The Energon Pub

Bumblebee21 wrote:if trypticon will have a robot mode i can see scorponok out of him

Why would they give Trypticon a robot mode? Isn't him being a giant robot dinosaur enough to get kids (and big kids like us) to think he's awesome and want him?

For all intents and purposes, his dino mode is his robot mode - much like how Laserbeak's bird mode is his robot mode and the cassette is his alt mode. Trypticon's alt mode in this case being the base, like Metroplex.

Kurona wrote:For all intents and purposes, his dino mode is his robot mode - much like how Laserbeak's bird mode is his robot mode and the cassette is his alt mode. Trypticon's alt mode in this case being the base, like Metroplex.

I'm well aware of that. I'm just saying there's no reason to give him an actual humanoid robot mode.

he will still be a part of titans return so he will have to have a head that comes off.

Bumblebee21 wrote:he will still be a part of titans return so he will have to have a head that comes off.

His dino head will come off and transform into Fulltilt, or whoever his little car buddy usually is. It's possible

DigitalBrave3 wrote:

Kurona wrote:For all intents and purposes, his dino mode is his robot mode - much like how Laserbeak's bird mode is his robot mode and the cassette is his alt mode. Trypticon's alt mode in this case being the base, like Metroplex.

I'm well aware of that. I'm just saying there's no reason to give him an actual humanoid robot mode.

Was just saying in general rather than responding to you.

Bumblebee21 wrote:he will still be a part of titans return so he will have to have a head that comes off.

Actually... not necessarily.
Trypticon, Scorponok and Omega Supreme were all choices in a poll for fans to vote for - ie which one should be the next titan. For them all to be put on the poll and for them to be put in Titans Return, all three would already need to have pre-made designs. And I doubt Trypticon would have been designed with a headmaster in mind.

He'll most certainly have some Titan Master integration, but not in his head. I'm betting the furthest it'll go is Full-Tilt having a Titan Master turn into his head, and being able to transform with the Titan Master still in him into a part of Trypticon's body - a bit like Fort Max, just maybe the chest instead of the head.

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:

Bumblebee21 wrote:he will still be a part of titans return so he will have to have a head that comes off.

His dino head will come off and transform into Fulltilt, or whoever his little car buddy usually is. It's possible

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his head is still attached and i dont see any robot parts on the dino head.
im just predicting and i could be wrong
i did hear talk of full tilt being added somwhere.

Bumblebee21 wrote:he will still be a part of titans return so he will have to have a head that comes off.

Just because he's a part of the line doesn't mean anything. Legends figures are apart of titans return but they don't have removable heads. Trypticon will have a base mode with titan master integration and connectors for the leader bases. That's plenty of playability to qualify him for titans return.

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:

Bumblebee21 wrote:he will still be a part of titans return so he will have to have a head that comes off.

His dino head will come off and transform into Fulltilt, or whoever his little car buddy usually is. It's possible

Actually i've got it! it just came to me what if the TM/vehicle is like Terri-Bull/Skytread & slots into the nose section to form Tryp's nose canon? but the TM/vehicle can be removed & can roll about in tank form(similar to that of Horri-Bull/Skytread) & that TM/vehicle is called Brunt

Funny thought: Both Scorponok and Omega Supreme have been headmasters (Energon counts) in the past, and the one we are getting is the one figure that was never a headmaster of the 3.

Still wish he was a titanmaster. Imagine the awesomeness of a titanmaster who transformers into a dinosaur head!

william-james88 wrote:

Cobotron wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Cobotron wrote:

DigitalBrave3 wrote:You know the Japanese Transformers: The Headmasters Cartoon? The Battlebeasts debuted in an episode of that.

With all these toys to play with, who has time to watch shows?

You dont know what you are missing Cobo, those G1 shows are really good. High quality, mature and rarely contain animation errors.

I'll get around to it either when Hasbro stops making toys or I retire.

Also, if you want the full japanese G1 experience, you have to watch Masterforce in japanese without the subtitles. Because the subtitles often lose the meaning of the poetic words.

There's some pretty good fandubs going about of those! as well as Headmasters ect.

william-james88 wrote:

Cobotron wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Cobotron wrote:

DigitalBrave3 wrote:You know the Japanese Transformers: The Headmasters Cartoon? The Battlebeasts debuted in an episode of that.

With all these toys to play with, who has time to watch shows?

You dont know what you are missing Cobo, those G1 shows are really good. High quality, mature and rarely contain animation errors.

I'll get around to it either when Hasbro stops making toys or I retire.

Also, if you want the full japanese G1 experience, you have to watch Masterforce in japanese without the subtitles. Because the subtitles often lose the meaning of the poetic words.

I mean... it's either watching a subbed version which doesn't quite nail the poetic wordplay due to different language conventions... or watching a non-subbed version where I won't be able to understand a word being said.
Think I'll go sub.

Kurona wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Cobotron wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Cobotron wrote:

DigitalBrave3 wrote:You know the Japanese Transformers: The Headmasters Cartoon? The Battlebeasts debuted in an episode of that.

With all these toys to play with, who has time to watch shows?

You dont know what you are missing Cobo, those G1 shows are really good. High quality, mature and rarely contain animation errors.

I'll get around to it either when Hasbro stops making toys or I retire.

Also, if you want the full japanese G1 experience, you have to watch Masterforce in japanese without the subtitles. Because the subtitles often lose the meaning of the poetic words.

I mean... it's either watching a subbed version which doesn't quite nail the poetic wordplay due to different language conventions... or watching a non-subbed version where I won't be able to understand a word being said.
Think I'll go sub.

Headmasters and Super-God Masterforce (where Overlord is from) are really good. Just saying. I'm glad Overlord is so likely to be released in Titans Return that it might as well be confirmed. I really liked him in God Masterforce, despite him having a bit of a confusing character concept taking the mythology of the Masterforce Cartoon into account. Seriously, if Giga and Mega's personalities make him, how is he acting as a separate entity!? Is it something similar to G1 Devastator and the other G1 Combiners or.... ?

I really need to get Brawn!

DigitalBrave3 wrote:

Kurona wrote:For all intents and purposes, his dino mode is his robot mode - much like how Laserbeak's bird mode is his robot mode and the cassette is his alt mode. Trypticon's alt mode in this case being the base, like Metroplex.

I'm well aware of that. I'm just saying there's no reason to give him an actual humanoid robot mode.

They gave him one in the Universe line, so technically there already is a Classics Trypticon out there and he has a robot mode


Transformers Classics Trypticon Gallery

DigitalBrave3 wrote:

Kurona wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Cobotron wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Cobotron wrote:

DigitalBrave3 wrote:You know the Japanese Transformers: The Headmasters Cartoon? The Battlebeasts debuted in an episode of that.

With all these toys to play with, who has time to watch shows?

You dont know what you are missing Cobo, those G1 shows are really good. High quality, mature and rarely contain animation errors.

I'll get around to it either when Hasbro stops making toys or I retire.

Also, if you want the full japanese G1 experience, you have to watch Masterforce in japanese without the subtitles. Because the subtitles often lose the meaning of the poetic words.

I mean... it's either watching a subbed version which doesn't quite nail the poetic wordplay due to different language conventions... or watching a non-subbed version where I won't be able to understand a word being said.
Think I'll go sub.

Headmasters and Super-God Masterforce (where Overlord is from) are really good. Just saying. I'm glad Overlord is so likely to be released in Titans Return that it might as well be confirmed. I really liked him in God Masterforce, despite him having a bit of a confusing character concept taking the mythology of the Masterforce Cartoon into account. Seriously, if Giga and Mega's personalities make him, how is he acting as a separate entity!?

From what I've heard of Masterforce I think I would like it, yeah - heck, it's the only one of the three G1 anime I think I would like. Headmasters being bogged down in the previous G1 cartoon's setting would make it very difficult for me to take seriously, and Victory looks a bit too... generic.
But Masterforce looks fun. Just the right mix of cheesy and anime for me; especially with Ginrai basically looking like a budget Kamina. Love me some Gurren Lagann. I'll probably get around to it one day.

I'm just excited for Overlord because he makes a friggin' amazing IDW villain. I REALLY hope that the Hasbro version comes with his IDW face, because Takara would obviously go the route of giving him the Masterforce face no matter what so it'd be a bit of a waste if Hasbro's version didn't have an IDW-accurate headsculpt. It's not Overlord without the lips.

william-james88 wrote:

DigitalBrave3 wrote:

Kurona wrote:For all intents and purposes, his dino mode is his robot mode - much like how Laserbeak's bird mode is his robot mode and the cassette is his alt mode. Trypticon's alt mode in this case being the base, like Metroplex.

I'm well aware of that. I'm just saying there's no reason to give him an actual humanoid robot mode.

They gave him one in the Universe line, so technically there already is a Classics Trypticon out there and he has a robot mode


Transformers Classics Trypticon Gallery

I forgot about that...

Kurona wrote:From what I've heard of Masterforce I think I would like it, yeah - heck, it's the only one of the three G1 anime I think I would like. Headmasters being bogged down in the previous G1 cartoon's setting would make it very difficult for me to take seriously, and Victory looks a bit too... generic.
But Masterforce looks fun. Just the right mix of cheesy and anime for me; especially with Ginrai basically looking like a budget Kamina. Love me some Gurren Lagann. I'll probably get around to it one day.

A lot of people seem to hate The Headmasters for its being not as fun or as charming as the G1 cartoon, but if you're of the opinion that the G1 cartoon could have had more of an actual story and more of an edge to it, The Headmasters does do just that. Death, murder, torture, and longterm consequences are abundant throughout The Headmasters. A massive game-changer even occurs within the first act of the show, in the two-part episodes 9 and 10. Scorponok/MegaZarak is also quite a competent and calculating villain in comparison to Megatron and Galvatron, being an outsider to the Decepticon cause who doesn't care for Galvatron's ambitions, seeing them as trivial, small-minded, or ridiculous. Once he takes over for good in the final act of the series, he sets his sights on a longterm endgame that veers straight across the rest of the series towards the series finale. And then there's Sixshot, arguably the best character in the whole series. A lethal ninja commander who proves himself time and again as a force to be reckoned with throughout the show, and undergoing a sharp change in his character growth towards the series' end.

All that aside, Masterforce is my favorite of the three and one of my favorite TF cartoons, period. Since you're probably already set to wanting to see it, I don't have to sing as much praise to this one.

Lastly, Victory is a big of a slow burn at first but does have a lot to like about it. Combiners and Combiner-sized characters are the norm of this show, with just about every character either being part of a combiner team or already having the size, mass, and power of a Combiner. The Dinoforce is probably the funniest Combiner team ever, while the Brestforce is arguably one of the best-depicted Combiner teams ever, having each of its members introduced at a gradual pace over time, and not combining until about halfway through the series, but when they do, Liokaiser is AWESOME. It's also around this point when the series takes a dramatic turn for the better, with the addition of Victory Leo to up the ante on the Autobots' side, and then the taking on a serialized form centered more around the looming threat of the Decepticons' space fortress, which eventually culminates in an epic final showdown in the series finale.

Just noticed this. Sixshot's head crest. In the G1 version it's arched. The latest makes him look like Naruto's head band

I've only seen the official images and have a few minor things to add to the overall discussion:

- Broadside's Titan Master is based on... Beta Maxx/Safeguard/Roots, like Sovereign, Alpha Trion's partner. Ergo, part-sharing confirmed, and out goes my "modeled after Armada Ramjet" theory
- Sky/Black Shadow's Titan Master (just one) is based on Giga, as is to be expected from Overlord's pretool.
- Brawn having no real Titan Master interaction like Gnaw (come on, inside his mouth?!) seems to confirm them being holdovers from Thrilling 30. If there's a chance, could anyone ask Hasbro if we can expect more like those?

:EDIT: *sighs* That headband is a standard mark for a ninja in pop culture, starting way before Naruto. So you people can stop shouting Naruto rip-off now

I'm suspecting Trypticon will be extremely large (and worry for the price point subsequently). I hope I can get it when it comes out. He'll probably be a floor only piece if I do. I've loved Trypticon since forever now. WFC got me hooked on the awesomeness of the character.

Sabrblade wrote:

Kurona wrote:From what I've heard of Masterforce I think I would like it, yeah - heck, it's the only one of the three G1 anime I think I would like. Headmasters being bogged down in the previous G1 cartoon's setting would make it very difficult for me to take seriously, and Victory looks a bit too... generic.
But Masterforce looks fun. Just the right mix of cheesy and anime for me; especially with Ginrai basically looking like a budget Kamina. Love me some Gurren Lagann. I'll probably get around to it one day.

A lot of people seem to hate The Headmasters for its being not as fun or as charming as the G1 cartoon, but if you're of the opinion that the G1 cartoon could have had more of an actual story and more of an edge to it, The Headmasters does do just that. Death, murder, torture, and longterm consequences are abundant throughout The Headmasters. A massive game-changer even occurs within the first act of the show, in the two-part episodes 9 and 10. Scorponok/MegaZarak is also quite a competent and calculating villain in comparison to Megatron and Galvatron, being an outsider to the Decepticon cause who doesn't care for Galvatron's ambitions, seeing them as trivial, small-minded, or ridiculous. Once he takes over for good in the final act of the series, he sets his sights on a longterm endgame that veers straight across the rest of the series towards the series finale. And then there's Sixshot, arguably the best character in the whole series. A lethal ninja commander who proves himself time and again as a force to be reckoned with throughout the show, and undergoing a sharp change in his character growth towards the series' end.

Thing is though, I'm really not about the G1 cartoon having a continuation that's much more drama and story-heavy. If it's a new continuity or story, then yeah, it can get away with it - that's why I'm much more willing to give Masterforce a shot since outside of a few references like Chromedome, it's so far separated from the previous continuity that it might as well be it's own new continuity. Same goes for Victory but I'm still not interested in that for other reasons.
Headmasters... is a direct continuation of G1. It still has Magnus, it still has the combiners, the city-bots, Galvatron, Rodimus, Optimus, their base on earth; all of it - even though all of those generally get fizzled out the more the series goes on, they're still there. When it's so direct a sequel and so tied-in to what happened before... whenever there's a dramatic moment or death or whatever I just won't be able to help thinking back to that time Daniel and Grimlock got sent to another dimension with princesses and magic and had to stop an alien disguised as a wizard from carrying out his evil plans. There's two very clearly different stories and tones going on here but for some reason they have the same setting. For a more extreme example it's like trying to say Hitchcock's Psycho takes place in the same universe as Scooby-Doo. I know that's extreme, but you get the idea - it just doesn't work for me.

Tyrannacon wrote:(and worry for the price point subsequently)\

hopefully $150 to $160

wait isnt trypticon supposed to be based on his FOC version.