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Rated X wrote:Its the same red, blue, and grey plastics with a few minor paint apps (most notably the stupid blue crotch) So basically Magnus Prime is Ginrai with blue balls.

It should have been a Fire guts Ginrai repaint. Re-releasing nearly the same deco was a total fail. Everybody who wanted a Ginrai already bought one or preordered the set combined with godbomber. Especially the people in the US who were forced to buy online from the same site that sells the takara version. Other than a few cheap people, who protested Takara Ginrais price, nobody needs Magnus Prime. Countless Magnus Primes will probably show up on e-bay, and the rest will undergo full toy accurate conversions courtesy of Perfect Effect.

Can the cabs and trailers for CW Ultra Magnus and TR Magnus Prime be swapped and still have functional robot modes?

You mean attaching the CW Ultra Magnus cab onto the Prime trailer?

It should be possible yes. But why?

You want to give Magnus Prime's trailer a white cab?

Disregarding Godbomber - I'm more interested in the Magnus Prime/God Ginrai (heck even Powermaster Optimus Prime) cab with the Ultra Magnus trailer going back to me wanting Magnus Prime to be more Ultra Magnus than Optimus Prime.

Some random thoughts - but somethings I would do different with the Prime Wars Trilogy: Combiner Wars Ultra Magnus should have been Titans Return Ultra Magnus with Minimus Ambus as a Titan Master/Headmaster. This Titans Return Ultra Magnus should then be re-tooled to a Power of the Primes Powermaster Optimus Prime with Apex maybe as a Prime Master.

The only thing is the inside of the cabs are different. Ultra Magnus inside is more like a cockpit. The hinge that connects UMs head connection is different than the head master connection. The outer chassis is the same so if you left it in vehicle mode then its a go. Also if you wanted Magnus Prime to have UM's head then it is also a go. I had to check all three of mine since I have the PC-16 connected to God Ginrai I have a loose truck cab to inspect easily lol. But yes it can be done with ease...and you should take pics too lol.

Technically the Ginrai / PMOP cab also is a cockpit albeit a smaller one to hold a Titan Master which is smaller than Minimus Ambus which sits inside Magnus's cab. The hinge that hold the PMOP / Super Ginrai helmet doubles as a seat for the titan master in Truck mode.

The cabs are attached to the trailer exactly the same. Same screw connection. And should technically be about the same size, so should fit in the chest of one another's trailer armor / body.

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So you would end up with an Ultra Magnus body with an optimus prime head, and a PMOP body with a Magnus head.

with the Magnus Prime/Ultra Magnus cab-trailer swap, paint the Magnus Prime cab white, get the Ultra Magnus Titan Master from the Arcee set, and get someone to do an Ultra Magnus helmet replacement on Shapeways and I've got my Titans Return Ultra Magnus.

Wish I had the time...

william-james88 wrote:It has been a slow build with Seibertron showing all the bases connecting together

I thought you weren't going to get Trypticon until sometime next year...

Anyway...cool pics, in addition to God Bombr, I noticed Quickswitch is missing form that pic. Once I get MP and God Bomber tomorrow, all I need is Overlord and Trypticon to complete my city, if I ever get to see them in a store that is...

I know BBTS has Trypticon in stock (HTS and TRU do not), but the advantage of getting Trypticon at TRU in store is I can put him on layaway. its hard to drop $150 all at once on a single item...

Also about the Generaitons line, yes I agree after lengthy discussions we had previously it is niche, which is sad...but I'm not sure Hasbro has kids in mind solely. Sure kids are buying these no doubt. But when you have certain characters that no kid would know or care about unless their parents told them, I find it hard to believe that the development team (many of which were fans as kids themselves) would have ONLY kids in mind for Generations. Currently most Wal-Mart & Targets in my area have almost no Generations toys in stock, (I'm actually impressed at how well Broadside has sold, many stores in my area had 4-6 on the shelf at one time, unheard of for any single voyager...and yet somehow, they are all gone...) mostly Movie toys, followed by RiD15. TRU seems to be the only chain keeping a healthy stock of Generations. Also most TRU have the Transformers section split currently. They have an up front display (basically any toyline promoting a summer film), and their regular location in the store...

Speaking of which, I am no fan of the movie line to be sure...but what in the world would posses Hasbro to make an $80 Sqweeks toy? BB8 he is not...biggest waste of money I've ever seen, I expect to see those clearance out at $15-$20 around holiday time.

Query, Does Trypticon have secret features not mentioned in the instructions like Metroplex?

Example of such, The robot mode knee platforms

Kurona wrote:So in combined mode, does this make him God Magnus?

I've been making that joke for a month and a half! It's copy-righted!!

william-james88 wrote:You win comment of the day!

No respect for the copyright I tell ya

Now, onto the Siege set! My thoughts, in order of best to worst.

1) Tidal Wave. This guy is amazing (Sorry Hellscream and Kurona). the paint work is awesome and the bulky feel of the mold works so well for the character. He may not be tall, but his is heavy duty. and the head is gorgeous. All the work put into this guy is fantastic, and he beats up Broadside handily.

2) Thunderwing. Same as Tidal Wave really, the paint work is fantastic, and the die cast makes me grin so much. and he works perfectly with Nitro Zeus as hoped. That is where he is staying.

3) Metalhawk. Paintwork is the same as the first 2, and they all look good with Alpha Trion, considering the Botcon level of attention to detail to them. The mold is great, the paint is great, and the head is awesome.

4) Magnus Prime. Good mold, like all the retooling from CW Magnus. The thing that makes him stand apart - literally - is Godbomber though, so he only takes a higher spot when combined. But he is awesome. And huge in combined mode.

5) Pounce. This guys sucks. The paint is good, but the mold itself is just awful. The animal mode is junk, and the robot mode is sort of better, but the beast mode just sucks.

o.supreme wrote:

william-james88 wrote:It has been a slow build with Seibertron showing all the bases connecting together

I thought you weren't going to get Trypticon until sometime next year...

Anyway...cool pics, in addition to God Bombr, I noticed Quickswitch is missing form that pic. Once I get MP and God Bomber tomorrow, all I need is Overlord and Trypticon to complete my city, if I ever get to see them in a store that is...

I know BBTS has Trypticon in stock (HTS and TRU do not), but the advantage of getting Trypticon at TRU in store is I can put him on layaway. its hard to drop $150 all at once on a single item...

Also about the Generaitons line, yes I agree after lengthy discussions we had previously it is niche, which is sad...but I'm not sure Hasbro has kids in mind solely. Sure kids are buying these no doubt. But when you have certain characters that no kid would know or care about unless their parents told them, I find it hard to believe that the development team (many of which were fans as kids themselves) would have ONLY kids in mind for Generations. Currently most Wal-Mart & Targets in my area have almost no Generations toys in stock, (I'm actually impressed at how well Broadside has sold, many stores in my area had 4-6 on the shelf at one time, unheard of for any single voyager...and yet somehow, they are all gone...) mostly Movie toys, followed by RiD15. TRU seems to be the only chain keeping a healthy stock of Generations. Also most TRU have the Transformers section split currently. They have an up front display (basically any toyline promoting a summer film), and their regular location in the store...

Speaking of which, I am no fan of the movie line to be sure...but what in the world would posses Hasbro to make an $80 Sqweeks toy? BB8 he is not...biggest waste of money I've ever seen, I expect to see those clearance out at $15-$20 around holiday time.

All good points. I will adress in point form, if you dont mind:

- There was an ok deal on Trypticon and he ended up being only about 10$ more than I planned on spending on him (I had told myself I wouldnt budge until he was 120 USD, but he was currently possible at 132 USD so I said it was worth it and the knees had supposedly been fixed).

- Quickswtich is defnitely there



I totally get the point that generations is made with collectors in mind (as well as kids) and moreso than the RID line of course. And I was talking about that, but what I meant to say was that if it is meant for collectors, then where are the collectors? If there was enough demand, then those who complain about seeing the same TR figures months on end would not see them, they would be sold out. I was just realizing that maybe there simply isnt enough demand for generations figures and we arent as big in numbers as we may think we are. Basically, the demand for wave 3 TR deluxes has been met while the demand for RID warriors is still not met. And that fascinated me.

As for the 80$ sqweeks, I dont get it either. BB8 was even cheaper, I didnt mind spending 60$ on him, its one of the only things I ever bought that my wife approved 100%

kurthy wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Relic0037 wrote:Got my Siege on Cybertron set in the mail last week. I finally opened it last night & I must say that I'm content with everything. Magnus Prime seemed to have good, tight joints, pretty much on par with my Super Ginrai (which I will probably sell at this point). My main reason for concern with this was seeing how the Liokaiser box set turned out last year. The joints on the limbs of the planes & tanks felt so loose, due to overuse of the molds, I'm sure. seemed to get it right this time.

While I am glad to hear your Magnus Prime is tight and great, I am very surprised that he doesnt suffer from the other problems mine and others' share. Mine for instance has a major problem where his leg panels easily become undone in robot mode. It becomes a chore to pose him, not helped at all by the feet and useless heelspurs. So let me know if he is hard to pose and stand and if his legs dont have that issue. It's really making me hate the mold.

Plus, I saw that debate about which is better and I truly feel the deco differences are far from the issue here. The one thats better is the one which can stand properly and pose well. I havent handled the Takara one, but I make no hyperbole when I say that the Hasbro Magnus Prime is the worse toy from the Titans Return line.

In my case, the Takara one is extremely loose and falls over a lot, whereas I'm very happy with the tightness on the Siege version because he can easily support the weight of the armor and be posed.

Both molds seemed tricky to pose IMO, unless you go for something extremely basic. Seems like designed the legs to make you want to get God Bomber to make him more sturdy, but not much more poseable. I mainly like the mold for being closer to G1 Super Ginrai.

william-james88 wrote:- Quickswtich is defnitely there

Cool Thanks. I did not see that reverse angle shot. I'm totally jealous you get to complete your city before I do .

I have the schematic even planned out on paper heh.....Although this does make me wish Hasbro had gone forward with the other two Box Sets. God Bomber could have been the leader in one, and perhaps a New Decepticon mold in the other....

As you know for me its all about symmetry, and now God Bomber (oddly enough) will throw that off with 5 Autobot Base Modes to only 4 Decepticon ones...

But I'm sure with enough finagling and repositioning we can make it work.

o.supreme wrote:But I'm sure with enough finagling and repositioning we can make it work.

I am sure it will. Its normal that he throws it off though, he isnt part of the mainline and thus not part of the symetry. I am currently thinking of another way to do these bases since a circle is not really thinking outside the box and it makes for a lot of unused space. Plus, Trypticon has connectors specifically for connecting in Dino Mode so I will see how I can make use of them.

And thanks for the compliments!

Here's a picture I posted a while back showing TR Overlord in combined super-jet mode, courtesy of the Transformers Subreddit.

william-james88 wrote: But anyways, I can tell you now that I will never have a pic including skateboard Prime simply because I dont have easy and affordable access to him since I do not live in the US. If anyone wants to replicate what I did in the pics and include him, you are free to do so and we will news it

I'm only missing Skyshadow, Overlord and Trypticon and I have seen the latter two at walmarts and such but I don't have the funds to get them at the moment, I also don't have Magnus Prime in my house yet but I have paid for him and am waiting for the right time to ship the box set here.

Once I have them all I'll be sure to do an updated base set photo.

I bought the SDCC Prime here at Ages Three and up on their Canadian site with Black Convoy they were both late arrivals though to the store which I think is a good thing since it gives me time to gather funds.

https://www.agesthreeandup.ca/collections/hasbro-japanese-transformers-pre-orders/products/transformers-generations-titans-return-primitive-optimus-prime-sdcc-2017-exclusive?variant=48356098822

https://www.agesthreeandup.ca/products/takara-transformers-legends-lg-ex-black-convoy-tokyo-toy-show-2017-exclusive?variant=48554565574

Relic0037 wrote:Both molds seemed tricky to pose IMO, unless you go for something extremely basic. Seems like designed the legs to make you want to get God Bomber to make him more sturdy, but not much more poseable. I mainly like the mold for being closer to G1 Super Ginrai.

Extremely basic


I was bored at work today.

On G2 brawl

william-james88 wrote: But anyways, I can tell you now that I will never have a pic including skateboard Prime simply because I dont have easy and affordable access to him since I do not live in the US. If anyone wants to replicate what I did in the pics and include him, you are free to do so and we will news it

Siege set came today *happy dance* I'm only waiting on Overlord now, so I can whenever he finally hits retail in the US.

TF-fan kev777 wrote:

william-james88 wrote: But anyways, I can tell you now that I will never have a pic including skateboard Prime simply because I dont have easy and affordable access to him since I do not live in the US. If anyone wants to replicate what I did in the pics and include him, you are free to do so and we will news it

Siege set came today *happy dance* I'm only waiting on Overlord now, so I can whenever he finally hits retail in the US.

Oh Crud...it never even occurred to me that Primitive Optimus Prime would have that sort of connectivity....I don't know why...Still, I think this is one rare case where my desire to "have them all" can be repressed/justified. Its the exact same thing as PM Prime. Sure it has some different accessories, but the characters is basically the same. I can justify Super Ginrai/MP as being different from PMOP, but Primitive... nah...I can let that go...

Try avoiding it when you have PMOP, Ginrai, Primitive, and Magnus Prime, then Takara comes out with the boxed set...

^But wouldn't Super Ginrai (sold individually) be exactly the same as the one in the God Ginrai Box Set?

Chrome paint apps, plus the COMPLETE set of the mold!

kurthy wrote:Chrome paint apps, plus the COMPLETE set of the mold!

Plus, Minerva and Cab titanmasters!

Yeah..well, if you are a fan of that mold specifically...more power to you. I was just trying to make a TR city with all available different characters. God Bomber to me was the only significantly different one that Hasbro did not release, and I still get to make God Ginrai .

o.supreme wrote:Oh Crud...it never even occurred to me that Primitive Optimus Prime would have that sort of connectivity....I don't know why...Still, I think this is one rare case where my desire to "have them all" can be repressed/justified. Its the exact same thing as PM Prime. Sure it has some different accessories, but the characters is basically the same. I can justify Super Ginrai/MP as being different from PMOP, but Primitive... nah...I can let that go...

For me I'm using Primitive Prime as a separate character called Shreddicus Maximus which is the name of the Titanmaster and in my collection he is a leader of a subdivision called the "Powermasters" which are a group of Titanmasters who use Powermaster exo armor that is modeled after Optimus.

So basically this is who is who in my collection,

Voyager TR Optimus Prime: Optimus Prime himself
Voyager TR box set Laser Prime: Is a separate character called Laser Prime who is a massive Optimus fan boy who remolded himself after Optimus (Like IDW Pyro) but misinterprets Optimus's code of justice and is a murderous Autobot so basically he is an exaggerated version of live action movie Optimus.

Powermaster Prime: They are exo suits modeled after Prime but are piloted by Titanmasters, the powermaster helmet is like a knight's helmet too.
SDCC exclusive skateboard Prime: He is the leader of the Powermaster Autobot subfaction named Shreddicus Maximus who is the only one with a distinct suit of armor.
Magnus Prime/Takara Ginrai: Not sure with this, he is either going to be Optimus himself in an upgrade or he is going to be the Powermaster's ultimate exo suit piloted by their most skilled member who has the name Ginrai but is called Magnus Prime in suit mode.

That solves any "duplicate figures of the same character" problem on my end, just putting an idea out in case it helps.

Deadput wrote:For me I'm using Primitive Prime as a separate character called Shreddicus Maximus which is the name of the Titanmaster and in my collection he is a leader of a subdivision called the "Powermasters" which are a group of Titanmasters who use Powermaster exo armor that is modeled after Optimus.

So basically this is who is who in my collection,

Voyager TR Optimus Prime: Optimus Prime himself
Voyager TR box set Laser Prime: Is a separate character called Laser Prime who is a massive Optimus fan boy who remolded himself after Optimus (Like IDW Pyro) but misinterprets Optimus's code of justice and is a murderous Autobot so basically he is an exaggerated version of live action movie Optimus.

Powermaster Prime: They are exo suits modeled after Prime but are piloted by Titanmasters, the powermaster helmet is like a knight's helmet too.
SDCC exclusive skateboard Prime: He is the leader of the Powermaster Autobot subfaction named Shreddicus Maximus who is the only one with a distinct suit of armor.
Magnus Prime/Takara Ginrai: Not sure with this, he is either going to be Optimus himself in an upgrade or he is going to be the Powermaster's ultimate exo suit piloted by their most skilled member who has the name Ginrai but is called Magnus Prime in suit mode.

That solves any "duplicate figures of the same character" problem on my end, just putting an idea out in case it helps.

I'm using a similar headcannon where PMOP, Skater Prime and Magnus Prime are all headmasters with bodies modeled after Optimus prime. In my case, CW red Prime is my Optimus Prime with my Laser Prime as a separate character with a similar fanboy story. I actually going to turn Skater Prime into a Decepticon with some extra toyhax labels and make him Power Master Nemesis Prime because, well, need more cons. That also helps balance out the cities.

Tigertrack wrote:

kurthy wrote:Chrome paint apps, plus the COMPLETE set of the mold!

Plus, Minerva and Cab titanmasters!

Actually, I would need to pick up Legends Ultra Magnus and the boxed set Movie Ultra Magnus to have all the versions of the mold, so I can resist.

TF-fan kev777 wrote:I'm using a similar headcannon where PMOP, Skater Prime and Magnus Prime are all headmasters with bodies modeled after Optimus prime. In my case, CW red Prime is my Optimus Prime with my Laser Prime as a separate character with a similar fanboy story. I actually going to turn Skater Prime into a Decepticon with some extra toyhax labels and make him Power Master Nemesis Prime because, well, need more cons. That also helps balance out the cities.

Nemesis Prime was also an idea I considered but in the end I got Black Convoy who fills my needs and in my collection is basically named "Nemesis Prime the Grand Scourge, of the Darkside Black Convoy" also known as NPGSDBC or shorter nicknames such as Nemesis Prime, Scourge, Convoy or DAD which stands for Death-bringing, Apocalyptic, Destroyer.

Forgot to mention my Laser Prime who used to be named Lazer prior to meeting Optimus has an ability which is benefiting to his name, he can make laser replicas of any weapons he knows about which is a powerful ability but also a weakness since it requires knowledge on how that specific weapon functions and the inside mechanics so if he has no idea on how a fusion cannon works he can't make it work, the weapon only manifests in his hands so he can't give weapons or ammo to others and it disappears if he is disarmed, it is pretty energy consuming and considering the crazy things this guy does his weapon could vanish or he blacks out at crucial moments.


Oh and I just remembered about Transformers: Tribute Orion Pax...he is probably going to stay as him or he will become Crosshairs when combined with a Clobber Titan master.

I'm just gonna use Primitive Optimus Prime as Super Convoy.

Omegatron. wrote:Here's a picture I posted a while back showing TR Overlord in combined super-jet mode, courtesy of the Transformers Subreddit.

Awesome. Thanks! It actually looks pretty good. I can't wait to try it out when BBTS gets him to me.