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Bradimus wrote:

Kurona wrote:

Kurona wrote:It's also very much worth noting that Fall of Cybertron, Thrilling 30, Combiner Wars and (what's confirmed for) Titans Return have never had more than 2 voyagers per wave. Since Optimus and Megatron make up Wave 3, and it's obvious to all of us that Blitzwing and Octane are eventually coming; if this Broadside leak is true then it's very existence confirms that Titans Return has 5 waves at the very least.

Looking back, Universe 2.0 and Classics also never released more than 2 Voyagers per wave. Hhhhhhuh. Interesting trend.

On this note, by the way, so far in Titans Return the Voyagers have followed a pattern of one Decepticon and one Autobot per wave - Sentinel/Galvatron, Astrotrain/Alpha Trion, Optimus/Megatron. If this trend continues it's very possible that Broadside would be put alongside either Blitzwing or Octane in Wave 4 rather than the latter two both being in the same wave. We could also then surmise, from rumours, that Wave 5 would be Vector Prime with either Octane or Blitzwing and Wave 6 would be Tidal Wave. There, boom. Entire Titans Return Voyager waves worked out barring some sort of surprise like CW Sky Lynx.

Wave 1: Galvatron opposite Sentinal Prime

Wave 2: Astrotrain opposite Alpha Trion

Wave 3: Megatron opposite Optimus Prime

Speculation:

Wave 4: Blitzwing or Octane opposite Broadside or Vector Prime

Wave 5: other Wave 4 Decepticon opposite other Wave 4 Autobot

Wave 6: Tidal Wave opposite unknown Autobot (Leo Prime?)

Opposite of Metroplex.....Trypticon....and we're getting one

Opposite of Fort Max....Scorponok....and we're getting one of those too

Love the Galvy reuse as Straxus btw

Speaking of retools/reuses ect....seeing as we're getting Megs then Blitzwing...maybe they could reuse that mold for Doubledealer
yeah yeah....i know there's not to be too many retools reuses ect in this line + we've recently had the thrilling 30 Doubledealer, so i guess a new one is unlikely

The only other reuse of the Broadside/Tidal Wave mold that i can think of...would be as Flattop(yeah yeah...i know it was a Micromaster vehicle!) or maybe for Starscream to use(if we're getting a Starscream?) as his Orbital Assault Carrier(like the DOTM CBV figure).

Broadside's gonna be so awesome!

It looks like he's retooled from both the Alpha Trion mold and the Astrotrain mold

Don't let repaint wars fool you; Hasbro doesn't need to find a re-use for literally every figure they put out. They didn't re-use Rhinox, didn't re-use Whirl, didn't re-use Roadbuster, didn't re-use Sky-byte. Galvatron's very specific to... well, Galvatron, and I highly doubt they'd retool him into anyone else. Unless it's an extremely major one - which at that point may as well just be shared engineering - it won't look good as anyone else. I can very easily see them not re-using Galvatron.

Not sure if anyone posted this yet. I figured out Galvatron's hand laser mode:

Kurona wrote:Don't let repaint wars fool you; Hasbro doesn't need to find a re-use for literally every figure they put out. They didn't re-use Rhinox, didn't re-use Whirl, didn't re-use Roadbuster, didn't re-use Sky-byte. Galvatron's very specific to... well, Galvatron, and I highly doubt they'd retool him into anyone else. Unless it's an extremely major one - which at that point may as well just be shared engineering - it won't look good as anyone else. I can very easily see them not re-using Galvatron.

Erm....they did reuse Sky-Byte

As Gelshark(granted it was just a repaint)

same with Whirl! coz Legends Whirl is just a redeco(repaint) of Generations Whirl

Stuartmaximus wrote:

Kurona wrote:Don't let repaint wars fool you; Hasbro doesn't need to find a re-use for literally every figure they put out. They didn't re-use Rhinox, didn't re-use Whirl, didn't re-use Roadbuster, didn't re-use Sky-byte. Galvatron's very specific to... well, Galvatron, and I highly doubt they'd retool him into anyone else. Unless it's an extremely major one - which at that point may as well just be shared engineering - it won't look good as anyone else. I can very easily see them not re-using Galvatron.

Erm....they did reuse Sky-Byte

As Gelshark(granted it was just a repaint)

same with Whirl! coz Legends Whirl is just a redeco(repaint) of Generations Whirl

Specifically referring to Hasbro. What Takara does is completely separate.

Bradimus wrote:Not sure if anyone posted this yet. I figured out Galvatron's hand laser mode:

Neat attempt of the laser. I haven't even begun to transform my Galvatron since I got him a few weeks ago and made the slight modifications to the cannon and mask. I just don't really care for the other modes and he's not really a Transformer who even used other modes very much at all. I doubt I'd care if the toy couldn't transform at all.

Broadside I don't really have any feeling for. Always seemed to be a bit of a badly designed concept to begin with and as a triple changer autobot never seemed even as a cool as Sandstorm, never mind Springer. But hey the toy could be surprising and fun. I dunno. Not one on my radar though.

Bradimus wrote:Not sure if anyone posted this yet. I figured out Galvatron's hand laser mode.

I'll admit I tried something similar in the car before I even got home with him. Didn't quite feel natural in my hand, though, and didn't look right when not in the hand. I hope Sixshot's "submarine" mode fares better.

Still, if I need a third mode for Galvatron, his vehicle mode (which I thought I'd detest) has been growing on me...

I dunno what they remolded to make him.... Legs kinda look like Alhpa Trion's, But that popped collar looks a lot like Sentinel Prime's...either way I want one. I hope this is an offical figure. please don't be a kitbash, please don't be a kitbash, please don't be a kitbash...

Stuartmaximus wrote:Opposite of Metroplex.....Trypticon....and we're getting one

Opposite of Fort Max....Scorponok....and we're getting one of those too

They were talking about distribution wave case assortments, not general character rivalries.

Bradimus wrote:Not sure if anyone posted this yet. I figured out Galvatron's hand laser mode:

I did that as well. Then I decided to take off that extra piece that flips around on the cannon. It bothered me that it wasn't painted and it really only gets in the way in robot and cannon modes. I also moved the little purple piece around 180 degrees for a different reason while I was at it. Once I removed it, the "handle" can be moved into a better position. It still isn't perfect though as it sits way too far forward and if you try to get it flush, it will push up on the cannon enough to move it past the locking point making the cannon angle slightly upwards. I also moved the leg panels down and around my wrist as a sort of bracing point. It just makes you wonder why they didn't add in a second set of hinges on the cockpit to make it flip backwards and connect to the bottom of the cannon along Galvatron's back. They even could've called it a gun mode as Galvatron's cannon is already safety orange. Unless there's other things that need to be done to make toy guns legal in the United States. It's not important in any way but it's something that could've been added in so easily but wasn't.

Despite the better gun mode that I got out of removing that extra piece on the cannon, I decided to just remove the cockpit entirely. It still frictions into place quite nicely even without the pin if I ever want it back. Now that I removed the cockpit, I just use the spaceship mode as a flying cannon mode. The little purple piece that I had flipped around earlier now serves as a forward landing strut. It can sit flush on a flat surface if you adjust the arms and treads enough to make it flush. I would've left the cockpit on if it didn't interfere with the waist articulation. At first I took off the little purple panel but I felt that both alt modes suffered for it so I put it back on. Then I noticed that the purple panel would've been fine so long as the cockpit wasn't there too so that's when I decided to remove it instead.

I love Galvatron in general and I can't wait to get the Legends version as well. I have it paid for but it's sitting in my stack waiting for Computron and Blurr. But since Computron now says September instead of August, I'll probably wait for Weirdwolf too while hoping that a Scourge becomes available when they get their shipment in. Right now I have Galvatron flanked by the two Universe Galvatrons I had as drones in front of Galvatronus. Legends Galvatron will be flanked by two Challenge at Cybertron Galvatrons and Grand Galvatron behind them. Hasbro Galvatron will also have two Universe Cyclonus in the mix while the Takara Galvatron will have one RTS and one CaC Cyclonus in that mix. Once I have the spare money to get a second Universe Cyclonus, the Challenge set and then a second Challenge Galvatron that is. I haven't decided on what to do about Scourge yet. Maybe my two Generations Scourge with a Takara Scourge leading them and then two TR Scourge with a Legends Scourge leading them at the same time? I don't know how to deal with the two leading Scourge though or Cyclonus for that matter. I'm just glad that I really don't have the money for any Botcon Wings figures. Otherwise I'd also have two out of three of the Sweeps and the box set Scourge too.

Oh and while I'd love a voyager Straxus from the Galvatron mold, I'll add in a contender for an Autobot use of the mold. Sure this is the least likely character to get a toy but then again, Scrounge became a toy. Not to mention that these colors on Galvatron would be incredible. Flame from the UK Marvel comics.

While the Springer mold is awesome, I wish Hasbro would make NEW awesome molds for these remakes of the g1 figures. They've proved they can do it when they take the time and effort. They've also proved they can run even a decent mold into the ground with constant repaints and remolds. We shall see what they've done this time out. Turning it into an aircraft carrier seems a bit of a reach...

DeathReviews wrote:While the Springer mold is awesome, I wish Hasbro would make NEW awesome molds for these remakes of the g1 figures. They've proved they can do it when they take the time and effort. They've also proved they can run even a decent mold into the ground with constant repaints and remolds. We shall see what they've done this time out. Turning it into an aircraft carrier seems a bit of a reach...

I, uh. I'm a bit confused by your comment. Are you under the assumption that this Broadside is a retool of Thrilling 30 Springer...?

Yotsuyasan wrote:I'll admit I tried something similar in the car before I even got home with him. Didn't quite feel natural in my hand, though, and didn't look right when not in the hand. I hope Sixshot's "submarine" mode fares better.

Still, if I need a third mode for Galvatron, his vehicle mode (which I thought I'd detest) has been growing on me...

It's not supposed to be a display piece, it's a fan mode handheld laser. But if it doesn't feel comfortable to hold I totally get that.

I appreciate the vehicle mode even though it was an afterthought. It is a toy after all and it works well enough.

Alpha Weltall wrote:I did that as well. Then I decided to take off that extra piece that flips around on the cannon. It bothered me that it wasn't pained and it really only gets in the way in robot and cannon modes. I also moved the little purple piece around 180 degrees for a different reason while I was at it. Once I removed it, the "handle" can be moved into a better position. It still isn't perfect though as it sits way to far forward and if you try to get it flush, it will push up on the cannon enough to move it past the locking point making the cannon angle slightly upwards. I also moved the leg panels down and around my wrist as a sort of bracing point. It just makes you wonder why they didn't add in a second set of hinges on the cockpit to make it flip backwards and connect to the bottom of the cannon along Galvatron's back. They even could've called it a gun mode as Galvatron's cannon is already safety orange. Unless there's other things that need to be done to make toy guns legal in the United States. It's not important in any way but it's something that could've been added in so easily but wasn't.

Too bad Hasbro didn't include a secret hand laser mode for us older fans to figure out. YouTube would have exploded with videos about that. I guess that's why they didn't do it.

Alpha Weltall wrote:Oh and while I'd love a voyager Straxus from the Galvatron mold, I'll add in a contender for an Autobot use of the mold. Sure this is the least likely character to get a toy but then again, Scrounge became a toy. Not to mention that these colors on Galvatron would be incredible. Flame from the UK Marvel comics.

I'd like to see that.

Carnivius_Prime wrote:Neat attempt of the laser. I haven't even begun to transform my Galvatron since I got him a few weeks ago and made the slight modifications to the cannon and mask. I just don't really care for the other modes and he's not really a Transformer who even used other modes very much at all. I doubt I'd care if the toy couldn't transform at all.

What do you mean attempt? Have you no imagination? Oh no, Kuros! Gotta go- ToQ-Change!

I really hope this is a test shot and not the finished version. The color scheme is terrible and all over the place. I really don't like the light gray plastic; it looks really cheap. I also wish the grayish brown torso color matched the gray on the arms and the head. I definitely see a faceplate and think its Broadside. The figure just needs a little fine-tuning that's all.

Maximal Rainmaker wrote:Broadside's gonna be so awesome!

It looks like he's retooled from both the Alpha Trion mold and the Astrotrain mold

They may share parts, but that does not totally make him a retool.

Titans Return seems to have introduced a new fad in designing figures: parts reuse between totally different molds. Blurr and Chromedome share some minor parts, yet they're completely different especially in transformation, and so do Scourge and Highbrow (pending). It's a step up from pre-tooling and seems to go further than CW Skydive vs. Air Raid, or even RotF vs. Cannon Bumblebee.

That said, the parts in question may look similar, but I'd say wait with conclusions until we see some higher resolution pictures.

Maybe if they just even out the colors. Like this:

Alpha Weltall wrote:

Bradimus wrote:Not sure if anyone posted this yet. I figured out Galvatron's hand laser mode:

I did that as well. Then I decided to take off that extra piece that flips around on the cannon. It bothered me that it wasn't pained and it really only gets in the way in robot and cannon modes. I also moved the little purple piece around 180 degrees for a different reason while I was at it. Once I removed it, the "handle" can be moved into a better position. It still isn't perfect though as it sits way to far forward and if you try to get it flush, it will push up on the cannon enough to move it past the locking point making the cannon angle slightly upwards. I also moved the leg panels down and around my wrist as a sort of bracing point. It just makes you wonder why they didn't add in a second set of hinges on the cockpit to make it flip backwards and connect to the bottom of the cannon along Galvatron's back. They even could've called it a gun mode as Galvatron's cannon is already safety orange. Unless there's other things that need to be done to make toy guns legal in the United States. It's not important in any way but it's something that could've been added in so easily but wasn't.

Despite the better gun mode that I got out of removing that extra piece on the cannon, I decided to just remove the cockpit entirely. It still frictions into place quite nicely even without the pin if I ever want it back. Now that I removed the cockpit, I just use the spaceship mode as a flying cannon mode. The little purple piece that I had flipped around earlier now serves as a forward landing strut. It can sit flush on a flat surface if you adjust the arms and treads enough to make it flush. I would've left the cockpit on if it didn't interfere with the waist articulation. At first I took off the little purple panel but I felt that both alt modes suffered for it so I put it back on. Then I noticed that the purple panel would've been fine so long as the cockpit wasn't there too so that's when I decided to remove it instead.

I love Galvatron in general and I can't wait to get the Legends version as well. I have it paid for but it's sitting in my stack waiting for Computron and Blurr. But since Computron now says September instead of August, I'll probably wait for Weirdwolf too while hoping that a Scourge becomes available when they get their shipment in. Right now I have Galvatron flanked by the two Universe Galvatrons I had as drones in front of Galvatronus. Legends Galvatron will be flanked by two Challenge at Cybertron Galvatrons and Grand Galvatron behind them. Hasbro Galvatron will also have two Universe Cyclonus in the mix while the Takara Galvatron will have one RTS and one CaC Cyclonus in that mix. Once I have the spare money to get a second Universe Cyclonus, the Challenge set and then a second Challenge Galvatron that is. I haven't decided on what to do about Scourge yet. Maybe my two Generations Scourge with a Takara Scourge leading them and then two TR Scourge with a Legends Scourge leading them at the same time? I don't know how to deal with the two leading Scourge though or Cyclonus for that matter. I'm just glad that I really don't have the money for any Botcon Wings figures. Otherwise I'd also have two out of three of the Sweeps and the box set Scourge too.

Oh and while I'd love a voyager Straxus from the Galvatron mold, I'll add in a contender for an Autobot use of the mold. Sure this is the least likely character to get a toy but then again, Scrounge became a toy. Not to mention that these colors on Galvatron would be incredible. Flame from the UK Marvel comics.

Is it me...or does Flame look like Hot Rod/Rodimus

Broadside27 wrote:Maybe if they just even out the colors. Like this:

AMAZING!!

BTW, upon seeing this, I just realized that Energon Jetfire is totally a Broadside homage in terms of color.

Speaking of Galvatron.....maybe someone should repaint Nucleon as Emirate Xaaron

Bradimus wrote:Also, what characters could Hot Rod be retooled into?

People have been speculating that he'll be retooled into Cyclonus. I remember someone here said it waaay back, and now it's even on the wiki. I'm starting to see it myself.

Mr Skram wrote:

Bradimus wrote:Also, what characters could Hot Rod be retooled into?

People have been speculating that he'll be retooled into Cyclonus. I remember someone here said it waaay back, and now it's even on the wiki. I'm starting to see it myself.

Uhm, where on the wiki? Again, sharing parts should no longer be used as an indicator of retools IMHO.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Mr Skram wrote:

Bradimus wrote:Also, what characters could Hot Rod be retooled into?

People have been speculating that he'll be retooled into Cyclonus. I remember someone here said it waaay back, and now it's even on the wiki. I'm starting to see it myself.

Uhm, where on the wiki? Again, sharing parts should no longer be used as an indicator of retools IMHO.

Its mentioned under the TR Hot Rod entry. It's by no means official, just speculation. I could see it as a Blurr to Brainstorm type retool tho.

Mr Skram wrote:Its mentioned under the TR Hot Rod entry. It's by no means official, just speculation. I could see it as a Blurr to Brainstorm type retool tho.

It was mentioned there (it's been long removed, as speculations tend to be). If anything, the leg design does call back to Cyclonus, but that by no means is an indicator of a TR Cyclonus, as it's also possibly a callback to SG Cyclonus. See my previous post for the rest of my thoughts.

I'm not saying it is or isn't going to happen, just that it's been mentioned somewhat often in several places and that I can see what they were talking about now. Not a big deal.

I had only just read it on the wiki a few days ago so it wasn't removed that long ago.