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steals_your_goats wrote:Just so we can see exactly how much has been retooled between Blurr and brainstorm

Hey! That's a big difference. That's the kind of retooling I can tolerate appreciate.

edit: Also there was some talk earlier about his gun parts forming and somthin-er-other. I'd bet his gun has a seat in it for the TR to sit in.

Prowl4 wrote:Didn't buy the likes of that micromaster rodimus. Leader megatron is heavily influenced between g1 and idw so that only strengthens my argument.

Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Megatron Gallery

As I said this line is based off of g1 and idw. Not sure if you read the comics or not but they're pretty g1 in the comic designs.

Ultra Markus wrote:key words Heavy retool! if that's how they play the game then i guess i'm in

Its not that heavy a retool. The legs are the same and so is the back of the vehicle. The arms and front have changed though. More of a Cannon Bumblebee than a Battle Grimlock.

Lunatic Prime wrote:

Stuartmaximus wrote:

Matrix_Holder wrote:I've had over clocking In my hand and I've seen the full pic of Titan returns blurr in hand and I tell you With 100% fact that they are not even remotely the same mold. Over clocking is also a voyager/ mp scale while tr blurr is a deluxe. They're completely different molds.

not Blur! it's TR Brainstorm

anyway...i've not to discuss that anymore!(site managers rules)

You complained the whole time that TR Blurr is a rip off of SXS Overclocking and now you say you actually meant TR Brainstorm? Where's the nuclear facepalm-smiley?

& where in your response to me did you fail to grasp the part where i said that I'M NOT ALLOWED TO TALK ABOUT IT ANYMORE!!!

now END OF STORY


& MOVE ON!

Stuartmaximus wrote:

Lunatic Prime wrote:

Stuartmaximus wrote:

Matrix_Holder wrote:I've had over clocking In my hand and I've seen the full pic of Titan returns blurr in hand and I tell you With 100% fact that they are not even remotely the same mold. Over clocking is also a voyager/ mp scale while tr blurr is a deluxe. They're completely different molds.

not Blur! it's TR Brainstorm

anyway...i've not to discuss that anymore!(site managers rules)

You complained the whole time that TR Blurr is a rip off of SXS Overclocking and now you say you actually meant TR Brainstorm? Where's the nuclear facepalm-smiley?

& where in your response to me did you fail to grasp the part where i said that I'M NOT ALLOWED TO TALK ABOUT IT ANYMORE!!!

now END OF STORY


& MOVE ON!

Alrighty folks, like the man said, lets move on. Stewie and I will sort this out in private.

Alpha Weltall wrote:

SillySpringer wrote:

Alpha Weltall wrote:We also need WAY more aquatic based Transformers.

Seacons??? HMMM???

If only.

They even have their own repaints into different characters and then another set of repaints that isn't just G2. I'd love an army of Seacons in any one of their three color schemes. I've already went on about how easy it would be to get EVERY beast combiner out of only a few base molds and retools. There's no excuse why we haven't gotten any yet.

Again like I said elsewhere, Computron needs an Abominus to battle.

Stuartmaximus wrote:

SillySpringer wrote:it is quite possible that Gen Brainstorm's headmaster is compatible with the TR headmaster.

that is a fantastic idea! & one i could easily get behind, if it weren't for two possible things

1)i think the size of the TR Headmasters maybe bigger?

&

2)we don't yet know the mechanics used to connect the Headmasters to their vehicle bodies & if they even operate in the same way that the Generations Brainstorm does

but all in all a great idea



i'm impressed

The Titan masters are most likely either the same size or smaller than Gen Brainstorm's headmaster, since the heads on the deluxes for TR are the same size as the voyagers and leaders. The reason the look bigger on the bigger guys is because they have helmets that cover them.

william-james88 wrote:

Ultra Markus wrote:key words Heavy retool! if that's how they play the game then i guess i'm in

Its not that heavy a retool. The legs are the same and so is the back of the vehicle. The arms and front have changed though. More of a Cannon Bumblebee than a Battle Grimlock.

its a heavy enough rettool. i would have made the comparison between g1 bumblebee and g1 cliffjumper both have same engineering but completely different vehicles

william-james88 wrote:

Ultra Markus wrote:key words Heavy retool! if that's how they play the game then i guess i'm in

Its not that heavy a retool. The legs are the same and so is the back of the vehicle. The arms and front have changed though. More of a Cannon Bumblebee than a Battle Grimlock.

I can definitely see differences in the back of the vehicle and his legs. They look similar but not the same.

Just so I know, what time can we expect news to start coming from the toyfair?

Lunatic Prime wrote:

Emerje wrote:Even if the heads were compatible wouldn't Voyager Brainstorm's head be too big for the Deluxe? Pretty sure the Titan Masters are smaller which is why the larger figures require helmets.

I think all heads/Titanmasters are the same size and this is the reason why the Leader class figures need helmets. Because otherwise the heads would look too small on them. And the difference between a Deluxe and a Voyager head does not have to be that big.

Yes, I know how Titan Masters work. I was talking about how Voyager Brainstorm's head would be too big for Deluxe Brainstorm's body even if they used the same connecting method.

Cobotron wrote:

steals_your_goats wrote:Just so we can see exactly how much has been retooled between Blurr and brainstorm

Hey! That's a big difference. That's the kind of retooling I can tolerate appreciate.

edit: Also there was some talk earlier about his gun parts forming and somthin-er-other. I'd bet his gun has a seat in it for the TR to sit in.

There might be a seat on the bottom I suppose, though the front guns are permanently attached to the nose so there isn't much need for combining gun parts. He comes with Blurr's gun, it's in the cropped leak image and you can see it under his alt mode attached to the front.

Lunatic Prime wrote:But something's still not clear to me. When Apex/Hi-Q is now OP's Headmaster, who is Optimus then actually in that story/universe? I don't think that he will appear in that form in the comics because it's the same like with CW Cyclonus: How can Cyclonus and Galvatronus be the same character? Yes, Takara answered that with their UW version, but I think it's just a pretext to make a new version/toy of him. I have nothing against that but I can't really imagine a background story for him that fits to G1 or IDW until it's not something like the story about IDW Ultra Magnus and Minimus Ambus.

Marvel comic #80.

In the final issue Hi-Q is reborn as Optimus Prime by the Last Autobot. Of course it doesn't really matter since Titans Return will be doing something different and in Prime's case they're just swapping one required-for-bot-mode mini figure for another.

Sabrblade wrote:

Lunatic Prime wrote:Who is Ginai?

He meant Ginrai.

Lunatic Prime wrote:And is Orion Pax not obvious enough as Megatron (Nucleon) being Galvatron's Headmaster?

Considering that the figure is based on Powermaster Optimus Prime, in a line where all the little partner figures of the 1987 Headmaster characters are meant to be the very same little partners of those 1987 Headmasters, who else would Powermaster Optimus Prime's little partner be than Hi-Q (even if that name isn't being used) himself?

I'm still holding out hope that Apex turns into an Orion Pax head that's concealed by the Optimus Prime helmet. We still haven't seen Apex's alt mode and it makes a whole lot more sense than Twin Cast turning into Perceptor's head.

Emerje

Emerje wrote:I'm still holding out hope that Apex turns into an Orion Pax head that's concealed by the Optimus Prime helmet. We still haven't seen Apex's alt mode and it makes a whole lot more sense than Twin Cast turning into Perceptor's head.

Emerje

You mean Blaster's head?!

ZeroWolf wrote:Just so I know, what time can we expect news to start coming from the toyfair?

Toy Fair officially starts Saturday, but it sounds like we can expect a preview by Friday, at least of Fort Max. They're also doing an investors presentation from Toy Fair on Friday, those sometimes have some interesting things hidden in them.

Emerje

Emerje wrote:

Lunatic Prime wrote:

Emerje wrote:Even if the heads were compatible wouldn't Voyager Brainstorm's head be too big for the Deluxe? Pretty sure the Titan Masters are smaller which is why the larger figures require helmets.

I think all heads/Titanmasters are the same size and this is the reason why the Leader class figures need helmets. Because otherwise the heads would look too small on them. And the difference between a Deluxe and a Voyager head does not have to be that big.

Yes, I know how Titan Masters work. I was talking about how Voyager Brainstorm's head would be too big for Deluxe Brainstorm's body even if they used the same connecting method.

On a related note, have we seen any photos of the way Sentinel Prime's helmet/headmaster works (in the same way we've seen Galvatron)? I'm assuming all Voyager class headmasters in the TR line will require extra, uh... helmets.

Lunatic Prime wrote:

Emerje wrote:I'm still holding out hope that Apex turns into an Orion Pax head that's concealed by the Optimus Prime helmet. We still haven't seen Apex's alt mode and it makes a whole lot more sense than Twin Cast turning into Perceptor's head.

Emerje

You mean Blaster's head?!

No, that would make sense, but he doesn't. He turns into Perceptor's head which then goes inside the Blaster helmet.



The rep said there would be a lot of Easter eggs in this line and that's one of them.

Emerje

Emerje wrote:

Lunatic Prime wrote:

Emerje wrote:I'm still holding out hope that Apex turns into an Orion Pax head that's concealed by the Optimus Prime helmet. We still haven't seen Apex's alt mode and it makes a whole lot more sense than Twin Cast turning into Perceptor's head.

Emerje

You mean Blaster's head?!

No, that would make sense, but he doesn't. He turns into Perceptor's head which then goes inside the Blaster helmet.

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The rep said there would be a lot of Easter eggs in this line and that's one of them.

Emerje

So the Titanmasters have two names/personalities even without a body?

Lunatic Prime wrote:

Emerje wrote:

Lunatic Prime wrote:

Emerje wrote:I'm still holding out hope that Apex turns into an Orion Pax head that's concealed by the Optimus Prime helmet. We still haven't seen Apex's alt mode and it makes a whole lot more sense than Twin Cast turning into Perceptor's head.

Emerje

You mean Blaster's head?!

No, that would make sense, but he doesn't. He turns into Perceptor's head which then goes inside the Blaster helmet.

Capture.JPG

The rep said there would be a lot of Easter eggs in this line and that's one of them.

Emerje

So the Titanmasters have two names/personalities even without a body?

I think the fact they look like someone else is just a homage and not to be taken literally but it is a missed opportunity to work out a way of doing homages to the character from different continuities.

Thanks emerje for the info

I still want a bit more clarity about why these are titanmasters but that's only likely to come when we get bios. Till then I'll just pretend the bodies are lifeless hunks of metal till the Lil guy pilots them.

ZeroWolf wrote:

Lunatic Prime wrote:

Emerje wrote:

Lunatic Prime wrote:

Emerje wrote:I'm still holding out hope that Apex turns into an Orion Pax head that's concealed by the Optimus Prime helmet. We still haven't seen Apex's alt mode and it makes a whole lot more sense than Twin Cast turning into Perceptor's head.

Emerje

You mean Blaster's head?!

No, that would make sense, but he doesn't. He turns into Perceptor's head which then goes inside the Blaster helmet.

Capture.JPG

The rep said there would be a lot of Easter eggs in this line and that's one of them.

Emerje

So the Titanmasters have two names/personalities even without a body?

I think the fact they look like someone else is just a homage and not to be taken literally but it is a missed opportunity to work out a way of doing homages to the character from different continuities.

Thanks emerje for the info

I still want a bit more clarity about why these are titanmasters but that's only likely to come when we get bios. Till then I'll just pretend the bodies are lifeless hunks of metal till the Lil guy pilots them.

Uh, so when Twincast pilots a Deluxe or Voyager body it looks like he's Perceptor.

Emerje wrote:
No, that would make sense, but he doesn't. He turns into Perceptor's head which then goes inside the Blaster helmet.

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The rep said there would be a lot of Easter eggs in this line and that's one of them.

Emerje

So if that's really blasters head then I wonder who's head they used in the prototype images

steals_your_goats wrote:

Emerje wrote:
No, that would make sense, but he doesn't. He turns into Perceptor's head which then goes inside the Blaster helmet.

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The rep said there would be a lot of Easter eggs in this line and that's one of them.

Emerje

So if that's really blasters head then I wonder who's head they used in the prototype images

pity there isn't a transformers head search database on here!

Stuartmaximus wrote:

steals_your_goats wrote:

Emerje wrote:
No, that would make sense, but he doesn't. He turns into Perceptor's head which then goes inside the Blaster helmet.

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The rep said there would be a lot of Easter eggs in this line and that's one of them.

Emerje

So if that's really blasters head then I wonder who's head they used in the prototype images

pity there isn't a transformers head search database on here!

Face recognition systems for Transformers. That's the new sh!t.

Edit: Wtf is SNOOFENGLOOP? I wrote something else.

Sabrblade wrote:

Lunatic Prime wrote:Face recognition systems for Transformers. That's the new SNOOFENGLOOP.

Edit: Wtf is SNOOFENGLOOP? I wrote something else.

A censoring word filter, methinks.

I already assumed that by myself, but what does it mean?

rickdraco wrote:
I'm also a Brit, but unfortunately I do not even have a Toys R Us that is even viable to get to. all my recent generations purchases have either had to be from Ebay or B&M Bargains I was able to get Roadbuster and Rhinox.

B&M in Cambridge have had Springer, Sandstorm, Rhinox, Sky-Byte, Whirl, Brainstorm, Blitzwing and (lots of) Roadbuster all for £12.99 each and even Leader Jetfire for £29.99 (rather than usual £49.99) over the past year. I should probably check to see what they got as haven't been to Cambridge for a while and all they had last time I went was left over Roadbusters. Always Roadbusters...

william-james88 wrote:Like making G1 Megatron into a tank instead of a gun, that's an INSANELY HUGE change.

But one that made perfect sense and was one of my fave things about G2. Finally Megs could turn into a big gun that can transport itself around and look threatening and not need his bits fondled by Starscream everytime he wanted to shoot. I think I have that large G2 toy somewhere in a box actually. The tab for the spring loaded head is broken but other than that he's in good condition with working electronics from what I remember. I'll have to go dig him out. I still want a Leader CW Megs if I can find one cheap enough.

Lunatic Prime wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Lunatic Prime wrote:Face recognition systems for Transformers. That's the new SNOOFENGLOOP.

Edit: Wtf is SNOOFENGLOOP? I wrote something else.

A censoring word filter, methinks.

I already assumed that by myself, but what does it mean?

SNOOFENGLOOP is a threat worse than Unicron so shush or he'll hear you and destroy us all.



Still undecided on this Blurrstorm. Will have to wait til the robot mode is fully revealed. The vehicle mode just looks too much like a hybrid of the two characters rather than a full Brainstorm.

william-james88 wrote:While Instagram might be a place filled with pictures of meals and duckface selfies, it will now finally have some awesome stuff in terms of official Transformers Images from Hasbro. Fellow Seibertronian AZT found this interesting announcement on the official Transformers Facebook page:

It’s high time the Transformers team gets on Instagram. So Bumblebee is packing up the crew and snapping pics in New York to kick it off. @TransformersOfficial goes live this week with a big announcement and an up-close look at a certain Titan scale figure.

So keep a lookout for when the official Transformers Instagram account goes live since it seems this is how they will reveal toy images of Titan Fortress Maximus, who is without a doubt the "titan scale figure" they are referring to.

We'll need a thread on here to re-post everything they put up there for those of us who wish to avoid the land of ugly duckface selfies an meal pictures.