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william-james88 wrote:

Sigma Magnus wrote:Okay, so...kinda rethinking my TR priority list. So far, here's said list:

-Sixshot, to go with Galvatron, Wolfwolf Weirdwolf, Skullcruncher, and Mindwipe
-Misfire and Slugslinger, to go with Triggerhappy
-Topspin and Twintwist
-Kup and Perceptor
-Broadside
-Legends Brawn

Hoping to get all the deluxes beyond wave three, but money is an issue.
Yays, nays?

Broadside is a nay while Perceptor and Sixshot are quite weak compared to the rest.

Yay for Topsspin, twinTwist and Kup

Broadside is pretty okay with me. His robot mode is great. His aircraft carrier mode is pretty good. Unfortunately, mine came with already creased and peeling stickers. The jet mode is a disaster, but some unofficial fan transformations help a bit.

I just got Sixshot too, and I love him! I don't know why so many people are disappointed. Yeah, most of the modes don't "tab in" everywhere, but the joints on mine are tight enough that he holds his shape no problem, no matter the alt mode. His knees are just a little loose, but not so much that he flops over. He's a solid 8/10 for me.

I don't have Perceptor yet. What makes him "weak" in your opinion? From the in hand pictures and video reviews I've seen, he looks terrific. The extra G1 aspect of him turning into a microscope again really has me intrigued, despite loving how well his Reveal the Shield mold turned out several years ago.

RAR wrote:I was fine with the Previous two.

The Bumblebee I'm "waiting for" is a decent representation of the 2007 Movie 1970's Camero Bee.

Well, this is a "G1/Classics" thread, so I'm speaking from a G1/Classics perspective. More power to you if you like Live Action Movie Bumblebee, though.

I also wanted to give a thumbs up for sixshot. He's everything I have wanted in an update for him. Plus he can keep his Titan master head on throughout the transformation, which is an awesome bonus in this line, much like sky shadow and, presumably, overlord.

william-james88 wrote:

Kurona wrote:I'm at an impasse concerning the Jumpstarters. Ideally I'd get both but money's tight so I don't want to double up on characters I don't exactly have a connection to.

I thought you would be all over them due to their connection (and most intense scene ever) in Last Stand of the Wreckers.

Didn't enjoy LSOTW that much. I respect it for the fantastic story it is but it's not quite my thing and I didn't feel particularly connected to a lot of the characters.

Wolfman Jake wrote:I don't have Perceptor yet. What makes him "weak" in your opinion? From the in hand pictures and video reviews I've seen, he looks terrific. The extra G1 aspect of him turning into a microscope again really has me intrigued, despite loving how well his Reveal the Shield mold turned out several years ago.

First off, right on on the TR Bee thing. Gimme some paw!
Second, agree with you on Six Shot.

But about Perceptor. You know I'm pretty easy going, accepting of flaw, and generally positive about 99% of these toys, and while by no means is Perceptor terrible, there is something off about him. The robot mode looks good. His legs are a little wiggly due to transformation joints, but nothing that can't be dealt with. Microscope mode looks just right, and the vague/not vague inclusion of the tank mode is great. But there are some moving parts that have no explanation. He feels incomplete in some strange way that's hard to pin down. I'm beginning to suspect he is a victim of the back and forth that happens between the money men/execs and the design team in most corporate creative endeavors. His design raises a lot of questions for me.

I think you'll like him Jake, he is very Neo G1 almost to the point of no "Neo". Once you get him, let us know what you think, and if any part of him raises questions for you.

Kurona wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Kurona wrote:I'm at an impasse concerning the Jumpstarters. Ideally I'd get both but money's tight so I don't want to double up on characters I don't exactly have a connection to.

I thought you would be all over them due to their connection (and most intense scene ever) in Last Stand of the Wreckers.

Didn't enjoy LSOTW that much. I respect it for the fantastic story it is but it's not quite my thing and I didn't feel particularly connected to a lot of the characters.

I'll 2nd the lsotw comment. Didn't do it for me either really and still feel really disconnected since it seemed to really resonate with other fans and not me. Not sure if it was the cartoonist art style, verity, not being the wreckers I remember growing up with from marvel uk, them seeming kind of like Dinobots gone wrong, or what, but it just wasn't my thing for whatever reason.

Kurona wrote:I'm at an impasse concerning the Jumpstarters. Ideally I'd get both but money's tight so I don't want to double up on characters I don't exactly have a connection to.

The dilemma? I remember having Twin Twist (or maybe one of his many KOs?) as a kid, probably from a car boot sale or something; so I wanna get him because nostalgia. ... buuuut, Top Spin looks infinitely cooler. Help

Nah, just 20% cooler

Twin Twist is still rather unique with his drill tank alt mode, in fact I can only think these others:

- G1 Zetar aka Drill Dasher
- G1 Nosecone
- Victory Drillhorn / Rescue Force 3
- Zone Drillbuster
- Armada Drill Bit
- Cybertron Drill Bit
- Cybertron Menasor
- CW Nosecone
- UW Nosecone

... compared to the multitude of jets, Cybertronian or not.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Kurona wrote:I'm at an impasse concerning the Jumpstarters. Ideally I'd get both but money's tight so I don't want to double up on characters I don't exactly have a connection to.

The dilemma? I remember having Twin Twist (or maybe one of his many KOs?) as a kid, probably from a car boot sale or something; so I wanna get him because nostalgia. ... buuuut, Top Spin looks infinitely cooler. Help

Nah, just 20% cooler

Twin Twist is still rather unique with his drill tank alt mode, in fact I can only think these others:

- G1 Zetar aka Drill Dasher
- G1 Nosecone
- Victory Drillhorn / Rescue Force 3
- Zone Drillbuster
- Armada Drill Bit
- Cybertron Drill Bit
- Cybertron Menasor
- CW Nosecone
- UW Nosecone

... compared to the multitude of jets, Cybertronian or not.

Very, very true; Twin Twist would absolutely have an alt-mode that stands out and sets him apart. Something I hadn't considered.

... on the other hand, I am an absolute bloody sucker for Cybertronian jets when done well. And Top Spin definitely goes under 'done well'.
In a perfect world I'd get both and I love how both look, but goddamn is this world far from perfect

Seibertron wrote:

Kurona wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Kurona wrote:I'm at an impasse concerning the Jumpstarters. Ideally I'd get both but money's tight so I don't want to double up on characters I don't exactly have a connection to.

I thought you would be all over them due to their connection (and most intense scene ever) in Last Stand of the Wreckers.

Didn't enjoy LSOTW that much. I respect it for the fantastic story it is but it's not quite my thing and I didn't feel particularly connected to a lot of the characters.

I'll 2nd the lsotw comment. Didn't do it for me either really and still feel really disconnected since it seemed to really resonate with other fans and not me. Not sure if it was the cartoonist art style, verity, not being the wreckers I remember growing up with from marvel uk, them seeming kind of like Dinobots gone wrong, or what, but it just wasn't my thing for whatever reason.

For me it's not really a question of quality - I still think it's a fantastic piece of work and it excelled in what it set out to do. I'm just not a fan of things that are that gritty and dark MTMTE/LL strikes the right balance for me.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Nah, just 20% cooler

Oh, you.


Legends figures? I'll also agree with Bumblebee being really solid! I've owned the Classics Bumblebee mold twice (my original Classics broke and I ended up replacing it with RTS Bee), and while they were a pretty good size for old Classics, TR Bee is pretty fantastic in any new-Generations display. Smaller to fit with the more "compact" figure sizes, really well-engineered and good QC from what I can tell, and aside from those window-bicep-spikes he looks pretty fab in both modes. And Wolfman Jake is right, his headsculpt is fantastic and spot-on (despite suffering ever-so-slightly from dull surprise, he still does a better job dealing with that than the MP did).

But I also do have to toss another vote in for Wheelie. As one of the people who seemingly got a "good copy", i.e. one that actually almost holds together, I really must say that the design of that toy is just fantastic. It may not be such a popular pick any more (I remember it was back in Wave 1, but we have way more figures to choose from now) but I still think he's among some of TR's best toys - provided you get a decently solid one I suppose.

Kurona wrote:Actually yeah, I'm wondering... of the 6 Voyager molds we have so far, what does everyone feel about them? I've only got Megatron and I adore him, but what about Galvatron, Trion, Sentinel/Astro, Broad and Prime/Tankor? How do they rank against Megs if you've got him?

In order of the ones I have:

Alpha Trion
...
...
...
Astrotrain
Megatron
Galvatron

Galvatron is the weakest by a significant mile, and the voyager I've played with the least.

TR Megatron is sort of close but the fact that it took a full 2 hours to get the legs to work for alt modes and then another 2 weeks to get it to do consistently was a headache. and his modes feel very weak to me.

Astrotrain is pretty good, but the train mode feels real weak.

Alpha Trion has a pretty cool ship mode, but the lion mode is the best alt mode of any voyager figure so far that I own, and the paintwork is marvelous, as in puts all other voyagers to complete shame. And there are no shoddy stickers or large areas of gray to upset the balance.

Bumblebee21 wrote:

Kurona wrote:I'm not sure what's to dislike about Megatron's deco myself; in-person it looks fantastic. Aside from Doomshot, of course.

the grayness of the plastic..
as soon i get it im painting it silver.

Amen to both. The stickers are pathetic and the gray is... no. Combiner Wars Megs nailed the paint job and the colors. TR desperately needed the CW Megs colors and paint

Emerje wrote:

Kurona wrote:I haven't liked the pylons either, I tried it on Megatron and it just looks... odd.

The pylons are really it or miss on some of these. They're kinda pointless on Sentinel, but they work for Astrotrain since he had them in the cartoon. They look good on Alpha Trion (and Leo Prime) since it works as a headdress. Prime's are necessary since they're his ears, but they're pointless and kinda awful on Octone. Can take or leave Broadside's since they're I guess weapons, they're just kinda there. Blitzwing's I'm undecided on, he had them in the cartoon, but probably looks better without them.

It's nice that they're optional anyway. Then there's Galvatron...

Emerje

With regards to the pylons and head pieces for voyagers, only Alpha Trion has really nailed it. I don't like the Galva-helmet, Astrotrain doesn't use his pylons, and neither does Megs. They don't look good.

Kurona wrote:Was Classics Astrotrain not good?

But yeah nah, I didn't own T30 Blitzwing but everywhere I went said it was a QC-ridden mess. And the alt-modes really don't do it any favours. I think the TR mold I have now is a straight improvement.

Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeh, gotta disagree.

See earlier comments in this post. I don't like that TR tank/jet mold, and I actually like T30 Blitz. The shoulders are a bit of a flop, but they are almost on par with the TR legs, and Blitz pulls off better modes in my opinion.

Sigma Magnus wrote:Okay, so...kinda rethinking my TR priority list. So far, here's said list:

-Sixshot, to go with Galvatron, Wolfwolf Weirdwolf, Skullcruncher, and Mindwipe
-Misfire and Slugslinger, to go with Triggerhappy
-Topspin and Twintwist
-Kup and Perceptor
-Broadside
-Legends Brawn

Hoping to get all the deluxes beyond wave three, but money is an issue.
Yays, nays?

Unless you really really really want a Sixshot just cause, avoid him. Place him lower on the priorities. the mold is a disappointment, easily the weakest leader I've ever handled, and I have many.

SureShot18 wrote:On another note, what does everyone think is the best Legends in TR? I only have Rewind, Gnaw, and Kickback but of the three I think I have to give it to Kickback. But Rewind is no slouch, especially with my bias, and Gnaw is ridiculously lovely.

Rewind by far. Easily the legends class figure I've had the most fun with since Swerve, and he is a perfect little triple changer. Loads of fun. Gnaw is cute in sharkticon mode, but robot mode is mostly junk. Laserbeak and Ravage are sort of forgettable. Wheelie is pretty cool, but Rewind beats him up cause Rewind actually holds together in alt mode.

william-james88 wrote:I thought you would be all over them due to their connection (and most intense scene ever) in Last Stand of the Wreckers.

Main reason why I am excited for them. I am finally getting my Wreckers dream team, and they are killing it. Wave 4 has 3 wreckers alone (4 if you count Perceptor, but he is headed for the Lost Light shelf). Really Hasbro, why can't we get a non-crap non-FoC Impactor to go with the team?

Kurona wrote:Didn't enjoy LSOTW that much. I respect it for the fantastic story it is but it's not quite my thing and I didn't feel particularly connected to a lot of the characters.

You are dead to me

Seibertronian Azt has let us know that the highly sought after Sky Shadow figure is now available at the Hasbro Toy Shop! The figure is selling for $44.99 and is available for free shipping. You can find the listing HERE but make sure you buy him fast, as he has been flying off the shelves wherever he has been seen!

And for those looking for one of those HTS deals, fellow Seibertronian stealyourgoats found the following way to get a %20 off coupon:

steals_your_goats wrote:You can also sign up for their emails and get a 20% off coupon. I got him for $38 shipped.

he looks cool

Literally the day after I preorder him.

You can also sign up for their emails and get a 20% off coupon. I got him for $38 shipped. Not a spectacular deal but still better than full price.

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Unless you really really really want a Sixshot just cause, avoid him. Place him lower on the priorities. the mold is a disappointment, easily the weakest leader I've ever handled, and I have many.

Wow, thats a far cry from the times you said he was close to being perfect. Now he's the worse leader of all time? It looks like your opinion on him is lowering by the hour

And trust me, there are worse leaders. The seekers, for example. And I dont find sixshot so much worse than the other Titans Return leaders aside from Sky Shadow. The leaders have all been a bit ho hum for me due to them all being similar to other leader figures, and quite simple compared to the more ingenious deluxes.

Terrsolpix wrote:Literally the day after I preorder him.

How is that so bad, is it because you preordered him for a heftier price?

william-james88 wrote:

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Unless you really really really want a Sixshot just cause, avoid him. Place him lower on the priorities. the mold is a disappointment, easily the weakest leader I've ever handled, and I have many.

Wow, thats a far cry from the times you said he was close to being perfect. Now he's the worse leader of all time? It looks like your opinion on him is lowering by the hour

And trust me, there are worse leaders. The seekers, for example. And I dont find sixshot so much worse than the other Titans Return leaders aside from Sky Shadow. The leaders have all been a bit ho hum for me due to them all being similar to other leader figures, and quite simple compared to the more ingenious deluxes.

Terrsolpix wrote:Literally the day after I preorder him.

How is that so bad, is it because you preordered him for a heftier price?

i dont see whats wrong with sixshot.. i havent opened him yet.
whats wrong with the seeker mold. i do think that by the skywarp mold things were harder to keep tabbed in. like the shoulders.
of course i like galvatron where everyone else hate him. so theres that

Bumblebee21 wrote:whats wrong with the seeker mold. i do think that by the skywarp mold things were harder to keep tabbed in. like the shoulders.
of course i like galvatron where everyone else hate him. so theres that

There isnt so much wrong with the seeker mold, my problem is how it is reused from a mold that I would have preferrerd remained unique.

But there are still problems with it like the holes at the back end of the jet mode that are left from jetfire, and how the wings look like cheese graters. The seekers always have colours on the wings that we can see in robot mode, it adds to the colour variance.

While Jetfire looked awesome, the seekers come off as cheap reuses with not as much colour variance.

Thanks for the heads up on Black shadow at HTS!

TRIGGER PULLED!

william-james88 wrote:

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Unless you really really really want a Sixshot just cause, avoid him. Place him lower on the priorities. the mold is a disappointment, easily the weakest leader I've ever handled, and I have many.

Wow, thats a far cry from the times you said he was close to being perfect. Now he's the worse leader of all time? It looks like your opinion on him is lowering by the hour

And trust me, there are worse leaders. The seekers, for example. And I dont find sixshot so much worse than the other Titans Return leaders aside from Sky Shadow. The leaders have all been a bit ho hum for me due to them all being similar to other leader figures, and quite simple compared to the more ingenious deluxes.

Well he is close to being good, but is frustratingly not there. The weak knees are a real let down since he can only stand straight upright, the arms are not very movable, and those stickers. Plus all the modes feel close to alright, but they just aren't good. The wolf and tank modes are the only ones I feel are worth it, and those are the only 2 I really use. Sub/gun mode is yeck, car mode is not impressive, and the jet mode just won't work because of the wings and the way the arms are supposed to stay in place but don't. plus his guns are weak and he is just.... too simple.

I really like the leader seeker mold, and I find it better than Sixshot. Thundercracker has loads more presence, personality, and at least he can hold his poses.

IDK, the wave 3 Megatron and Sixshot were major disappointments for what I had hoped for, and they are very much overshadowed by deluxes and titan masters(!!!). Blaster was a good mold too, and one that I would enjoy more if it was a mobile alt mode instead of a boombox.

And compared to Jetfire, Thundercracker, Blaster, Ultra Magnus, and Megatron, he just doesn't feel up to their snuff. I know your opinion on Megatron, but I love him to death, so there is some slight bias there, but I still find him a better figure.

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:And compared to Jetfire, Thundercracker, Blaster, Ultra Magnus, and Megatron, he just doesn't feel up to their snuff. I know your opinion on Megatron, but I love him to death, so there is some slight bias there, but I still find him a better figure.

CW Leader Megatron has a waaaaay better deco than TR Sixshot I will give you that

I signed up for HTS months ago, so unless they have a promo, there's no way to get Sky Shadow at a reduced price currently for me. I'll wait. Its amazing that after months of never seeing a Soundwave to the point that I ordered with my HTS coupon back in Feb, now 'm seeing him everywhere. In fact many stores have all 3 leaders (PM Prime, Blaster & Soundwave). I guess the one Sixshot I saw and obtained was a freak accident, but glad I did...I still don't quite get why a store that at one time got *newer* leaders would later be restocked with older ones?...

I mean there is still a Wal-Mart store that back in December had Leader Prime & Blaster (which obviously sold), but now they have 4 CW Skywarps...???

I'm slowly starting to see wave 4 but its all kinds of Random... Krok & Quake at Walgreens, Broadside at Target, and the TM's at Target & Wal-Mart months ago (which are all gone now). Still have yet to see Perceptor, Topspin, the Legends, or Sky Shadow (the only wave 4 character I want) at B&M.

o.supreme wrote:I signed up for HTS months ago, so unless they have a promo, there's no way to get Sky Shadow at a reduced price currently for me. I'll wait. Its amazing that after months of never seeing a Soundwave to the point that I ordered with my HTS coupon back in Feb, now 'm seeing him everywhere. In fact many stores have all 3 leaders (PM Prime, Blaster & Soundwave). I guess the one Sixshot I saw and obtained was a freak accident, but glad I did...I still don't quite get why a store that at one time got *newer* leaders would later be restocked with older ones?...

I mean there is still a Wal-Mart store that back in December had Leader Prime & Blaster (which obviously sold), but now they have 4 CW Skywarps...???

I'm slowly starting to see wave 4 but its all kinds of Random... Krok & Quake at Walgreens, Broadside at Target, and the TM's at Target & Wal-Mart months ago (which are all gone now). Still have yet to see Perceptor, Topspin, the Legends, or Sky Shadow (the only wave 4 character I want) at B&M.

Sign up with a different email address. If you don't have one, go create a quick Gmail account and use that for to get the promo code.

^ That was going to be my next plan actually, but I actually signed up again with the same e-mail address and I still got the promo code...whatever works

Hey guys, you know how Broadside's carrier mode has pegs for the little Aerialbot jets on it? I just found out that Broadside's jet mode also has pegs for those little jets, some of these pegs are only found in Jet Mode. Meaning you can put the little Aerialbots all over Broadside's Jet Mode in addition to his Carrier Mode, which means that if the Aerialbots are meant to represent the sizes of normal jets, then Broadside's Jet Mode ain't no normal-sized jet. His Jet Mode's a biggun!

Of course we know way back when the original series Fort Max was the pinnacle of Transformers "Bigness". But for GI Joe fans it was the USS Flag. I often think about this in comparison with Broadside (which I know is completely unfair)...but man, if they could have modified that into a Transformer, what an amazing monstrosity it would have been