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Sabrblade wrote:

william-james88 wrote:Just curious, a lot of people are quick to come up with ideas of redecos and retools for things they want, like a headmaser arcee. But would you really buy this if you saw it in stores?

Cheets got a lot of positive feedback for that, especially for its deviating from the (stereo)typical "super model" fembot look that Hasbro's been so accustomed to giving us over the years.

Thing is, that works... for a new female character. Much in the same way Strongarm and Pyra Magna work.
But it doesn't really fit Arcee who has always been characterised visually as very athletic and lithe. She's not exactly what you'd imagine as a generic soldier or a tank. then again I've never liked arcee outside of TFP so whatever

Guys, I got a crazy idea. How about we just make a new mold? I know I know, its nonsense.


Kiddin aside, if we do get another Arcee, I would rather it be an IDW arcee. I always liked how the artists made it to that the car front splits in half, creating that silouette on the back. Looks like a fun transformation. And anyway, I think we already know all the Titans Return toys coming out right?

Does anyone out there have a breakdown of what to expect from wave 1-wave 4 2017 for the generations line based on the rumours?

william-james88 wrote:Guys, I got a crazy idea. How about we just make a new mold? I know I know, its nonsense.


Kiddin aside, if we do get another Arcee, I would rather it be an IDW arcee. I always liked how the artists made it to that the car front splits in half, creating that silouette on the back. Looks like a fun transformation. And anyway, I think we already know all the Titans Return toys coming out right?

Does anyone out there have a breakdown of what to expect from wave 1-wave 4 2017 for the generations line based on the rumours?

Wait, what? As far as I know, Voyagers aside we only know up to and including TR Wave 4. I didn't know that there was any info on the deluxes, legends, titan masters and leaders in Waves 5 and 6. ... though it's a pretty easy bet that Frenzy and Eject will be there, at least. And I think we had some miscellaneous ones scattered about like Delta Magnus but nothing about a full wave's contents.

Kurona wrote:

william-james88 wrote:Guys, I got a crazy idea. How about we just make a new mold? I know I know, its nonsense.


Kiddin aside, if we do get another Arcee, I would rather it be an IDW arcee. I always liked how the artists made it to that the car front splits in half, creating that silouette on the back. Looks like a fun transformation. And anyway, I think we already know all the Titans Return toys coming out right?

Does anyone out there have a breakdown of what to expect from wave 1-wave 4 2017 for the generations line based on the rumours?

Wait, what? As far as I know, Voyagers aside we only know up to and including TR Wave 4. I didn't know that there was any info on the deluxes, legends, titan masters and leaders in Waves 5 and 6. ... though it's a pretty easy bet that Frenzy and Eject will be there, at least. And I think we had some miscellaneous ones scattered about like Delta Magnus but nothing about a full wave's contents.

Ok, so simple question: which wave is perceptor supposed to come out in?

william-james88 wrote:

Kurona wrote:

william-james88 wrote:Guys, I got a crazy idea. How about we just make a new mold? I know I know, its nonsense.


Kiddin aside, if we do get another Arcee, I would rather it be an IDW arcee. I always liked how the artists made it to that the car front splits in half, creating that silouette on the back. Looks like a fun transformation. And anyway, I think we already know all the Titans Return toys coming out right?

Does anyone out there have a breakdown of what to expect from wave 1-wave 4 2017 for the generations line based on the rumours?

Wait, what? As far as I know, Voyagers aside we only know up to and including TR Wave 4. I didn't know that there was any info on the deluxes, legends, titan masters and leaders in Waves 5 and 6. ... though it's a pretty easy bet that Frenzy and Eject will be there, at least. And I think we had some miscellaneous ones scattered about like Delta Magnus but nothing about a full wave's contents.

Ok, so simple question: which wave is perceptor supposed to come out in?

Yeah, that's an odd one. Wave 4's Kup, Topspin (or Twin Twist, I forget), Quake and Krok, right? So Perceptor's either in Wave 5, 6, or a special boxset but the latter is very unlikely since that's usually reserved for redecoes and retools and apparently he's supposed to be a new mold and blaaaah.
... so yeah, either 5 or 6. More likely 5 bc it doesn't make a lot of sense we'd get info on Wave 6 before Wave 5.

Kurona wrote:

william-james88 wrote:Ok, so simple question: which wave is perceptor supposed to come out in?

Yeah, that's an odd one. Wave 4's Kup, Topspin (or Twin Twist, I forget), Quake and Krok, right? So Perceptor's either in Wave 5, 6, or a special boxset but the latter is very unlikely since that's usually reserved for redecoes and retools and apparently he's supposed to be a new mold and blaaaah.
... so yeah, either 5 or 6. More likely 5 bc it doesn't make a lot of sense we'd get info on Wave 6 before Wave 5.

See, we do have more info than just half of next year

Theres also that Bumblebee redeco as Chase thats unacounted for unless its in the second 2017 legends wave with Seaspray and Cosmos. Also he leader class might not have a lot of releases. This year only has 4 new Leader class TFs and we already know 2 of the ones coming out next year.

There are also too many titan masters rumoured for just one extra wave:

Repugnus (C1100)
Shuffler (C1101)
Ramhorn
Toraiser
Optimus Prime

Wasn't there a rumor about a Powered Convoy (Delta Magnus ) repaint of Leader Ultra Magnus?

william-james88 wrote:

Kurona wrote:

william-james88 wrote:Ok, so simple question: which wave is perceptor supposed to come out in?

Yeah, that's an odd one. Wave 4's Kup, Topspin (or Twin Twist, I forget), Quake and Krok, right? So Perceptor's either in Wave 5, 6, or a special boxset but the latter is very unlikely since that's usually reserved for redecoes and retools and apparently he's supposed to be a new mold and blaaaah.
... so yeah, either 5 or 6. More likely 5 bc it doesn't make a lot of sense we'd get info on Wave 6 before Wave 5.

See, we do have more info than just half of next year

Theres also that Bumblebee redeco as Chase thats unacounted for unless its in the second 2017 legends wave with Seaspray and Cosmos. Also he leader class might not have a lot of releases. This year only has 4 new Leader class TFs and we already know 2 of the ones coming out next year.

There are also too many titan masters rumoured for just one extra wave:

Repugnus (C1100)
Shuffler (C1101)
Ramhorn
Toraiser
Optimus Prime

Oh right I thought you meant like, full details. Like a list of all four Wave 5 deluxes and whatnot rather than little random bits of info.

william-james88 wrote:Guys, I got a crazy idea. How about we just make a new mold? I know I know, its nonsense.


Kiddin aside, if we do get another Arcee, I would rather it be an IDW arcee. I always liked how the artists made it to that the car front splits in half, creating that silouette on the back. Looks like a fun transformation. And anyway, I think we already know all the Titans Return toys coming out right?

I totally agree. I got Nightbird instead of the Generations figure because if I get any G1-ish Arcee it would be MMC's IDW figure.
I would like an Elita One out of Blurr though. I think that is more important than a Headmaster Arcee.

I'd not say not to the Diaclone / Movie test footage colour Ultra Magnus from the Combiner Wars Mould but would it be more likely for him to be a hybrid of Optimus and Magnus Parts ? with a Titanmaster instead of a Minion-driver.

Perhaps this is a case where they could make good use of the platinum brand as they did with the larger Ultra Magnus (weaponiser Optimus redeco) - which reminds me I totally forgot to buy that thing.

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As for Arcee Blurr with a few minor part changes is the obvious choice for Arcee assuming she doesn't get a new mould.

I'd raise a slight eyebrow at a Chromedome repaint - but I'd at least understand why it's like that for historical reasons.

But if they did release that as a chromedome repaint - I think the existing Generations Arcee would be quite safe on people's shelves still.

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I got my SDCC Fort Max today - I cry False Advertising as he didn't come in the cool American shipping case with the face of Maximus on it - it was just a regular Hasbro shipping case with his name slapped all over it - like it was a case of My little Pony toys or a box of ferbies.

Lame. so he's not so much an "actual "SDCC exclusive as he is a UK retailer special order specific release/re-release of the same toy.

So a bit like a GDO item really.

Funny place to start a collection with the biggest item as he's my First Titan's Returns toy (not counting CW Legends Buzzsaw).

It might be November before I get some more as that is when they usually have a decent sale and when shops actually bother getting some stock in after Firework night & Halloween is out of the way and they can start gearing up for Xmas proper.

Oh yeah, since I got Chromedome that's me finally starting my TR collection.

He's... not bad. Funnily enough I never got Dead End or any of his moldmates before so this is my first time experiencing the engineering. He's a bit weaker than expected, but overall a really solid figure. Nothing special but he easily fills the MTMTE Chromedome spot.

Two things though:-
-The guns are utter crap. I just... I really don't like them. There's something really off about them when trying to peg into a hand or other slot that just doesn't feel as right as other pegs. And they really don't look good either.
-Stylor is TINY. Like... oh my gosh. I was expecting them to be small but not this small! Not saying it as a bad thing I just find it really hilarious. How were they able to get that much sculpted detail on something so small?

The gun can slot in on the roof - some people are hesitant to use that placement though for fear of harming the paint - I'd be tempted to get the Takara and Hasbro one both and then just lend either or the two smaller guns.

Kurona wrote:Two things though:-
-The guns are utter crap. I just... I really don't like them. There's something really off about them when trying to peg into a hand or other slot that just doesn't feel as right as other pegs. And they really don't look good either.

The guns are not made to be held side by side since your right, it does look as good as a CW jet with both weapons under each wing
Instead, you shouuld seat your titanmaster inside the bigger gun, and attach the smaller gun on top of the larger gun. Like that it becomes a turret

Cobotron wrote:Wasn't there a rumor about a Powered Convoy (Delta Magnus ) repaint of Leader Ultra Magnus?

Yes, he will be part of a box set with some clones, a voyager, another deluxe and a new titan master. I forget which set he comes in, its somewhere in this thread.

william-james88 wrote:

Kurona wrote:Two things though:-
-The guns are utter crap. I just... I really don't like them. There's something really off about them when trying to peg into a hand or other slot that just doesn't feel as right as other pegs. And they really don't look good either.

The guns are not made to be held side by side since your right, it does look as good as a CW jet with both weapons under each wing
Instead, you shouuld seat your titanmaster inside the bigger gun, and attach the smaller gun on top of the larger gun. Like that it becomes a turret

Cobotron wrote:Wasn't there a rumor about a Powered Convoy (Delta Magnus ) repaint of Leader Ultra Magnus?

Yes, he will be part of a box set with some clones, a voyager, another deluxe and a new titan master. I forget which set he comes in, its somewhere in this thread.

I thought that rumor was a repaint of Powermaster Prime with Godbomber(Iron Apex)?

If they didn't insist on painting themselves into corners with their gimic lines so much they could have sold God Bomber as a Voyager - I suppose you still could say he's kind of a triple changer if they gave him an armoured car mode and a robot mode and a the ability to disguise some of his parts to look like part of optimus' trailer + the addition of the ability to pull to pieces to combine with Optimus.

They can either count the combination as a 4th mode or ignore it and say he has 3 (one of which is a trailer) if they were clever about it it might even be possible to combine him with Magnus as well so they can get a repaint out of it too.

I can't see any other way to do it that wouldn't just be kinda disappointing.
Optimus isn't up to much as he is so something that added play value would help - a lot especially if the pieces can expand the some what lacking Optimus base mode too.

Okay everybody stand back I got this. Every rumored figure thus far, in no particular order other than size class:

Titan master:
-Repugnus
-Shuffler
-Optimus
-Toraizer
-Ramhorn

Legends:
-Seaspray
-Chase
-Brawn
-Cosmos

Deluxe:
-Perceptor
-Kup
-Topspin
-Quake
-Krok
-Arcee

Voyager:
-Blitzwing
-Octane
-Broadside
-Vector Prime

Leader:
-Overlord

Speed set:
-Titan master Thunderclap
-Deluxe Fast lane
-Deluxe Cloudraker
- Deluxe Nautica
-Leader Quickswitch

Strength set:
- Deluxe Pounce
- Deluxe Wingspan
- Deluxe Iron Apex
-Voyager Tidal Wave
-Leader Magnus Prime

Unknown exclusive:
Die cast Titan Master Powerhouse

steals_your_goats wrote:Okay everybody stand back I got this.

... ...
Now exactly what level Wizard are you?

Noideaforaname wrote:

Bronzewolf wrote:

Wow, they took a massive chunk out of that. I mean, I don't know if the sleeper section really improves anything (where's it even go in robot mode?), but it's still rather startling to see they made such a drastic change.

Yeah....it's a pity that Takara never reinstated it! coz it would've filled in that ugly gap! instead they just added & gave him platform shoes

steals_your_goats wrote:Okay everybody stand back I got this. Every rumored figure thus far, in no particular order other than size class:

Titan master:
-Repugnus
-Shuffler
-Optimus
-Toraizer
-Ramhorn

Legends:
-Seaspray
-Chase
-Brawn
-Cosmos

Deluxe:
-Perceptor
-Kup
-Topspin
-Quake
-Krok
-Arcee

Voyager:
-Blitzwing
-Octane
-Broadside
-Vector Prime

Leader:
-Overlord

Speed set:
-Titan master Thunderclap
-Deluxe Fast lane
-Deluxe Cloudraker
- Deluxe Nautica
-Leader Quickswitch

Strength set:
- Deluxe Pounce
- Deluxe Wingspan
- Deluxe Iron Apex
-Voyager Tidal Wave
-Leader Magnus Prime

Unknown exclusive:
Die cast Titan Master Powerhouse

You missed out TRypticon! actually....if it's rumored....then you also missed out Scorponok & Omega Supreme!

Stuartmaximus wrote:

steals_your_goats wrote:Okay everybody stand back I got this. Every rumored figure thus far, in no particular order other than size class:

Titan master:
-Repugnus
-Shuffler
-Optimus
-Toraizer
-Ramhorn

Legends:
-Seaspray
-Chase
-Brawn
-Cosmos

Deluxe:
-Perceptor
-Kup
-Topspin
-Quake
-Krok
-Arcee

Voyager:
-Blitzwing
-Octane
-Broadside
-Vector Prime

Leader:
-Overlord

Speed set:
-Titan master Thunderclap
-Deluxe Fast lane
-Deluxe Cloudraker
- Deluxe Nautica
-Leader Quickswitch

Strength set:
- Deluxe Pounce
- Deluxe Wingspan
- Deluxe Iron Apex
-Voyager Tidal Wave
-Leader Magnus Prime

Unknown exclusive:
Die cast Titan Master Powerhouse

You missed out TRypticon! actually....if it's rumored....then you also missed out Scorponok & Omega Supreme!

Trypticon was already officially revealed; adding it would be like adding Hot Rod or Megatron. Scorponok and Omega Supreme would not be part of Titans Return.

[quote="Stuartmaximus]
You missed out TRypticon! actually....if it's rumored....then you also missed out Scorponok & Omega Supreme![/quote]
I didn't miss them because they're not rumored. Trypticon is coming out for sure and the other two are speculated based on the fan vote. Those aren't rumors.

Stuartmaximus wrote:You missed out TRypticon! actually....if it's rumored....then you also missed out Scorponok & Omega Supreme!

Trypticon is confirmed, not rumored. And the other 2 are rumored to come, but they won't come in this line most likely

*edit: double sniped

Y'know....i'm surprised that one character they haven't yet visited with the Titans Returns.......is Sideways


coz they could take CW Deluxe Groove, repaint & slighltly remold it to add the TM feature (i mean they've already slightly remolded it as Afterburner)...& voila! you have Sideways

Ya know Stu, you keep throwing stuff out here and I like this one. It is interesting they haven't done anything with Sideways.

Now where is my IDW Sunstreaker fellas..

Chunky and yummy! Optimus I mean.