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Hey, the Decep's need a base too, bots have all three
although looking a the pictures, and the blaster review, it looks like soundwave's door cant form that little observation platform that blaster can.

Well trypticon is out next year and a possible leader class overlord

OOOH... hopeful.....
yes I voted for Trypticon, so awaiting for the 'cons to get a good base.

ZeroWolf wrote:Well trypticon is out next year and a possible leader class overlord

sixshot too however we don't know what class he is. I assume leader. I don't believe you'll be able to pull off 6 modes(if he has 6 officially) with a voyager. If sixshot is leader class than that means we'll be getting a lot of Decepticon leader class figures for a change.

I'm actually really happy with the assortment we are getting in Titans return. It's almost split in half. Usually we get 3 autobots and 1 decepticon in waves and by the end barely any decepticons. In CW we got 5 complete autobot scramble city combiners and 2 decepticons. When all the sets are out it'll be 6 autobots and 3 decepticons. I'm a decepticon guy so I'm always bummed when we don't get a lot of them.

Randomhero wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:Well trypticon is out next year and a possible leader class overlord

sixshot too however we don't know what class he is. I assume leader. I don't believe you'll be able to pull off 6 modes(if he has 6 officially) with a voyager. If sixshot is leader class than that means we'll be getting a lot of Decepticon leader class figures for a change.

I'm actually really happy with the assortment we are getting in Titans return. It's almost split in half. Usually we get 3 autobots and 1 decepticon in waves and by the end barely any decepticons. In CW we got 5 complete autobot scramble city combiners and 2 decepticons. When all the sets are out it'll be 6 autobots and 3 decepticons. I'm a decepticon guy so I'm always bummed when we don't get a lot of them.

The source that showed us the picture for TR Sixshot also said there'd be a Leader class Greatshot; which I have no doubt would be a retool/pretool of Sixshot. So yeah, I'd expect Leader class (but at the same time, I am wondering if he really will be able to pull off six modes... at the very least a base would be one of them).

And yeah, I know right? I personally like cons a lot more than bots most of the time, so I'm really happy they're having a ton of those this time around. Really excited for megsy and skullsmasher

Randomhero wrote:I'm actually really happy with the assortment we are getting in Titans return. It's almost split in half. Usually we get 3 autobots and 1 decepticon in waves and by the end barely any decepticons. In CW we got 5 complete autobot scramble city combiners and 2 decepticons. When all the sets are out it'll be 6 autobots and 3 decepticons. I'm a decepticon guy so I'm always bummed when we don't get a lot of them.

Yeah, bad guys don't sell as well, so they become faceless masses of the one ( sweep, vehicon, decepticlone)
I am looking forward to some balanced battle squads, actually, some of the best toys the last couple of years were the leader class skyraiders, vs deluxe class autobot cars, more in-scale, and more terrifying decepticon forces

Hasbro needs to bring back Supreme Class for Overlord. The guy was combiner-sized, a Leader class toy would be way too small for him, especially if there's a Godbomber upgrade coming for the PMOP/Super Ginrai mold that would make it even bigger. Overlord needs to surpass (or at least match) God Ginrai in height.

Considering how much Generations has homaged MTMTE when and if they can (even in combiner wars, First Aid managed to be styled off of his comic counterpart while in TR Chromedome and Rewind, while there for the gimmicks they're pushing, are also based off their comic counterparts), I'd be very happy to have Overlord as a leader class considering in the comics he's pretty much Magnus-sized. And it still jibes well with being the same sort of size as PM OP/Ginrai

Though really, for a true MTMTE homage, all he needs is some lovely luscious lips...

Sabrblade wrote:Hasbro needs to bring back Supreme Class for Overlord. The guy was combiner-sized, a Leader class toy would be way too small for him, especially if there's a Godbomber upgrade coming for the PMOP/Super Ginrai mold that would make it even bigger. Overlord needs to surpass (or at least match) God Ginrai in height.

I have thought that overlord would be cool as a supreme class but in the same right I do want to have him look like he could face off against leader Magnus so I also don't want him to be too big. All thought MTMTE and wreckers his size kept changing, one point he's practically the size of a combiner that's not mass displaced, then he's slightly taller of ultra magnus and at one point He's as tall as shockwave who is as tall as Optimus and then in MTMTE he's giant, then small then giant again and now in dying of light when shows up he's bigger than tarn but in the newest issue he's as tall as tarn. Sorry, it's annoying.

I'd love to see supreme class return but man they'd be like $75 now. 10 years ago they were $50 and that's how much a leader is now.

Kurona wrote:Considering how much Generations has homaged MTMTE when and if they can (even in combiner wars, First Aid managed to be styled off of his comic counterpart while in TR Chromedome and Rewind, while there for the gimmicks they're pushing, are also based off their comic counterparts), I'd be very happy to have Overlord as a leader class considering in the comics he's pretty much Magnus-sized. And it still jibes well with being the same sort of size as PM OP/Ginrai

Though really, for a true MTMTE homage, all he needs is some lovely luscious lips...

Oh you know he's totally going to have those, it'd be great if he came with two Titan masters. Giga and Mega and both very distinct faces for him. Curious if he'll train a form of his weapons gimmick

Kurona wrote:And it still jibes well with being the same sort of size as PM OP/Ginrai

Except, he supposed to be bigger than Super Ginrai, hence the latter's need to upgrade into God Ginrai to better match Overlord:

Sabrblade wrote:

Kurona wrote:And it still jibes well with being the same sort of size as PM OP/Ginrai

Except, he supposed to be bigger than Super Ginrai, hence the latter's need to upgrade into God Ginrai to better match Overlord:

And generations thundering should be the size of combiner wars devastator but he's a deluxe and its still an awesome toy. Who cares about the size. When we were kids we had to use our imagination to give our transformers knees.

Randomhero wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Kurona wrote:And it still jibes well with being the same sort of size as PM OP/Ginrai

Except, he supposed to be bigger than Super Ginrai, hence the latter's need to upgrade into God Ginrai to better match Overlord:

And generations thundering should be the size of combiner wars devastator but he's a deluxe and its still an awesome toy. Who cares about the size. When we were kids we had to use our imagination to give our transformers knees.

Honestly, as a kid, I was extremely bothered by Armada Super Mode Optimus not having leg articulation.
... I was a very lonely kid.

But yeah, I get what you're saying Sabrblade, but it's at least close. Besides, for all we know Overlord could still be a little bit taller.

Darn you sabrblade, now I want to watch Masterforce again.

When we were kids, imagination was the best tool we possessed. When I was young I inherited my cousins G1 metroplex, I had to imagine him towering over G1 prime and galvatron.

Still, I would bet money (if I had any) on overlord being leader class sized, at least. Supreme class is dead.

Kurona wrote:

Randomhero wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Kurona wrote:And it still jibes well with being the same sort of size as PM OP/Ginrai

Except, he supposed to be bigger than Super Ginrai, hence the latter's need to upgrade into God Ginrai to better match Overlord:

And generations thundering should be the size of combiner wars devastator but he's a deluxe and its still an awesome toy. Who cares about the size. When we were kids we had to use our imagination to give our transformers knees.

Honestly, as a kid, I was extremely bothered by Armada Super Mode Optimus not having leg articulation.
... I was a very lonely kid.

But yeah, I get what you're saying Sabrblade, but it's at least close. Besides, for all we know Overlord could still be a little bit taller.

You were a kid during Armada........



God damnit, I'm old.

Ironhidensh wrote:You were a kid during Armada........



God damnit, I'm old.

If it helps, I was an early teen during Armada.

And I'll second the lack of knees on Armada Super Mode Optimus being a disappointment. Most of Armada had disappointing articulation, especially coming after the wonderfully articulation-heavy Beast Era.

Ironhidensh wrote:

Kurona wrote:

Randomhero wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Kurona wrote:And it still jibes well with being the same sort of size as PM OP/Ginrai

Except, he supposed to be bigger than Super Ginrai, hence the latter's need to upgrade into God Ginrai to better match Overlord:

And generations thundering should be the size of combiner wars devastator but he's a deluxe and its still an awesome toy. Who cares about the size. When we were kids we had to use our imagination to give our transformers knees.

Honestly, as a kid, I was extremely bothered by Armada Super Mode Optimus not having leg articulation.
... I was a very lonely kid.

But yeah, I get what you're saying Sabrblade, but it's at least close. Besides, for all we know Overlord could still be a little bit taller.

You were a kid during Armada........





God damnit, I'm old.

Words right or of my mouth. I was 17 going on 18 when armada started. When beast machines ended and we got RID I was starting to sway away but Armada brought me back full force. I still think armada was a great and fun line.

We're spoiled now. Back then we were lucky to get elbows and knees on transformers because armada took a step back in articulation and simplified transformations to draw a younger audience. Now everyone throws a fit if it doesn't have a wrist swivel or ankle tilts.

I guess people have been spoilt by the marvels of modern engineering. Though they also forget it could be far worse like the titan series that hasbro put out for the marvel and star wars toys which only have five points of articulation. I'll be honest though there's some in the fandom who forget that these are toys and meant for kids. Aside from the platinum editions and masterpieces of course.

ZeroWolf wrote:I guess people have been spoilt by the marvels of modern engineering. Though they also forget it could be far worse like the titan series that hasbro put out for the marvel and star wars toys which only have five points of articulation. I'll be honest though there's some in the fandom who forget that these are toys and meant for kids. Aside from the platinum editions and masterpieces of course.

Oh it's gotten so worse over there! Not to go on a tangent but I do a Star Wars parody comic for a site using figures and it's so aggravating now that all you can do is move arms and legs up and down and swivel the head! Star Wars toys were awesome from 2005-2014 because they have such a range and that 3.75 black series is practically non existent.


Anyone ever interested in checking it out just look up 515comics on Facebook. Our logo is a red walrus

Sorry back on topic. No I've said that many times. I am someone who is fully aware these are toys and this is just a hobby of me collecting. I buy them, I play with them and I ware off the paint and I don't care. It's childish but I want toys that are fun and I have fun with what we get.

We're on the same page randomhero I didn't realise the mainline star wars figures had fallen that bad quality wise.

Ironhidensh wrote:

Kurona wrote:

Randomhero wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Kurona wrote:And it still jibes well with being the same sort of size as PM OP/Ginrai

Except, he supposed to be bigger than Super Ginrai, hence the latter's need to upgrade into God Ginrai to better match Overlord:

And generations thundering should be the size of combiner wars devastator but he's a deluxe and its still an awesome toy. Who cares about the size. When we were kids we had to use our imagination to give our transformers knees.

Honestly, as a kid, I was extremely bothered by Armada Super Mode Optimus not having leg articulation.
... I was a very lonely kid.

But yeah, I get what you're saying Sabrblade, but it's at least close. Besides, for all we know Overlord could still be a little bit taller.

You were a kid during Armada........



God damnit, I'm old.

Yyyyyup.

The variety of ages on this site always gets to me. I'm used to talking to people my age range or younger; maybe some a few years older. And then here I'm just like "oh wow I'm talking to people as old as transformers itself"

ZeroWolf wrote:We're on the same page randomhero I didn't realise the mainline star wars figures had fallen that bad quality wise.

I was a huge Star wars collector before I got into Transformers. I have well over 1000 figures spanning from when everything first started until now and it's ridiculous how drastically the line has gone down. Just a few years ago they were incredibly poseable with so much articulation it's ridiculous, now everything is 5 POA and they cost the same. For $10 you get a figure that can only move it's arms and legs. By comparison for a transformer of the same price and size they have two modes and plenty of articulation. I think this fandom often forgets how lucky they have it compared to others.

steals_your_goats wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:We're on the same page randomhero I didn't realise the mainline star wars figures had fallen that bad quality wise.

I was a huge Star wars collector before I got into Transformers. I have well over 1000 figures spanning from when everything first started until now and it's ridiculous how drastically the line has gone down. Just a few years ago they were incredibly poseable with so much articulation it's ridiculous, now everything is 5 POA and they cost the same. For $10 you get a figure that can only move it's arms and legs. By comparison for a transformer of the same price and size they have two modes and plenty of articulation. I think this fandom often forgets how lucky they have it compared to others.

I guess it's just the way it is now. Transformers are a little hallow(I personally don't mind that) and other toys are losing their articulation. The 6' SW figures are cool but like I said, I use the smaller figures for production reasons I need figures I can pose

Sabrblade wrote:

Kurona wrote:And it still jibes well with being the same sort of size as PM OP/Ginrai

Except, he supposed to be bigger than Super Ginrai, hence the latter's need to upgrade into God Ginrai to better match Overlord:

I think Kurona was referring to the MTMTE incarnations. In which case, a leader-sized Overlord would suffice. And I would buy it in an instant, lips or no lips. (But lips would be the preferred option.)

Honestly id be fine with just a tidal wave retool with a new head and knees. That's what I was hoping for when botcon did their version a few years ago. Instead we got the bludgeon mold that only works for bludgeon and kinda works for Banzai-tron