with Japan filling out the finer details of the shows while the broader concepts were conceived in the West. Not to mention that the companies and actors involved in the dubbing of those shows were specialized in dubbing anime.
Conversely, the window of relevance for the three JG1 shows to be dubbed was back in 1987-1990, at which point I already mentioned that the TV networks didn't want Transformers anymore, so the best time for them to be dubbed was a time when Transformers was unwanted, and any time after that window was long since past the point of relevance for the JG1 shows. And it's not like there were that many good anime dubs back around that time anyway. Remember the original Voltron and its terribad voice acting/voice direction? Robotech was probably the best anime dub of the time and most of its voice cast would become some of the best in the LA-based anime dubbing talent pool, yet hardly any of them were in Transformers and hardly any of the Transformers cast were in anime dubs (outside of Voltron). Thus, any dub of at least The Headmasters that would have been made back then with the G1 cartoon's cast of non-anime actors mightn't have been all that good anyway. Who knows what dubs of Masterforce and Victory may have been like, or even how insane it might have been had they tried to dub Ginrai into Optimus Prime like the old Omni Productions dub did.
In any case, there's very little profit in dubbing the three JG1 shows at this point anyway since they existed primarily to sell toys that were around 28-30 years ago, so they're 28-30 years too late for a good dub of them to be relevant at this point, and anyone who has any real vested interest in watching these shows would have just watched 'em subbed by this point. And even then, that audience isn't even big enough to warrant a full dub since these three shows are so obscure and niche anyway when compared to other anime that get new dubs long after their original broadcast because of how much larger and devoted their fanbases are, making new dubs of those anime far more commercially viable.
I certainly agree with the fact that a modern *professional* English dub of the 3 anime series based on the original Transformers (Headmasters, Masterforce, and Victory), would not be financially viable in any way shape or form. But a fan can dream right? If we throw out all notions of profitability, and just *imagine* for a moment how awesome it would be...yes it would be great. My greatest fear would be that since the original series actors are aging, as we all do, and we have lost several already, would there be enough talent to replace those that have been lost? The voices of the Headmasters and Targetmasters (for instance), could probably easily be replaced since with only 3 episodes of Rebirth, there was not much to be attached to. But classic characters such as those that appeared in seasons 1-3, would be nice if we could match up as many of the living voice actors as possible, for posterity sake. With Masterforce and Victory you have mostly new characters (I would have Ginrai BE Ginrai, and not Optimus Prime as the Omni dub tried to do, obviously to avoid confusion)... It could work, and it would be amazing. Will it ever happen, NO, but a fan can dream right?
Also I would not call the projects of the 1980's such as Voltron and Robotech *dubs* per se. A dub is pretty much using ADR to translate the original scripts form Japanese into another languages (such as English), with the original story still in tact, for instance--there are legitimate English DUBS for SDF Macross in existence, as opposed to Robotech which was completely different. Voltron & Robotech took footage from multiple anime shows and blended them together, created new scripts & dialogue that really didn't match the original content. Yes *technically* dubbed voices had to be provided, but the story of Beast King Golion & Voltron are very different. Also for the record, I thought the acting on Voltron was just as good as any other show from the 1980's, not sure where the idea it was terrible came from?
Trust me, were I a rich man, I would make this happen (new dubs for the classic anime series I'm referring to). Sometimes to see something cool come to fruition is more satisfying than financial profit. Alas I am not, but it is still fun to imagine.
Bucket/Want List: Botcon 2016 Customization Class Ratchet (G2 Deco), or Customization Class Ratchet (Marvel Comics Deco) **would also be willing to pay for an Unpainted Botcon 2016 Ratchet, TT Legends Fortress Head (only) with working Electronics
Wish List of Modern Combiners: Road Caesar, Monstructor & Dinoking (proper size to fiction), Landcross, Guard City, Battle Gaia, & G2 Defensor. Wish List of Titans:Metrotitan,Majin Zarak
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My TRU may have had the deluxes at one point, but soon stocked Wave 6. Somehow, I was able to buy slugslinger at retail but never saw a misfire.
