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Sabrblade wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

bvzxa wrote:Srill going to purchase Fancy Cell Astrotrain - or - wait for Takara to get the colors right on Astrotrain -or- wait for the price to come down on Fancy Cell Astrotrain and buy him when this comes out.

every time I try to stay with Hasbro they just seem to never quite get right what I am looking for.

He's grey, black and purple, what are you expecting?

Dark gray instead of light gray?

I guess... least he is grey, not sure the dark grey would've suited him better though, it clashed pretty foully with his luscious dark purple, the light grey makes it pop better

Sabrblade wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

bvzxa wrote:Srill going to purchase Fancy Cell Astrotrain - or - wait for Takara to get the colors right on Astrotrain -or- wait for the price to come down on Fancy Cell Astrotrain and buy him when this comes out.

every time I try to stay with Hasbro they just seem to never quite get right what I am looking for.

He's grey, black and purple, what are you expecting?

Dark gray instead of light gray?

I guess... least he is grey, not sure the dark grey would've suited him better though, it clashed pretty foully with his luscious dark purple, the light grey makes it pop better

Some folks just want what they saw on TV, and would prefer it be domestically-purchased than imported.

Oh, don't I know about that Well, maybe the finished product will look darker

Fellow Seibertronians, Hasbro has released official renders of Titans Return Voyager class Astrotrain and Legends class Ravage after the Australian Toyfair Preview event concluded. Astrotrain's Titanmaster appears to be named Darkmoon, and is a straight repaint of Sentinel Prime's Titanmaster, with a new face for Astrotrain, while Ravage is an all black retool of Legends class Stripes. It is important to note, that the render shows Ravage as repaint of Stripes, the prototype shown at the toyfair has a new head.. We've mirrored the images below for your viewing pleasure. So what do you think of these renders? Interested in Astrotrain and Darkmoon? Let us know in the comments below.

Looking at the shape of the wings in the Shuttle mode of Astrotrain.....i'm definitely getting a sense of Blitzwing there

Why would you get a sense of blitzwing?

ZeroWolf wrote:Why would you get a sense of blitzwing?

Not sure, especially how we have credible rumors that say blitz is being repainted from a voyager megs that turns into a tank and jet

And just 'cuz blitz had curved wings, doesn't mean he owns that look now, otherwise, we'd never have any new or innovative jet-formers

Might wanna fix the news post, as it says that Darkmoon is a straight repaint of Infinitus, and that Ravage is a straight repaint of Stripes (he has a new head, kinda like how the official images got Rumble's Frenzy's head wrong).

Autobot N wrote:Might wanna fix the news post, as it says that Darkmoon is a straight repaint of Infinitus, and that Ravage is a straight repaint of Stripes (he has a new head, kinda like how the official images got Rumble's Frenzy's head wrong).

The robot mode of Darkmoon is a straight Sentinel repaint, and Ravage is shown here to be a straight repaint of Stripes, head and all.

Hellscream9999 wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:Why would you get a sense of blitzwing?

Not sure, especially how we have credible rumors that say blitz is being repainted from a voyager megs that turns into a tank and jet

And just 'cuz blitz had curved wings, doesn't mean he owns that look now, otherwise, we'd never have any new or innovative jet-formers

I forgot about that megs, which means we may see a new blitzwing end of 2017 or 2018 which gives a nice bit of time for people to forget about generations blitzwing and double dealer.

But yeah you can only do so much with wings so saying one con owns it is silly

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:

Autobot N wrote:Might wanna fix the news post, as it says that Darkmoon is a straight repaint of Infinitus, and that Ravage is a straight repaint of Stripes (he has a new head, kinda like how the official images got Rumble's Frenzy's head wrong).

The robot mode of Darkmoon is a straight Sentinel repaint, and Ravage is shown here to be a straight repaint of Stripes, head and all.

I'm talking about Astrotrain's face. That's certainly new tooling.
Also:

Look at this and tell me Ravage doesn't have a new head.

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:

Autobot N wrote:Might wanna fix the news post, as it says that Darkmoon is a straight repaint of Infinitus, and that Ravage is a straight repaint of Stripes (he has a new head, kinda like how the official images got Rumble's Frenzy's head wrong).

The robot mode of Darkmoon is a straight Sentinel repaint, and Ravage is shown here to be a straight repaint of Stripes, head and all.

Actually he is right about ravage, the toyfair photos have a clearly different head. As for darkmoon, his combined mode face may be new, but everything else looks to be the same as infinitus, so he is technically a repaint, since the faces are clearly separate from the titanmaster bodies.

Ravage is a cell phone! A new Hotline Bling joke for my thread.

Now Astrotrain needs some paint. He's naked, Takara cover him up!

I love how Primey that little Titan Master's head sculpt is.

Autobot N wrote:

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:

Autobot N wrote:Might wanna fix the news post, as it says that Darkmoon is a straight repaint of Infinitus, and that Ravage is a straight repaint of Stripes (he has a new head, kinda like how the official images got Rumble's Frenzy's head wrong).

The robot mode of Darkmoon is a straight Sentinel repaint, and Ravage is shown here to be a straight repaint of Stripes, head and all.

I'm talking about Astrotrain's face. That's certainly new tooling.
Also:

Ravage and Crashbash.jpg

Look at this and tell me Ravage doesn't have a new head.

You should read his post more carefully:

Hellscream9999 wrote:[...], while Ravage is an all black retool of Legends class Stripes. It is important to note, that the render shows Ravage as repaint of Stripes, the prototype shown at the toyfair has a new head. [...]

Lunatic Prime wrote:

Autobot N wrote:

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:

Autobot N wrote:Might wanna fix the news post, as it says that Darkmoon is a straight repaint of Infinitus, and that Ravage is a straight repaint of Stripes (he has a new head, kinda like how the official images got Rumble's Frenzy's head wrong).

The robot mode of Darkmoon is a straight Sentinel repaint, and Ravage is shown here to be a straight repaint of Stripes, head and all.

I'm talking about Astrotrain's face. That's certainly new tooling.
Also:

Ravage and Crashbash.jpg

Look at this and tell me Ravage doesn't have a new head.

Hellscream9999 wrote:[...], while Ravage is an all black retool of Legends class Stripes. It is important to note, that the render shows Ravage as repaint of Stripes, the prototype shown at the toyfair has a new head. [...]

Two points:
1: That comment was in response to D-max, who (you actually quoted this line) said that Ravage was a straight repaint.
2: I'm pretty sure that the edit to the news post was made after I posted that comment.

Autobot N wrote:

Lunatic Prime wrote:

Autobot N wrote:

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:

Autobot N wrote:Might wanna fix the news post, as it says that Darkmoon is a straight repaint of Infinitus, and that Ravage is a straight repaint of Stripes (he has a new head, kinda like how the official images got Rumble's Frenzy's head wrong).

The robot mode of Darkmoon is a straight Sentinel repaint, and Ravage is shown here to be a straight repaint of Stripes, head and all.

I'm talking about Astrotrain's face. That's certainly new tooling.
Also:

Ravage and Crashbash.jpg

Look at this and tell me Ravage doesn't have a new head.

Hellscream9999 wrote:[...], while Ravage is an all black retool of Legends class Stripes. It is important to note, that the render shows Ravage as repaint of Stripes, the prototype shown at the toyfair has a new head. [...]

Two points:
1: That comment was in response to D-max, who (you actually quoted this line) said that Ravage was a straight repaint.
2: I'm pretty sure that the edit to the news post was made after I posted that comment.

Yes, due to many technical difficulties, my post that had that info got devoured, and I had to rewrite parts of it. And I still maintain that Darkmoon is a repaint

I didn't realize that Ravage had a different head between the official image and the toy fair image, so sorry about that. and Yes the news post was edited during these conversations. And ok, the headmaster was retooled, but the actual large robot face was the part retooled, the headmaster robot mode was not retooled

Can it be? A rendering in an honest-to-goodness COOL pose? What is this madness?

Hellscream9999 wrote:Yes, due to many technical difficulties, my post that had that info got devoured, and I had to rewrite parts of it.

Gotcha.

Hellscream9999 wrote:And I still maintain that Darkmoon is a repaint

Fair enough, but I thought I would point it out for those that don't share your opinion.

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:I didn't realize that Ravage had a different head between the official image and the toy fair image, so sorry about that. and Yes the news post was edited during these conversations. And ok, the headmaster was retooled, but the actual large robot face was the part retooled, the headmaster robot mode was not retooled

All is well, just wanted to point that out.

I wish they'd found way to flatten the train mode more in the middle the large tower in the middle is a bit odd looking to me.

I like the robot mode very much the Shuttle mode isn't fantastic but gains a few brownie points for having a resemblance to a pre-existing vintage Takara Brave toy I guess.

Ravage is OK I guess - the addition of a set of 3rd party rockets will help a lot I guess.

Ultimately I don't have many issues with the design of the Titans Return toys - I do remain wary of the likely high pricing though.

As it stands I'm almost back to being like it was in the Galaxy Force Period - in that it's not worth me buying the Western toys when the Japanese ones cost the same sort of money and have a lot more paint on them or other reasons to prioritise them (like unique accessories in the case of the Headmasters).

Oh and sorry Hasbro but I've decided I don't care what you call them I'm going to call them Headmasters regardless - unless the cartoon persuades me otherwise. If it looks like a duck & quacks like a duck - it's a duck.

Rar, the unique accessories you get with the takara stuff you can buy on their own with the right titanmaster to go with it (call them what you want but ill stick to the official name thanks) as it stands, crash bash will likely look a bit weird from takara as it doesn't come with the titan master which properly forms his lower jaws

RAR wrote:I wish they'd found way to flatten the train mode more in the middle the large tower in the middle is a bit odd looking to me.

I like the robot mode very much the Shuttle mode isn't fantastic but gains a few brownie points for having a resemblance to a pre-existing vintage Takara Brave toy I guess.

Yes, the need to have the headmaster sit in a compartment completely ruins the train mode and the proportions it was goin' for (just look at those tiny doors and walkways - that is an astrotrain that can carry devs )