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william-james88 wrote:
He wasnt released under Titans return

I see. (You should add him anyways just for the sake of city expansion)

william-james88 wrote:

Deadput wrote:Hey Will you might be forgetting someone in that base collection ya got there eh?

He wasnt released under Titans return

At the very least, the instruction sheet does bear the subtitle-less "Generations" logo.

I decided to take some side by side pics of Magnus Prime and Ginrai. There's not a lot of differences.

Ginrai has a white codpiece with red paint plus the bottom of the chest piece is red instead of silver.


Ginrai has white spots on the chest instead of silver. His windows are also a lighter blue.


Ginrai has no red paint on the side.

Magnus prime has a much bigger Autobot symbol.


Ginrai has white symbols instead of silver.


Ginrai has just slightly darker red paint on the fists.


Ginrai is significantly different in the head department.


Ginrai has gray guns instead of black.


Hasbro superior, Takara inferior.

kurthy wrote:Hasbro superior, Takara inferior.

I would have to disagree, in that I feel that pretty much all of those changes seem mostly superficial, with the exception of the larger Autobot symbols on the trailer/legs looking more garish and gaudy compared to Super Ginrai's smaller ones that look more subtle and less in-your-face about themselves.

kurthy wrote:Hasbro superior, Takara inferior.

Nah, Hasbro uses inferior paints period.
I think both are the same but Takara is screen accurate to how Ginrai looked on Masterforce.

I think the paint choices are rather dull but a good substitute for those who do not have the Takara version. If I had my choice I would still pick Takara for the paint apps. Hasbro did do a good job for the price point tho...

Sabrblade wrote:

kurthy wrote:Hasbro superior, Takara inferior.

I would have to disagree, in that I feel that pretty much all of those changes seem mostly superficial, with the exception of the larger Autobot symbols on the trailer/legs looking more garish and gaudy compared to Super Ginrai's smaller ones that look more subtle and less in-your-face about themselves.

A agree. Ginrai still looks better to me.

william-james88 wrote:

Deadput wrote:Hey Will you might be forgetting someone in that base collection ya got there eh?

He wasnt released under Titans return

...neither was God Bomber.

william-james88 wrote:This isn't the last of these articles though, there will be a follow up with Takara's exclusive God Bomber added in since he too has a base mode that can connect.

Emerje wrote:
Wait, so Magnus Prime is supposed to have blue yes?

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I guess mine didn't get painted, they're silver. Could be a good opportunity to paint them I suppose, I did want him to have red eyes after all.

Emerje

Nah you just got the nap time sleeping Prime edition!

But seriously that sucks though.

Thinking more about it, the large Autobot symbols that Magnus Prime has on his trailer remind me a bit of those worn on the vehicle mode sides of RiD 2001 Ultra Magnus, which Car Robots God Magnus did not have:

Overcracker wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

kurthy wrote:Hasbro superior, Takara inferior.

I would have to disagree, in that I feel that pretty much all of those changes seem mostly superficial, with the exception of the larger Autobot symbols on the trailer/legs looking more garish and gaudy compared to Super Ginrai's smaller ones that look more subtle and less in-your-face about themselves.

A agree. Ginrai still looks better to me.

Personally I like the look of Magnus Prime a little better, but I'm not all that attached to Ginrai's specific look anyway so I'm not bothered by the 'inaccuracies' on the Hb one. I particularly appreciate that extra little red detail that MP has on the back of the trailer: it seems tie the whole thing together just a little better, and stops it from looking quite so much like a red trailer-front smashed onto an otherwise gray trailer as the LG version does.

Of course the most notable selling point for me (aside from the fact that Magnus Prime is cheaper and I've already paid for him anyway ) is those larger Autobot symbols - if my robots in disguise are gonna have faction symbols on their vehicle modes, I kinda appreciate them at least being unashamed about it. Though on the other hand the Takara take on the head-robot (I hesitate to call him Ginrai as well for fear of further confusing the situation) is much better to me, admittedly. I don't know anymore!

All these bases connected... More like all the bots holding hands around a campfire chanting "kumbaya".

Sabrblade wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Deadput wrote:Hey Will you might be forgetting someone in that base collection ya got there eh?

He wasnt released under Titans return

At the very least, the instruction sheet does bear the subtitle-less "Generations" logo.

Plus, we was included in the titan master crunch cereal with the rest of Titans Return.

Does anyone with Overlord know if he us able to transform into the combined vehicle form that was possible with the G1 toy?

Crosscheck wrote:Does anyone with Overlord know if he us able to transform into the combined vehicle form that was possible with the G1 toy?

I don't have it yet, but there have been pictures of the combined mode on this site, so yes.

Got my Siege on Cybertron set in the mail last week. I finally opened it last night & I must say that I'm content with everything. Magnus Prime seemed to have good, tight joints, pretty much on par with my Super Ginrai (which I will probably sell at this point). My main reason for concern with this was seeing how the Liokaiser box set turned out last year. The joints on the limbs of the planes & tanks felt so loose, due to overuse of the molds, I'm sure. seemed to get it right this time. My only problem was getting Metalhawk's head to connect firmly at first, but after twisting the head backwards & forwards & playing with it for a bit, it went in just fine. If is able to continue to provide this level of quality, it may make the decision between purchasing their products & releases of the same characters a tougher choice. Glad I was able to get my hands on this set.

TF-fan kev777 wrote:

Crosscheck wrote:Does anyone with Overlord know if he us able to transform into the combined vehicle form that was possible with the G1 toy?

I don't have it yet, but there have been pictures of the combined mode on this site, so yes.

Yup. It's a little tricky since the arms get in the way and stop the thighs from bending outward a full 90 degrees, so the tank parts end up being angled slightly inward toward the back. Also due to the way the legs work now, flipping the tank-turret-bits out will result in large gaps on the outside of the legs, if that sort of thing is bothersome to you. But bottom line yes it does work, and it doesn't look really much worse than it did on the G1 toy - especially if you extend the flaps on the back of the jet component and slap the tank turret up top (on the port also at the back of the jet) - that really ties it together a little better IMO. I'm not in a position to easily take photos right now but I'll try and get some tomorrow; I also remember there was a picture or two of the config a while back in this thread, but darned if I know who posted it or when it was though.

TF-fan kev777 wrote:

Crosscheck wrote:Does anyone with Overlord know if he us able to transform into the combined vehicle form that was possible with the G1 toy?

I don't have it yet, but there have been pictures of the combined mode on this site, so yes.

The combined vehicle? Sweet!

Crosscheck wrote:Does anyone with Overlord know if he us able to transform into the combined vehicle form that was possible with the G1 toy?

Yup:

Relic0037 wrote:Got my Siege on Cybertron set in the mail last week. I finally opened it last night & I must say that I'm content with everything. Magnus Prime seemed to have good, tight joints, pretty much on par with my Super Ginrai (which I will probably sell at this point). My main reason for concern with this was seeing how the Liokaiser box set turned out last year. The joints on the limbs of the planes & tanks felt so loose, due to overuse of the molds, I'm sure. seemed to get it right this time.

While I am glad to hear your Magnus Prime is tight and great, I am very surprised that he doesnt suffer from the other problems mine and others' share. Mine for instance has a major problem where his leg panels easily become undone in robot mode. It becomes a chore to pose him, not helped at all by the feet and useless heelspurs. So let me know if he is hard to pose and stand and if his legs dont have that issue. It's really making me hate the mold.

Plus, I saw that debate about which is better and I truly feel the deco differences are far from the issue here. The one thats better is the one which can stand properly and pose well. I havent handled the Takara one, but I make no hyperbole when I say that the Hasbro Magnus Prime is the worse toy from the Titans Return line.

Rysquad wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Deadput wrote:Hey Will you might be forgetting someone in that base collection ya got there eh?

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He wasnt released under Titans return

...neither was God Bomber.

william-james88 wrote:This isn't the last of these articles though, there will be a follow up with Takara's exclusive God Bomber added in since he too has a base mode that can connect.

Wait a sec, the question was why I didnt find it nevesary to include skateboard prime in my pic of all TR base modes and I answered it. That doesnt mean he can't be in any future pics featuring other bases that can connect, like God Bomber.

But anyways, I can tell you now that I will never have a pic including skateboard Prime simply because I dont have easy and affordable access to him since I do not live in the US. If anyone wants to replicate what I did in the pics and include him, you are free to do so and we will news it

TF-fan kev777 wrote:Plus, we was included in the titan master crunch cereal with the rest of Titans Return.

I had not realized that, thats pretty cool. Too bad they didnt include Orion Pax' titan master. Then again, shredicus maximus is an sdcc exclusive, as is the trypticon cereal box so i get the cross promotion.

william-james88 wrote:

Crosscheck wrote:Does anyone with Overlord know if he us able to transform into the combined vehicle form that was possible with the G1 toy?

Yup:

That's not the configuration that was "possible with the G1 toy".

william-james88 wrote:

Relic0037 wrote:Got my Siege on Cybertron set in the mail last week. I finally opened it last night & I must say that I'm content with everything. Magnus Prime seemed to have good, tight joints, pretty much on par with my Super Ginrai (which I will probably sell at this point). My main reason for concern with this was seeing how the Liokaiser box set turned out last year. The joints on the limbs of the planes & tanks felt so loose, due to overuse of the molds, I'm sure. seemed to get it right this time.

While I am glad to hear your Magnus Prime is tight and great, I am very surprised that he doesnt suffer from the other problems mine and others' share. Mine for instance has a major problem where his leg panels easily become undone in robot mode. It becomes a chore to pose him, not helped at all by the feet and useless heelspurs. So let me know if he is hard to pose and stand and if his legs dont have that issue. It's really making me hate the mold.

Plus, I saw that debate about which is better and I truly feel the deco differences are far from the issue here. The one thats better is the one which can stand properly and pose well. I havent handled the Takara one, but I make no hyperbole when I say that the Hasbro Magnus Prime is the worse toy from the Titans Return line.

In my case, the Takara one is extremely loose and falls over a lot, whereas I'm very happy with the tightness on the Siege version because he can easily support the weight of the armor and be posed.

kurthy wrote:
In my case, the Takara one is extremely loose and falls over a lot, whereas I'm very happy with the tightness on the Siege version because he can easily support the weight of the armor and be posed.

So, just confirming, the trailer panels that wrap around his legs do not become undone when you play around with Magnus Prime?

Sabrblade wrote:That's not the configuration that was "possible with the G1 toy".

Care to show which one we are talking about then?

william-james88 wrote:

kurthy wrote:
In my case, the Takara one is extremely loose and falls over a lot, whereas I'm very happy with the tightness on the Siege version because he can easily support the weight of the armor and be posed.

So, just confirming, the trailer panels that wrap around his legs do not become undone when you play around with Magnus Prime?

I didn't say the trailer sides didn't come loose in bot mode. It just doesn't matter as much as the takara version because the joints are tighter. Neither Ginrai nor MP consistently keep the leg panels tabbed into the sides. For me, Ginrai is floppy as hell and MP is stable, it might be the opposite for others.

kurthy wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

kurthy wrote:
In my case, the Takara one is extremely loose and falls over a lot, whereas I'm very happy with the tightness on the Siege version because he can easily support the weight of the armor and be posed.

So, just confirming, the trailer panels that wrap around his legs do not become undone when you play around with Magnus Prime?

I didn't say the trailer sides didn't come loose in bot mode. It just doesn't matter as much as the takara version because the joints are tighter. Neither Ginrai nor MP consistently keep the leg panels tabbed into the sides. For me, Ginrai is floppy as hell and MP is stable, it might be the opposite for others.

I see. You come from a place where you already have Ginrai to compare while I do not. So different things pop out to us. Thanks for the explanation and that makes me sad about others who own Ginrai. I do agree that the untabbing is one of my only problems with him and the joints themselves are nice and tight on my MP. Plus, so few of these were made in comparison to other toys that we probably all have the same batch.

Cheers!

william-james88 wrote:

kurthy wrote:
In my case, the Takara one is extremely loose and falls over a lot, whereas I'm very happy with the tightness on the Siege version because he can easily support the weight of the armor and be posed.

So, just confirming, the trailer panels that wrap around his legs do not become undone when you play around with Magnus Prime?

Sabrblade wrote:That's not the configuration that was "possible with the G1 toy".

Care to show which one we are talking about then?