Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread
Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread
Posted by -Kanrabat- Sun Jun 14, 2020 7:55 pm
It's that simple."
For now, my G1 do the job. But I wouldn't mind if they'd remake him properly this time.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread
Posted by Rodimus Prime Sun Jun 14, 2020 8:04 pm
Let me refine that comment a bit. The robot mode for G1 Scorpy seems very blockish and inarticulate compared to ER Scorponok. His scorpion mode is not bad. If I had the money, I'd get both Scorponok and Zarak (if he'll be made) because technically they're 2 completely separate characters. And it's not like Zarak would be a straight repaint of Scorponok, they would change some things, most notably the head. I assume it would still be a double headmaster like Scorponok, so I wonder what the smaller robots would be called. One of them has to be Devil Z, but which one?-Kanrabat- wrote:Rodimus Prime wrote:Really? Compared to the Titan figure, the old G1 figure looks like a Tonka toy. Unless you have a strict rule against getting more than 1 of each mold, I'd say grab ER Scorponok.
You're the first to even made that waky comparison.
But yeah, I do have a rule is no doubles for titans. I have G1 Fortmax so I sold my underwhelming CW Fortmax. I never had and don't plan to have G1 Omega, Trippy, nor 'Plex. So by getting a Select Zarak, I'd be cheating just a bit. It's the character that I really want after all.
Still, if Zarak is not announced by the time of the last batch of Scorponoks hit stores on sale (like for my Omega Supreme), I'll just get Scorpy.
As for Scourge, I also hope for a new one, preferably a voyager. That way the TR figure coukd become just a random sweep and be a troop builder.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread
Posted by -Kanrabat- Sun Jun 14, 2020 8:16 pm
It's that simple."
But for Omega Supreme, I "always wanted it" since my early childhood. But once I got a proper look at it with my adult eyes, I noped. He's just a big football with kibbles. Plus he don't transform. He simply explode in a zillion pieces like a lego set. There's a limit to partsforming. So I was glad to get only the Siege one.
As for G1 Metroplex and Trypticon, both look great but are way too expensive and would be irrelevant because I have the modern ones.
So, if Select Black Zarak happen and have remoldings compared to ER Scorponok, it would be even better. I'll finally be able to get a TRUE Black Zarak without having to buy the super expensive (and weird looking) Maketoys version.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread
Posted by Emerje Sun Jun 14, 2020 8:30 pm
Skritz wrote:I really hope Earthrise has a Scourge/Sweeps waiting in the wings...
It would be strange if we didn't get a Scourge at retail and maybe a Selects Sweep in slightly darker or lighter colors to go with the rumored Galvatron and leaked Cyclonus. If not in ER then certainly in part 3.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread
Posted by o.supreme Sun Jun 14, 2020 8:36 pm
Sabrblade wrote:The thing is, in Masterforce, Grand Max was only ever just a second tier player who always played second fiddle to God Ginrai, while BlackZarak went on to achieve main antagonist status what with his having been both the main villain of the previous series in snazzy a new form and the host body for Devil Z.o.supreme wrote:IMHO, both BZ and Grand are of equal importance in TF fiction. As to whether or not one is well liked more than the other overall, wh can say? I equally like them both.
That is true, and I understand for the point of the narrative, and Ginrai being the hero why that is the case. Although both Grand and BZ were physically smaller than their Headmasters series counterparts, they were considerably more powerful. And yes of course, BZ's power increased significantly after being possessed by Devil Z. Also, while Grand played 2nd or 3rd fiddle to Ginrai and Metalhawk, he made such significant contributions as providing the plans for the Godbomber.
The 2 part episode which is basically a tag-tam battle on the moon between Overlord & BZ vs God Ginrai and Grand Maximus is probably my favorite of the series, the one time whe Grand actually gets to fight BZ somewhat.
I figured Grand had the same problem as Omega Supreme or Metroplex in previous series. Sort of a "Superman Syndrome" you cant use them all the time, because they would always win, and finding threats big enough for them to need to be used were few and far between, without stealing the spotlight of the hero Ginrai.
I believe there was a BZ homage made form Energon Scorponok a few years back, but yeas, to have a modern titan BZ would be amazing. I look forward as the weeks go on to more Earthrise reveals overall.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread
Posted by Sabrblade Sun Jun 14, 2020 9:55 pm
If by just "Zarak" you mean BlackZarak, then... No, they were the same guy.Rodimus Prime wrote:If I had the money, I'd get both Scorponok and Zarak (if he'll be made) because technically they're 2 completely separate characters.
Well, okay, BlackZarak technically got a new identity when he became the physical host for Devil Z, but on his own, he was Scorponok in a new upgraded (admittedly smaller, but still more powerful) form.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread
Posted by Rodimus Prime Sun Jun 14, 2020 11:29 pm
That's splitting hairs. Yeah, I meant Devil Z. It's been a few years since I've seen Masterforce, I remembered Black Zarak being the transtector for Devil Z. I didn't even remember that he was around before that. I guess it's time to watch Headmasters and Masterforce again.Sabrblade wrote:If by just "Zarak" you mean BlackZarak, then... No, they were the same guy.Rodimus Prime wrote:If I had the money, I'd get both Scorponok and Zarak (if he'll be made) because technically they're 2 completely separate characters.
Well, okay, BlackZarak technically got a new identity when he became the physical host for Devil Z, but on his own, he was Scorponok in a new upgraded (admittedly smaller, but still more powerful) form.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread
Posted by Sabrblade Sun Jun 14, 2020 11:32 pm
Yeah, Devil Z's a ball of energy. BlackZarak was Scorponok in a new form from outer space, who came to Earth in the show long after Devil Z was already there.Rodimus Prime wrote:That's splitting hairs. Yeah, I meant Devil Z. It's been a few years since I've seen Masterforce, I remembered Black Zarak being the transtector for Devil Z. I didn't even remember that he was around before that. I guess it's time to watch Headmasters and Masterforce again.Sabrblade wrote:If by just "Zarak" you mean BlackZarak, then... No, they were the same guy.Rodimus Prime wrote:If I had the money, I'd get both Scorponok and Zarak (if he'll be made) because technically they're 2 completely separate characters.
Well, okay, BlackZarak technically got a new identity when he became the physical host for Devil Z, but on his own, he was Scorponok in a new upgraded (admittedly smaller, but still more powerful) form.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread
Posted by Sentinel_Primal Sun Jun 14, 2020 11:39 pm
Though, I will say, a Commander class Scorponok would be an instant buy just because he'd be tall, but not so tall that he can't really be with other Decepticons without dwarfing them. Especially because while the Titan Scorponok looks great, at that size, I feel it definitely represents Zarak+Scorponok, rather than just Scorponok
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread
Posted by -Kanrabat- Mon Jun 15, 2020 3:55 am
It's that simple."
Sentinel_Primal wrote:Honestly, if they are going to do Black Zarak, I'd rather it be Leader or Commander class because I plan to pick up Scorponok, and prefer not to buy repaints of Titans.
Though, I will say, a Commander class Scorponok would be an instant buy just because he'd be tall, but not so tall that he can't really be with other Decepticons without dwarfing them. Especially because while the Titan Scorponok looks great, at that size, I feel it definitely represents Zarak+Scorponok, rather than just Scorponok
Such a smaller Scorpy would be in line with the Marvel comics. That would be the Scorpy who was the creator of the pretenders in the comicverse.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread
Posted by -Kanrabat- Mon Jun 15, 2020 4:35 am
It's that simple."
ZeroWolf wrote:A smaller Scorp would also fit old IDWverse where he wasn't that much bigger then UM.
Still in a way we already have him with the G1 original.
I bet there will be an undersized KO of the ER Titan at the very least if some Chinese bootlegger is paying attention.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot Mon Jun 15, 2020 5:20 am
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman Mon Jun 15, 2020 7:34 am
Cyclonus looks like he'll be neat.
After seeing confirmation that the production ER Megs will just be plain flat gray like the original SIEGE Megs... I'm back to wanting him cancelled and turned into RiD Bludgeon. IMO there is no redeeming value to him as a Megatron toy now.
* Cyb. Galvatron key, missiles
* Omega Lock
* Primus Cyber Key, coattail panel
* Powerlinx Comettor
* Leader Sentinel Prime sword, shield
* RiD Galvy dragon head, beast arms
* Leader Ironhide windshield, R hood assy.
* Cyb. Wing Saber left chestplate (argh)
We don't have kings in America
Trading MOSC MMPR fliphead Pink Ranger for ER Fasttrack or SIEGE Refraktor
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread
Posted by Bounti76 Mon Jun 15, 2020 1:38 pm
Emerje wrote:Rodimus Prime wrote:So is the spear mode a good indicator that Black Zarak will be made? Scorponok didn't have a spear, so the main reason for it would be to redeco it for Black Zarak, right?
It's been all but confirmed that we're getting Ririchi (Black Zarack's gold Fasttrack) in Selects which appears to be Hasbro initiated of all things. Pair that with it having a spear mode and...
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I don't recall Roritchi ever being revealed, let alone hinted at (until it was announced that Fasttrack has a spear mode). When was this?
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread
Posted by Mindmaster Mon Jun 15, 2020 1:41 pm
Va'al wrote:I keep track of everyone. Backwards.
There are atandarfs to maintain.
LOST Cybertronian wrote:Hey, If Mindmaster survived then you should do just fine.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread
Posted by o.supreme Mon Jun 15, 2020 1:43 pm
Wish List of Modern Combiners: Road Caesar, Monstructor & Dinoking (proper size to fiction), Landcross, Guard City, Battle Gaia, & G2 Defensor. Wish List of Titans:Metrotitan,Majin Zarak
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread
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Posted by sol magnus Mon Jun 15, 2020 6:34 pm
Stargrave wrote:Emerje wrote:chuckdawg1999 wrote:Rodimus Knight wrote:I forsee Maverick being repainted into a GI Joe skystriker.
My first thought when I saw Skylynx was the Defiant Shuttle Complex.
It was said in a leak a while back that we do have a G.I.Joe crossover figure coming sometime soon. At the time I said a Sky Lynx Defiant would be ideal, but now with Maverick revealed I'm leaning towards a Skystriker repaint, maybe named Ace (or probably Captain Ace). I hope Maverick turns out well because it has a lot of potential.
Totally had not heard that Joe news and have totally been on a Joe kick lately. Captain Ace, love that! Just don’t want them to have vehicles that turn into a robo Duke or CyberDestro it could go funky like the spindly oft-awkward Star Wars crossovers. Brrr, cringy.
Sky Lynx and the Defiant have zero in common other than the generic name of "space shuttle." And the Defiant was armed.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread
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They had three. Now they have two.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread
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