All three Coneheads are on his box art.LinaNui wrote:On the side on Sky lynx's box you can see artwork of Thrust. I found the picture in the earthrise photo gallery. I tried to add it here, but could not get it to download correctly.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
That guy's name was "Scorponok".aronjlove wrote:The middle stage is whoever this dude is
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
I vote for MegaZarak.Sabrblade wrote:That guy's name was "Scorponok".aronjlove wrote:The middle stage is whoever this dude is
In Japan, "Scorponok" was the name of the little guy while "MegaZarak" was the name of the big guy. Hasbro, on the other hand, uses "Scorponok" for the big guy and just "Zarak" (or "Lord Zarak") for the little guy.
But, in this Titan figure's case, there's now a third guy in the middle who is based on the animation model of the Japanese "Scorponok" while the little guy is based on the animation model of the American "Lord Zarak".
The little guy will obviously keep the "Zarak" name while the big guy gets the "Scorponok" name as per Hasbro's traditions, leaving the third guy in the middle currently a mystery.
Rodimus Prime wrote:I vote for MegaZarak.Sabrblade wrote:That guy's name was "Scorponok".aronjlove wrote:The middle stage is whoever this dude is
In Japan, "Scorponok" was the name of the little guy while "MegaZarak" was the name of the big guy. Hasbro, on the other hand, uses "Scorponok" for the big guy and just "Zarak" (or "Lord Zarak") for the little guy.
But, in this Titan figure's case, there's now a third guy in the middle who is based on the animation model of the Japanese "Scorponok" while the little guy is based on the animation model of the American "Lord Zarak".
The little guy will obviously keep the "Zarak" name while the big guy gets the "Scorponok" name as per Hasbro's traditions, leaving the third guy in the middle currently a mystery.
Yeah, there were obviously some dueling ideas and crossed wires behind the scenes of The Headmasters. It seems rather obvious that someone wanted to rename the big robot form to "Megazarak" to parallel how Fortress (Cerebros' Japanese counterpart) becomes Fortress Maximus, while someone else wanted to keep the Scorponok name. And through some comedy of errors, the large transtector got renamed to Megazarak while the Scorponok name was retained... but assigned to the non-scorpion guy who formed the head. One of many facepalm-worthy things about The Headmasters.Sabrblade wrote:That guy's name was "Scorponok".aronjlove wrote:The middle stage is whoever this dude is
In Japan, "Scorponok" was the name of the little guy while "MegaZarak" was the name of the big guy. Hasbro, on the other hand, uses "Scorponok" for the big guy and just "Zarak" (or "Lord Zarak") for the little guy.
I'm fine with just calling them both Zarak since both models ultimately derive from the 1987 Lord Zarak Headmaster Partner.Sabrblade wrote:But, in this Titan figure's case, there's now a third guy in the middle who is based on the animation model of the Japanese "Scorponok" while the little guy is based on the animation model of the American "Lord Zarak".
The little guy will obviously keep the "Zarak" name while the big guy gets the "Scorponok" name as per Hasbro's traditions, leaving the third guy in the middle currently a mystery.
Indeed they are. Thrust and Ramjet are drawn based on the original 1985 toys (the rectangular-bottomed frameless cockpit canopies give it away), but that's presumably because the artist grabbed the first ref they could find.Sabrblade wrote:All three Coneheads are on his box art.LinaNui wrote:On the side on Sky lynx's box you can see artwork of Thrust. I found the picture in the earthrise photo gallery. I tried to add it here, but could not get it to download correctly.
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To me it just makes sense that Zarak < MegaZarak < Scorponok.JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Rodimus Prime wrote:I vote for MegaZarak.Sabrblade wrote:That guy's name was "Scorponok".aronjlove wrote:The middle stage is whoever this dude is
In Japan, "Scorponok" was the name of the little guy while "MegaZarak" was the name of the big guy. Hasbro, on the other hand, uses "Scorponok" for the big guy and just "Zarak" (or "Lord Zarak") for the little guy.
But, in this Titan figure's case, there's now a third guy in the middle who is based on the animation model of the Japanese "Scorponok" while the little guy is based on the animation model of the American "Lord Zarak".
The little guy will obviously keep the "Zarak" name while the big guy gets the "Scorponok" name as per Hasbro's traditions, leaving the third guy in the middle currently a mystery.
Actually, I believe "Lord Zarak" is the name of the middle stage, leaving the Titan Master unnamed. Apeface's partner Spasma went unnamed on his packaging, I could see them do the same for Scorponok.
That would be the most sensible, but it's been pointed out to me that Hasbro Pulse's order page for Scorponok names the middleman "Lord Zarak" while the smaller guy goes nameless.Rodimus Prime wrote:To me it just makes sense that Zarak < MegaZarak < Scorponok.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Wasn't that called Fortress?ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:I'll say this: In The Headmasters, Fortress' interim body (which would be Cerebros in the US) didn't have its own name.
It did as a toy. Takara named the Spike figure "Cerebros", the Cerebros figure "Fortress", and the big guy remained "Fortress Maximus".ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:I'll say this: In The Headmasters, Fortress' interim body (which would be Cerebros in the US) didn't have its own name.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Yes, but so was the head, at least in the show. In The Headmasters, since the conceit was that the larger robot bodies were just puppets for the guys who formed the heads (also seen in the US cartoon with Scorponok and Fort Max), they ignored the toy packaging and used the same name for both the body and the head robot.Rodimus Prime wrote:Wasn't that called Fortress?ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:I'll say this: In The Headmasters, Fortress' interim body (which would be Cerebros in the US) didn't have its own name.
Sabrblade wrote:That would be the most sensible, but it's been pointed out to me that Hasbro Pulse's order page for Scorponok names the middleman "Lord Zarak" while the smaller guy goes nameless.Rodimus Prime wrote:To me it just makes sense that Zarak < MegaZarak < Scorponok.
Though, I suppose another sensible naming scheme could be "Zarak < Lord Zarak < Scorponok".
Mirage1279 wrote:What's up my fellow collectors, I'm new here and would love to know when this new wave of Earthrise figures will be available. So to my knowledge, Target had been selling them but they're not listed on the Target site,its an in store only deal.Looking to add these Transformers to my collection.I also collect vintage G.I.JOES and new modern Star Wars figures.Glad to be a part of this awesome community. Autobots roll out.
Sabrblade wrote:Has it been said, officially, yet what the name of Scorponok's middleman head bot will be? "Megazarak" is currently just a fan guess, as far as I know.
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