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Cobotron wrote:Also, do we believe that Topspin employs a similar rotating transformation mechanism as Trigger Happy?

Just in the legs, but he's not a pretool of him. However, I do suspect Topspin was conceived only to provide another use for this guy:


Transformers G1 1987 Misfire Gallery

Change a few minor parts, and there ya go.

Cobtron's geeking out at a tank mode....ahh let him have his moment

+ when we first saw pics a while ago of Perceptor in this secondary alt mode....was it not classed as a Science Station or Science lab at the time

Btw i'm sure there've been other Perceptor toys that have been able to achieve tank mode

Stuartmaximus wrote:Cobtron's geeking out at a tank mode....ahh let him have his moment

Btw i'm sure there've been other Perceptor toys that have been able to achieve tank mode

Out of all 2 of them?

Kurona wrote:

Stuartmaximus wrote:Cobtron's geeking out at a tank mode....ahh let him have his moment

Btw i'm sure there've been other Perceptor toys that have been able to achieve tank mode

Out of all 2 of them?

- Microchange/G1: Yup, it even seats New Microman figures
- Generations: No, though he is a half-track.
- Classics: No, just a redeco of Cybertron Legends Red Alert. Still an army vehicle

Kurona wrote:

Stuartmaximus wrote:Cobtron's geeking out at a tank mode....ahh let him have his moment

Btw i'm sure there've been other Perceptor toys that have been able to achieve tank mode

Out of all 2 of them?

Depends if you keep it licenced or not, there might have been a few 3p ones

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Cobotron wrote:Also, do we believe that Topspin employs a similar rotating transformation mechanism as Trigger Happy?

Just in the legs, but he's not a pretool of him. However, I do suspect Topspin was conceived only to provide another use for this guy:


Transformers G1 1987 Misfire Gallery

Change a few minor parts, and there ya go.

I think Slugslinger is more likely for this mold, and Misfire with Triggerhappy.

SillySpringer wrote:I think Slugslinger is more likely for this mold, and Misfire with Triggerhappy.

You sure?

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

SillySpringer wrote:I think Slugslinger is more likely for this mold, and Misfire with Triggerhappy.

You sure?

I mean it's obvious that's what Hasbro has planned for them.


I think I remember seeing Misfire on the leaked rumor listings that have pretty much been 100% correct thus far.

Could someone find that list to confirm?

Deadput wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

SillySpringer wrote:I think Slugslinger is more likely for this mold, and Misfire with Triggerhappy.

You sure?

I mean it's obvious that's what Hasbro has planned for them.


I think I remember seeing Misfire on the leaked rumor listings that have pretty much been 100% correct thus far.

Could someone find that list to confirm?

Oh there's no doubt from anyone here that Misfire is coming, there's simply debate over whether he'll come from Triggerhappy or Topspin.

His ship and bot mode are good plane mode suck

Okay.. I guess I'll state my opinions:
Given that I just read Last Stand (First IDW series I've read other than Dark Cybertron), Perceptor looks nice. Topspin looks good due to the fact that he needed an update, and for his potential use as Misfire or Twin Twist. However, if I get either, it'll just be because I have the originals.
I actually kind of Krok, especially in Croc mode, but I also have very little connection to the character (like I said, new to IDW), and I'm technically colorblind. I also might pick up Kup, Broadside, or Brawn simply because they appear to be pretty decent figures. Roadburn is a good sign for fans of throttlebots. Sky Shadow looks pretty nice, but probably not going to be worth Leader price.
So, there's my opinion.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

SillySpringer wrote:I think Slugslinger is more likely for this mold, and Misfire with Triggerhappy.

You sure?

I am not 100% sure, but compare the two molds. Both have their similarities.







Topspin has the bulkier jet butt and two front cone pieces like Misfire, and Triggerhappy has a more similar transformation to the legs like Misfire. Plus, if you were to put tail wings on Topspin's alt mode, it would either be the pointing the wrong way in vehicle mode, OR wrong in robot mode, because the legs are upside down in alt mode for Topspin.

Who knows though? Maybe they'll use both and mix them? It seems almost just as likely now to get a new/mixed mold as a repaint with the success with TR.

Edit: It seems fairly likely to get a mixed mold for Misfire because of the pretty much predetermined need for a heavily modified body for SLugslinger, and we all know how much work they would need to put into him.


Transformers G1 1987 Slugslinger Gallery

Deadput wrote:Could someone find that list to confirm?

Yup, its here:

http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/ ... oys/36337/

But it includes both misfire and slugslinger

SillySpringer wrote:Who knows though? Maybe they'll use both and mix them? It seems almost just as likely now to get a new/mixed mold as a repaint with the success with TR.

Edit: It seems fairly likely to get a mixed mold for Misfire because of the pretty much predetermined need for a heavily modified body for SLugslinger, and we all know how much work they would need to put into him.

I'd call that off-the-wall bizarre speculation, but after Scourge and Highbrow... screw it, anything's possible. At this rate they'll find a way to retool TR Hot Rod into Masterpiece Astrotrain.

Kurona wrote:

SillySpringer wrote:Who knows though? Maybe they'll use both and mix them? It seems almost just as likely now to get a new/mixed mold as a repaint with the success with TR.

Edit: It seems fairly likely to get a mixed mold for Misfire because of the pretty much predetermined need for a heavily modified body for SLugslinger, and we all know how much work they would need to put into him.

I'd call that off-the-wall bizarre speculation, but after Scourge and Highbrow... screw it, anything's possible. At this rate they'll find a way to retool TR Hot Rod into Masterpiece Astrotrain.

It's not as off-the-wall as you think. I am a type that likes to watch reviews multiple times and study the transformations, and I can tell you that for accuracy's sake, Triggerhappy would work much better for Misfire. It makes sense also since Triggerhappy's nosecone could be retooled very easily since it's just a piece sitting on the back, whereas Topspin's cockpit assembly is very subject to base engineering. So in my opinion, they'll probably either just use Triggerhappy for Misfire, or use Topspin's base and highly change the transformation for the legs.

Edit: I will give you one issue, and that is Triggerhappy's arms. While his legs transform exactly like Misfire's, and seem pretty obviously like a pretool-ish agenda, his arms are like neither Misfire's nor Slugslinger's in alt modes. Topspin's arms actually fold into the sides just like Misfire and Slugsslinger. That's why I am thinking mold-mixing might be something they do.

ANOTHER Edit: Now that I look at it, Misfire's arms just fold up under the wings. This makes Triggerhappy look like an even more likely retool into Misfire rather than Topspin and his integrating arm transformation a la Slugslinger.

Forget Magnificus, I want that Perceptor redone as The Chairman!

I refuse to believe the back end of Broadside's jet mode is really that bad. I mean, it's not like the designers at HasTak are complete idiots. Badly mistransformed stock photos are one thing, but when have we ever actually gotten a toy whose vehicle mode wasnt superb or at the very very least justifiably, understandably, impossible to achieve accurately? Theres got to be a hidden second knee joint, or a waist swivel, or something.. Some...THING!!!

But anyway, the more i see of Black Shadow, the more i like him. Can't wait for Overlord!

Nemesis Maximo wrote:I refuse to believe the back end of Broadside's jet mode is really that bad. I mean, it's not like the designers at HasTak are complete idiots. Badly mistransformed stock photos are one thing, but when have we ever actually gotten a toy whose vehicle mode wasnt superb or at the very very least justifiably, understandably, impossible to achieve accurately? Theres got to be a hidden second knee joint, or a waist swivel, or something.. Some...THING!!!

But anyway, the more i see of Black Shadow, the more i like him. Can't wait for Overlord!

It's not just the back end - the wings are hilariously bad in their placement.

Still... this is the saving grace of a Triple Changer. If one mode's bad, it doesn't hurt the entire toy or transformation when two of them are still absolutely gorgeous. Far as I'm concerned, this dude turns into a ship and doesn't have a jet mode.

Sabrblade wrote:Forget Magnificus, I want that Perceptor redone as The Chairman!

Allez cuisine!

Wait, wrong chairman...

Emerje

Sillyspringer, you seem to be basing your theory on one flaw. You're saying they will transform exactly like g1 toys. They won't. They also wont be 100% g1 toy accurate. Well, not guaranteed. Look at kup.

Probly a dumb question but is this legit? (I don't think so)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/3222938255 ... noapp=true

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Ok, so catching up here:

1) the leader seekers were a terrible idea. 3 leader repaints in a line that had tons of repaints. It was awful. Skywarp is still clogging the walmart shelves around here, hence why in the past 2 weeks are the first times I've seen wave 1 leaders from TR, and one of the walmarts don't even have TR leaders yet. Now, I like my Thundercracker, but it was still a bad idea.

2) Roadburn, Brawn, Krok, Perceptor, and Sky Shadow are amazing. Broadsides plane mode is still shite. Kup still looks weird.

3) checked my walmarts today. they are out of TR stuff and mostly out of RiD stuff. When asked, they won't be receiving anything TF related for at least 3 weeks due to backorder. So yeah, Transformers on backorder here till at least the end of February.

Compared to this?



Not perfect but waaaaaay improved.

Heck even 3rd party managed this

I cannot believe how good this line is. I just want nearly all of them. Black Shadow is amazing, Broadside looks sweet despite the wonky jet mode, all the Deluxes are great (even Kup), and even Brawn is exciting. Best time to be a TF collector!

WreckerJack wrote:Probly a dumb question but is this legit? (I don't think so)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/3222938255 ... noapp=true

It... seems to be? The price isn't that unreasonably low, especially considering that it's being sold more-or-less 'loose' (regardless whether it's actually 'used' or not), and I can't see any differences from the official Hasbro. (Additionally, the description shows no signs of misleading information, the product itself is rated well - admittedly out of two ratings - and the seller seems to be pretty trustworthy if I'm reading the confusing eBay information correctly.) Of course, I'm nowhere close to a be-all end-all source of knowledge and advice, but to my untrained self it seems like it probably is in fact legit.

Qwan wrote:

WreckerJack wrote:Probly a dumb question but is this legit? (I don't think so)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/3222938255 ... noapp=true

It... seems to be? The price isn't that unreasonably low, especially considering that it's being sold more-or-less 'loose' (regardless whether it's actually 'used' or not), and I can't see any differences from the official Hasbro. (Additionally, the description shows no signs of misleading information, the product itself is rated well - admittedly out of two ratings - and the seller seems to be pretty trustworthy if I'm reading the confusing eBay information correctly.) Of course, I'm nowhere close to a be-all end-all source of knowledge and advice, but to my untrained self it seems like it probably is in fact legit.

What raises my red flag is that it is from China because a lot of bootlegs come out of China for lower cost. Also I do remember that a while back some stolen WWE figures were sold out of China at a super low cost too.

Edit - looks like they got a negative rating on a Sharkticon http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.d ... 9228278021

Guess my spidey senses were on point.