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Kurona wrote:Hasbro's current line of thinking currently seems to be at least one titan per line. Metroplex for Thrilling 30, Devastator for Combiner Wars, Fortress Maximus and Trypticon for Titans Return. Devastator fills that spot, there's nothing more to it. There's a lot more to suggest he started out as a titan class toy than not.
They had to first see how successful Metroplex was before doing any additional Titan class figures. The Titan class continuing depended on Metroplex's commercial success, and he took a while to get out to people in stores since a lot of places never stocked him. Only TRU and Costco ended up carrying him at brick-and-mortar stores. Evidently, once Metroplex's success was evaluated, Hasbro was finally able to plan their second Titan, by which point was apparently when they were planning Combiner Wars.Railbomb wrote:Kurona wrote:Hasbro's current line of thinking currently seems to be at least one titan per line. Metroplex for Thrilling 30, Devastator for Combiner Wars, Fortress Maximus and Trypticon for Titans Return. Devastator fills that spot, there's nothing more to it. There's a lot more to suggest he started out as a titan class toy than not.
I still don't think it's right that we only got one titan for Thrilling 30.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Kurona wrote:I'm sorry, but I really don't see how the vast majority of the line - literally every single Deluxe and above figure aside from the 1987 headmasters - could have been designed for a different line and then shoehorned into this one. It just seems a little ridiculous. I have no doubt that some of them were designed for a different line - again, Galvatron and Alpha Trion have been confirmed for that - but you're essentially saying, unless I'm misinterpreting here; that Chromedome, Brainstorm, Weirdwolf, Mindwipe, Skullcruncher, Highbrow, Hardhead, Fortress Maximus (and if rumours hold true, Nightbeat, Apeface and Snapdragon) were the only figures designed for Titans Return. That's... that doesn't make any sense. If it is true and all of them besides that handful were last-minute decisions, then Hastak has some extremely serious problems.
Hasbro's current line of thinking currently seems to be at least one titan per line. Metroplex for Thrilling 30, Devastator for Combiner Wars, Fortress Maximus and Trypticon for Titans Return. Devastator fills that spot, there's nothing more to it. There's a lot more to suggest he started out as a titan class toy than not.
primalxconvoy wrote:Kurona wrote:I'm sorry, but I really don't see how the vast majority of the line - literally every single Deluxe and above figure aside from the 1987 headmasters - could have been designed for a different line and then shoehorned into this one. It just seems a little ridiculous. I have no doubt that some of them were designed for a different line - again, Galvatron and Alpha Trion have been confirmed for that - but you're essentially saying, unless I'm misinterpreting here; that Chromedome, Brainstorm, Weirdwolf, Mindwipe, Skullcruncher, Highbrow, Hardhead, Fortress Maximus (and if rumours hold true, Nightbeat, Apeface and Snapdragon) were the only figures designed for Titans Return. That's... that doesn't make any sense. If it is true and all of them besides that handful were last-minute decisions, then Hastak has some extremely serious problems.
Hasbro's current line of thinking currently seems to be at least one titan per line. Metroplex for Thrilling 30, Devastator for Combiner Wars, Fortress Maximus and Trypticon for Titans Return. Devastator fills that spot, there's nothing more to it. There's a lot more to suggest he started out as a titan class toy than not.
That's exactly what I'm saying. It would not be strange to think the designers had a vision of the "2005/Movie/ 2010" G1 cartoon cast as figures, complete with different headmasters, targetmasters, etc, while other designers were working on generic headmasters (new characters) and then, later on, but not late in the design process, for one play pattern to be settled on, both to unify the designs, help with repaints and save money in design.
Trypicon's design, for example, was almost finished prior to Hasbro asking the fans what the next "Titan" was going to be. Strangely enough, that's the one the "fans" chose. I have it on good authority from an ex-employee of Hasbro that Trypicon was almost ready, prior to the announcement (and they told me that was the next intended Titan, although they didn't mention Fort Max, which might have been due to my surmised idea of a later decision for Titans Returns).
In conclusion, I don't think it would be strange for a new range of the "2010" bits to be designed, with a later decision to homogenise them into a singular play pattern. I believe that this style of thinking has evolved from the time of releasing such figures as "Springer", "Darkmount", etc (with the inclusion of multiple heads for remolds/recolours), Combiner Wars (similar designs and engineering, plus multiple recolours and remolds) to now this. I suspect this allows designers to suggest more obscure characters and for managers to allow them, due to less risk relating to the ease of inclusion in a range (as they can share engineering and production with multiple other figures).
To fit my hypothesis, it wouldn't surprise me if many TR figures were being designed around the time of Springer and Jetfire's release, and then amalgamated into Hasbro's new design ethnic of canabalising, assimilating and reusing designs to get the most out of them.
Tekka wrote:What she doesn't realize is that Springer actually loves Rodimus.
Stuartmaximus wrote:Christ! are we still on about this?
i wish i hadn't said anything now
Burn wrote:Agamemnon wrote:Let's get back to talking about Burn's mammoth snout flopping...
Well I am Australian. It's kinda what we're known for.
I like your question. I think maybe Vector is a little more regal because he is so clean and shiny. Plus that toy's size, stature, and presence is so impressive. A3 feels a little haggard by the trials of his ancient existence, and he looks kind of jaded about it.william-james88 wrote:Cobo, is that Alpha Trion the most majestic TF toy you have, or do you find Vector Prime to be more regal?
Burn wrote:Agamemnon wrote:Let's get back to talking about Burn's mammoth snout flopping...
Well I am Australian. It's kinda what we're known for.
Cobotron wrote:I like your question. I think maybe Vector is a little more regal because he is so clean and shiny. Plus that toy's size, stature, and presence is so impressive. A3 feels a little haggard by the trials of his ancient existence, and he looks kind of jaded about it.william-james88 wrote:Cobo, is that Alpha Trion the most majestic TF toy you have, or do you find Vector Prime to be more regal?
But MAN, Alpha Trion really hits all of my fantasy sci-fi adventure bullet points. Animal adorned, magic sword wielding, horn-helmed ancient mystic warrior-king transforming giant robot... with a beard.
In my line of play, that pretty much equals PERFECTION!
Cobotron wrote:Hey! Anybody try Weirdzie here with dog legs in bot mode? Giving off a heavy Beast Wars vibe, and I like it!
Cobotron wrote:I like your question. I think maybe Vector is a little more regal because he is so clean and shiny. Plus that toy's size, stature, and presence is so impressive. A3 feels a little haggard by the trials of his ancient existence, and he looks kind of jaded about it.william-james88 wrote:Cobo, is that Alpha Trion the most majestic TF toy you have, or do you find Vector Prime to be more regal?
But MAN, Alpha Trion really hits all of my fantasy sci-fi adventure bullet points. Animal adorned, magic sword wielding, horn-helmed ancient mystic warrior-king transforming giant robot... with a beard.
In my line of play, that pretty much equals PERFECTION!
william-james88 wrote:Also be weary of hope in this hobby. Hope is just undiscovered disappointment.
Agamemnon, barebacked rider of flying robo-dragon, and not often constipated either...My nephew wrote:Bacon is meat candy.
And a ferocious LIONICORN!Agamemnon wrote:Cobotron wrote:I like your question. I think maybe Vector is a little more regal because he is so clean and shiny. Plus that toy's size, stature, and presence is so impressive. A3 feels a little haggard by the trials of his ancient existence, and he looks kind of jaded about it.william-james88 wrote:Cobo, is that Alpha Trion the most majestic TF toy you have, or do you find Vector Prime to be more regal?
But MAN, Alpha Trion really hits all of my fantasy sci-fi adventure bullet points. Animal adorned, magic sword wielding, horn-helmed ancient mystic warrior-king transforming giant robot... with a beard.
In my line of play, that pretty much equals PERFECTION!
Plus he turns into the SDF-1!!
Burn wrote:Agamemnon wrote:Let's get back to talking about Burn's mammoth snout flopping...
Well I am Australian. It's kinda what we're known for.
Agamemnon wrote:Cobotron wrote:I like your question. I think maybe Vector is a little more regal because he is so clean and shiny. Plus that toy's size, stature, and presence is so impressive. A3 feels a little haggard by the trials of his ancient existence, and he looks kind of jaded about it.william-james88 wrote:Cobo, is that Alpha Trion the most majestic TF toy you have, or do you find Vector Prime to be more regal?
But MAN, Alpha Trion really hits all of my fantasy sci-fi adventure bullet points. Animal adorned, magic sword wielding, horn-helmed ancient mystic warrior-king transforming giant robot... with a beard.
In my line of play, that pretty much equals PERFECTION!
Plus he turns into the SDF-1!!
Or rather, GRANDPA UNIKITTY!Cobotron wrote:And a ferocious LIONICORN!Agamemnon wrote:Cobotron wrote:I like your question. I think maybe Vector is a little more regal because he is so clean and shiny. Plus that toy's size, stature, and presence is so impressive. A3 feels a little haggard by the trials of his ancient existence, and he looks kind of jaded about it.william-james88 wrote:Cobo, is that Alpha Trion the most majestic TF toy you have, or do you find Vector Prime to be more regal?
But MAN, Alpha Trion really hits all of my fantasy sci-fi adventure bullet points. Animal adorned, magic sword wielding, horn-helmed ancient mystic warrior-king transforming giant robot... with a beard.
In my line of play, that pretty much equals PERFECTION!
Plus he turns into the SDF-1!!![]()
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
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