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Albatross250 wrote:Looks like Breakaway coudln't "Break Away" from those Insecticons

But they did "Break Away" his parts into nutrients!

Deadput wrote:

Albatross250 wrote:Looks like Breakaway coudln't "Break Away" from those Insecticons

But they did "Break Away" his parts into nutrients!

Ugh, those puns are awful. Can we please break away from such bad jokes and get back to the discussion?

Not going to bother getting excited because i know ill never find them, still havent found wave 3 & i doubt i will thanks to that stupid revised wave 2.

Megatron Wolf wrote:Not going to bother getting excited because i know ill never find them, still havent found wave 3 & i doubt i will thanks to that stupid revised wave 2.

I personally have never found jack crap except for Bumblebee and Gnaw in Toys R Us and Wave 2 took forever to get there.

I've had much more success with the Walmarts and smaller stores in my area heck in Walmart Sixshot is shelfwarming here with at least 8 or 10 of them and no I'm not joking that's what actually happened.

Just noticed something on fort max. Is there supposed to be a weapon that connects here?

william-james88 wrote:Just noticed something on fort max. Is there supposed to be a weapon that connects here?

The short answer is probably yes; the long answer likely involves cost-cutting and gutting fun additions to force higher profit margins out of him

Megatron Wolf wrote:Not going to bother getting excited because i know ill never find them, still havent found wave 3 & i doubt i will thanks to that stupid revised wave 2.

Thats too bad. Especially when my Walmart looked like this yesterday



Wish it could be the same for you.

Hellscream9999 wrote:involves cost-cutting and gutting fun additions to force higher profit margins out of him

I was just asking in case I was missing a piece because it sure looked like it.

william-james88 wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:involves cost-cutting and gutting fun additions to force higher profit margins out of him

I was just asking in case I was missing a piece because it sure looked like it.

Like I said, seems like an abandoned feature, that, in retrospect, really should have made it into the release for how paltry fort max is

Deadput wrote:

Albatross250 wrote:Looks like Breakaway coudln't "Break Away" from those Insecticons

But they did "Break Away" his parts into nutrients!

I'm going to be optimistic and say that his Titan Master partner did "Get Away" in time.

Hellscream9999 wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:involves cost-cutting and gutting fun additions to force higher profit margins out of him

I was just asking in case I was missing a piece because it sure looked like it.

Like I said, seems like an abandoned feature, that, in retrospect, really should have made it into the release for how paltry fort max is

IIRC, that red part is a recycled piece from Metroplex that has been moved to fulfil a different function (kind of like how the ramps moved from Met's legs to Max's arms). I don't remember where the red bit was on Metroplex, and I don't actually have him to check/compare, but I seem to remember that being a thing back when people were first getting Fort Max in hand.

Wolfman Jake wrote:

Deadput wrote:

Albatross250 wrote:Looks like Breakaway coudln't "Break Away" from those Insecticons

But they did "Break Away" his parts into nutrients!

I'm going to be optimistic and say that his Titan Master partner did "Get Away" in time.

Shh, don't spoil the plot twist! That was going to be Hasbro's big "Rev-eal"!

william-james88 wrote:Just noticed something on fort max. Is there supposed to be a weapon that connects here?

Izzat the side canons on his left calf?

Megatron Wolf wrote:Not going to bother getting excited because i know ill never find them, still havent found wave 3 & i doubt i will thanks to that stupid revised wave 2.

Australia never got a revised wave 2, but we did get a restock of wave 3 instead of finally getting wave 4.

Now Triggerhappy can be even more of a Shelfwarmer!

Dr Lockdown wrote:

Megatron Wolf wrote:Not going to bother getting excited because i know ill never find them, still havent found wave 3 & i doubt i will thanks to that stupid revised wave 2.

Australia never got a revised wave 2, but we did get a restock of wave 3 instead of finally getting wave 4.

Now Triggerhappy can be even more of a Shelfwarmer!

Heck yeah, 'Straya mate. Now we can have Breakaway for ever and ever and ever...

I'd honestly take a revised Wave 2 over more Wave 3 at this point, since at least then there's a chance of finding special Chromedomes instead of the exact same figures I already have. Of course best case scenario would be Wave 4 actually showing up, but since I'd gotten every figure I wanted from TR so far, I knew our luck wouldn't hold up forever.

fenrir72 wrote:Izzat the side canons on his left calf?

Yep, it's the funny lumpy thing that sits on the side of the leg and does nothing. Unfortunately if those connections points are leftover from Metroplex (with the actual parts they connect to being gone), as I'm pretty sure is the case, they mean nothing and the funny lumpy thing still doesn't do anything.

Qwan wrote:

Dr Lockdown wrote:

Megatron Wolf wrote:Not going to bother getting excited because i know ill never find them, still havent found wave 3 & i doubt i will thanks to that stupid revised wave 2.

Australia never got a revised wave 2, but we did get a restock of wave 3 instead of finally getting wave 4.

Now Triggerhappy can be even more of a Shelfwarmer!

Heck yeah, 'Straya mate. Now we can have Breakaway for ever and ever and ever...

I'd honestly take a revised Wave 2 over more Wave 3 at this point, since at least then there's a chance of finding special Chromedomes instead of the exact same figures I already have. Of course best case scenario would be Wave 4 actually showing up, but since I'd gotten every figure I wanted from TR so far, I knew our luck wouldn't hold up forever.

Australia always gets the short end of the stick. Whilst America doesn't give out enough stock overall, Australia doesn't get it to begin with.

Dr Lockdown wrote:

Qwan wrote:

Dr Lockdown wrote:

Megatron Wolf wrote:Not going to bother getting excited because i know ill never find them, still havent found wave 3 & i doubt i will thanks to that stupid revised wave 2.

Australia never got a revised wave 2, but we did get a restock of wave 3 instead of finally getting wave 4.

Now Triggerhappy can be even more of a Shelfwarmer!

Heck yeah, 'Straya mate. Now we can have Breakaway for ever and ever and ever...

I'd honestly take a revised Wave 2 over more Wave 3 at this point, since at least then there's a chance of finding special Chromedomes instead of the exact same figures I already have. Of course best case scenario would be Wave 4 actually showing up, but since I'd gotten every figure I wanted from TR so far, I knew our luck wouldn't hold up forever.

Australia always gets the short end of the stick. Whilst America doesn't give out enough stock overall, Australia doesn't get it to begin with.

I wouldn't say always, necessarily - there are people on these very boards (including Megatron Wolf apparently) who haven't even seen Wave 3 yet, while Australia was the first country in which they turned up. But we definitely don't have it any easier than other countries either, I'll agree on that! I randomly found some Thrilling 30 Deluxes in a small-business toy store last year and I was ecstatic - apparently, all of Australia's big chains didn't even carry that line at all (which would explain why I never saw them, heh).

Qwan wrote:

Dr Lockdown wrote:

Megatron Wolf wrote:Not going to bother getting excited because i know ill never find them, still havent found wave 3 & i doubt i will thanks to that stupid revised wave 2.

Australia never got a revised wave 2, but we did get a restock of wave 3 instead of finally getting wave 4.

Now Triggerhappy can be even more of a Shelfwarmer!

Heck yeah, 'Straya mate. Now we can have Breakaway for ever and ever and ever...

I'd honestly take a revised Wave 2 over more Wave 3 at this point, since at least then there's a chance of finding special Chromedomes instead of the exact same figures I already have. Of course best case scenario would be Wave 4 actually showing up, but since I'd gotten every figure I wanted from TR so far, I knew our luck wouldn't hold up forever.

fenrir72 wrote:Izzat the side canons on his left calf?

Yep, it's the funny lumpy thing that sits on the side of the leg and does nothing. Unfortunately if those connections points are leftover from Metroplex (with the actual parts they connect to being gone), as I'm pretty sure is the case, they mean nothing and the funny lumpy thing still doesn't do anything.

Have you tried to disconnect it? Some reviewers have but iirc the Takara version doesn't mention this.

fenrir72 wrote:

Qwan wrote:

Dr Lockdown wrote:

Megatron Wolf wrote:Not going to bother getting excited because i know ill never find them, still havent found wave 3 & i doubt i will thanks to that stupid revised wave 2.

Australia never got a revised wave 2, but we did get a restock of wave 3 instead of finally getting wave 4.

Now Triggerhappy can be even more of a Shelfwarmer!

Heck yeah, 'Straya mate. Now we can have Breakaway for ever and ever and ever...

I'd honestly take a revised Wave 2 over more Wave 3 at this point, since at least then there's a chance of finding special Chromedomes instead of the exact same figures I already have. Of course best case scenario would be Wave 4 actually showing up, but since I'd gotten every figure I wanted from TR so far, I knew our luck wouldn't hold up forever.

fenrir72 wrote:Izzat the side canons on his left calf?

Yep, it's the funny lumpy thing that sits on the side of the leg and does nothing. Unfortunately if those connections points are leftover from Metroplex (with the actual parts they connect to being gone), as I'm pretty sure is the case, they mean nothing and the funny lumpy thing still doesn't do anything.

Have you tried to disconnect it? Some reviewers have but iirc the Takara version doesn't mention this.

If you mean taking the whole chunk off his leg, then yep that's totally possible just by disconnecting the mushroom peg (I've done it a couple times myself), but the stress it causes can run the risk of bending the tabs on his blue leg covers, so be careful with that.

If you mean taking the red bit off the rest of the blue chunk, I haven't tried myself, but off the top of my head (without checking on Max) I think it would be possible. I don't know what it'd be useful for, though. Examining pictures of Metroplex, it looks like that piece used to be a little gun emplacement that sat on top of his left torso-half (like, the bit right next to his actual shoulder if that makes sense). Since that part has been entirely remolded/replaced on Max, the piece definitely can't connect there any more so if you take it off the blue part, it actually can't attach to FM anywhere .

Stupid question did we ever get a definite answer about Topspin being a heavy retool of Triggerhappy? They share the same basic transformation including the torso spin and several reviewers have said as much.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Stupid question did we ever get a definite answer about Topspin being a heavy retool of Triggerhappy? They share the same basic transformation including the torso spin and several reviewers have said as much.

*takes a deep breath holding a megaphone*

...

*tosses the megaphone away*

No, he is not as the Titan Master design does not match and they don't share parts. Sorry, but those reviewers are just plain wrong.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Stupid question did we ever get a definite answer about Topspin being a heavy retool of Triggerhappy? They share the same basic transformation including the torso spin and several reviewers have said as much.

*takes a deep breath holding a megaphone*

...

*tosses the megaphone away*

No, he is not as the Titan Master design does not match and they don't share parts. Sorry, but those reviewers are just plain wrong.

Is sharing parts a necessity in a retool? I honestly believe that they are and that they share a common buck or frame

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Stupid question did we ever get a definite answer about Topspin being a heavy retool of Triggerhappy? They share the same basic transformation including the torso spin and several reviewers have said as much.

*takes a deep breath holding a megaphone*

...

*tosses the megaphone away*

No, he is not as the Titan Master design does not match and they don't share parts. Sorry, but those reviewers are just plain wrong.

Is sharing parts a necessity in a retool? I honestly believe that they are and that they share a common buck or frame

All evidence we have so far indicates that Titan Masters (or at least their torsos) carry over if the figure shares any parts at all. Since Topspin doesn't share TMs with Triggerhappy, then we can surmise that he doesn't share parts and is therefore not a retool. If he doesn't share parts but does share some transformation tricks, then maybe it's "shared engineering", but that's not the same thing as a retool - just like how Chromedome shares almost all of Dead End's engineering but isn't a retool, since the former's mold wasn't actually reworked from the latter's in any way.

For more on the subject and some interesting facts about other similar TFs that aren't actually related: http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Retool#Not_actually_a_retool

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Stupid question did we ever get a definite answer about Topspin being a heavy retool of Triggerhappy? They share the same basic transformation including the torso spin and several reviewers have said as much.

*takes a deep breath holding a megaphone*

...

*tosses the megaphone away*

No, he is not as the Titan Master design does not match and they don't share parts. Sorry, but those reviewers are just plain wrong.

Is sharing parts a necessity in a retool? I honestly believe that they are and that they share a common buck or frame

If we wanna get technical, then yes. Sharing engineering or transformation steps is quite common, more than you think.

Qwan wrote:

Dr Lockdown wrote:

Qwan wrote:

Dr Lockdown wrote:

Megatron Wolf wrote:Not going to bother getting excited because i know ill never find them, still havent found wave 3 & i doubt i will thanks to that stupid revised wave 2.

Australia never got a revised wave 2, but we did get a restock of wave 3 instead of finally getting wave 4.

Now Triggerhappy can be even more of a Shelfwarmer!

Heck yeah, 'Straya mate. Now we can have Breakaway for ever and ever and ever...

I'd honestly take a revised Wave 2 over more Wave 3 at this point, since at least then there's a chance of finding special Chromedomes instead of the exact same figures I already have. Of course best case scenario would be Wave 4 actually showing up, but since I'd gotten every figure I wanted from TR so far, I knew our luck wouldn't hold up forever.

Australia always gets the short end of the stick. Whilst America doesn't give out enough stock overall, Australia doesn't get it to begin with.

I wouldn't say always, necessarily - there are people on these very boards (including Megatron Wolf apparently) who haven't even seen Wave 3 yet, while Australia was the first country in which they turned up. But we definitely don't have it any easier than other countries either, I'll agree on that! I randomly found some Thrilling 30 Deluxes in a small-business toy store last year and I was ecstatic - apparently, all of Australia's big chains didn't even carry that line at all (which would explain why I never saw them, heh).

First country? Didn't seem like that for Sydney.

Dr Lockdown wrote:

Qwan wrote:

Dr Lockdown wrote:Australia always gets the short end of the stick. Whilst America doesn't give out enough stock overall, Australia doesn't get it to begin with.

I wouldn't say always, necessarily - there are people on these very boards (including Megatron Wolf apparently) who haven't even seen Wave 3 yet, while Australia was the first country in which they turned up. But we definitely don't have it any easier than other countries either, I'll agree on that! I randomly found some Thrilling 30 Deluxes in a small-business toy store last year and I was ecstatic - apparently, all of Australia's big chains didn't even carry that line at all (which would explain why I never saw them, heh).

First country? Didn't seem like that for Sydney.

Yeah, it didn't spread that quickly (just like any other wave) but I'm pretty sure the first sighting of Wave 3 Deluxes was in a city somewhere along the East coast-ish. I'll see if I can dig up the article, hang on...

EDIT: Yep, found it! Reviews of some Wave 3 Deluxes date from before this article but it's definitely the earliest "sighting" of Wave 3 in Seibertron's news feed: https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... ail/36781/
Assuming that this was actually the first sighting, I got lucky and found them near me (Southeast coast) before any other sightings had been reported - but that definitely doesn't mean they came out everywhere so quick. Case in point, at least one Australian fan has found Sky Shadow at retail now and I haven't seen any Leaders since Wave 1 (save two Soundwaves who appeared alongside PMOP and Blaster, and promptly disappeared).

Qwan wrote:Yep, found it! Reviews of some Wave 3 Deluxes date from before this article but it's definitely the earliest "sighting" of Wave 3 in Seibertron's news feed: https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... ail/36781/
Assuming that this was actually the first sighting, I got lucky and found them near me (Southeast coast) before any other sightings had been reported - but that definitely doesn't mean they came out everywhere so quick. Case in point, at least one Australian fan has found Sky Shadow at retail now and I haven't seen any Leaders since Wave 1 (save two Soundwaves who appeared alongside PMOP and Blaster, and promptly disappeared).

So wait, Skyshadow yet I've seen no sign of Sixshot? What the hell?!