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Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby o.supreme » Mon Aug 31, 2020 1:34 pm

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Cobotron wrote: Instead of Go-Bots, what if this is a planet of Cityformers?

what if this is how we are getting...... wait for it........

Black Zarak!!! :BOOM:

I could see them going with 2-packs of smaller figures for all 5 of these releases, but I could also see Amazon taking a chance on a $170 exclusive. Their track record for exclusives is pretty good.



I still think if we see Black Zarak it is likely to be a TT Selects, and I don't see the pre-order being less than $200 for starters. But, Hey, if what you say comes to pass, I'll order it day one for sure.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby -Kanrabat- » Mon Aug 31, 2020 1:45 pm

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o.supreme wrote:
I still think if we see Black Zarak it is likely to be a TT Selects, and I don't see the pre-order being less than $200 for starters. But, Hey, if what you say comes to pass, I'll order it day one for sure.


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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Mon Aug 31, 2020 1:56 pm

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Cobotron wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Thoughts on the planets:

-Paradron: self explanatory
-Micron: Micromaster 10-pack Part II
-Botropolis: Go-Bots (Playskool Gobots)
-Dominus: "Planet Master", headmaster/battlemaster set?
-Biosfera: "Biosphere", planet of beasts

This all seems highly logical, but I have one different theory. It's a wild and crazy one but hear me out. Botropolis's icon is that of a city. Instead of Go-Bots, what if this is a planet of Cityformers?

what if this is how we are getting...... wait for it........

Black Zarak!!! :BOOM:

I could see them going with 2-packs of smaller figures for all 5 of these releases, but I could also see Amazon taking a chance on a $170 exclusive. Their track record for exclusives is pretty good.

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby blackeyedprime » Mon Aug 31, 2020 4:42 pm

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Wooop Scorponoks on his way from Amazon UK :) says 3rd so it will probably be delivered on the 2nd if my last order is anything to go by.

*arrived today in a box big enough to be some sort of flat pack computer desk. Not sure why amazon emails saying it will be delivered on x date and then they deliver it before. Kind of a pain if working not that I have that pain at the mo.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby Emerje » Mon Aug 31, 2020 7:59 pm

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Deadput wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Deadput wrote:
Rodimus Prime wrote:As for the Cybertron analogy, that would mean the WFC events are taking place in present time, not "millions of years ago" like in a lot of other continuities.

I would love to see this for once.
GoBots did it back in 1984. ;)

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Deadput wrote:A war wouldn't last that long realistically even stretching it for a fictional franchise a million year war does not sound possible when it comes to how "advance" the Transformers are


Are they advanced, though?

Yeah, they got super computers and energy constructs... Which they use to make medieval weapons for dramatic 1v1 duels between their leaders. It's a civil war being fought within a society where everyone is almost impossible to (permanently) kill, half the soldiers still use swords, WMDs are comically impractical,
the best strategic weapons consists of five or six soldiers engaging in a vertical gymnastic orgy, and the most efficient way to defeat an enemy is by literally chewing him up.

I've always thought of the use of swords and other melee weapons as a form of energy conservation for a civilization that has had a long drought on power resources. Even an electrified club or super hot sword wouldn't use close to the amount of energy that a laser powerful enough to shoot through metal would consume.

Likewise I've always thought that a large number of Transformers on both sides would regularly go into voluntary stasis also to reserve energy. The war may have gone on for millions of years, but most of those fighting in it from the start may have only experienced a few thousand.

o.supreme wrote:I still think if we see Black Zarak it is likely to be a TT Selects, and I don't see the pre-order being less than $200 for starters. But, Hey, if what you say comes to pass, I'll order it day one for sure.

Last year I might have agreed with you, but Hasbro having initiated Black Roritchi's release and that figure not even guaranteed a release in Japan (only four or five Hasbro Selects figures have been released in Japan) I'm not so sure anymore. Of course that's even assuming it happens at all. I just wouldn't be surprised if it was Hasbro's like I would be if it's, say, their take on Grand Maximus or Metrotitan.

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby Flashwave » Mon Aug 31, 2020 9:03 pm

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Emerje wrote:
Deadput wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Deadput wrote:
Rodimus Prime wrote:As for the Cybertron analogy, that would mean the WFC events are taking place in present time, not "millions of years ago" like in a lot of other continuities.

I would love to see this for once.
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Dr. Caelus wrote:
Deadput wrote:A war wouldn't last that long realistically even stretching it for a fictional franchise a million year war does not sound possible when it comes to how "advance" the Transformers are


Are they advanced, though?

Yeah, they got super computers and energy constructs... Which they use to make medieval weapons for dramatic 1v1 duels between their leaders. It's a civil war being fought within a society where everyone is almost impossible to (permanently) kill, half the soldiers still use swords, WMDs are comically impractical,
the best strategic weapons consists of five or six soldiers engaging in a vertical gymnastic orgy, and the most efficient way to defeat an enemy is by literally chewing him up.

I've always thought of the use of swords and other melee weapons as a form of energy conservation for a civilization that has had a long drought on power resources. Even an electrified club or super hot sword wouldn't use close to the amount of energy that a laser powerful enough to shoot through metal would consume.

Likewise I've always thought that a large number of Transformers on both sides would regularly go into voluntary stasis also to reserve energy. The war may have gone on for millions of years, but most of those fighting in it from the start may have only experienced a few thousand.

o.supreme wrote:I still think if we see Black Zarak it is likely to be a TT Selects, and I don't see the pre-order being less than $200 for starters. But, Hey, if what you say comes to pass, I'll order it day one for sure.

Last year I might have agreed with you, but Hasbro having initiated Black Roritchi's release and that figure not even guaranteed a release in Japan (only four or five Hasbro Selects figures have been released in Japan) I'm not so sure anymore. Of course that's even assuming it happens at all. I just wouldn't be surprised if it was Hasbro's like I would be if it's, say, their take on Grand Maximus or Metrotitan.

Emerje

We have seen a dew cases in this line where the figures are identical, but Takara chose to release them through different mediums. I'm still not convinced that this isn't just Hasbro looking for something unique to do as a redeco like the Powerdashers were
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby Gundown113 » Mon Aug 31, 2020 10:24 pm

Anyone want to see Hasbro make the Black On Black ( Mad Max's car)?
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby Wolfman Jake » Mon Aug 31, 2020 10:54 pm

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Flashwave wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:Not only that but I think time did flow differently on Cybertron and Earth. A day on Cybertron could very well be just an hour on Earth and a year just a month.

There's also all that time relativity that come with space travel. So with some technobabble, it's possible that the Ark actually flew through time and went to the past while going faster than light. So the Ark went millions of years into the past then crashed.

Eh, same thing did happen with Beast Wars.
I forgot about that. The distance travelled through dpace is shorter and therefore takes less time than going the long way round or something. So time on the ark might have been less than time aroumd it or some such. Einstein makes my head hurt


That's not really how light speed travel and special relativity work. You don't go backwards in time via space travel, but it IS true that the apparent passage of time varies depending on your reference frame (e.g., how fast you travel compared to someone else). Time dilation is not really time travel, per se. ;)
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby Emerje » Tue Sep 01, 2020 1:47 am

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Flashwave wrote:
Emerje wrote:
o.supreme wrote:I still think if we see Black Zarak it is likely to be a TT Selects, and I don't see the pre-order being less than $200 for starters. But, Hey, if what you say comes to pass, I'll order it day one for sure.

Last year I might have agreed with you, but Hasbro having initiated Black Roritchi's release and that figure not even guaranteed a release in Japan (only four or five Hasbro Selects figures have been released in Japan) I'm not so sure anymore. Of course that's even assuming it happens at all. I just wouldn't be surprised if it was Hasbro's like I would be if it's, say, their take on Grand Maximus or Metrotitan.

Emerje

We have seen a dew cases in this line where the figures are identical, but Takara chose to release them through different mediums. I'm still not convinced that this isn't just Hasbro looking for something unique to do as a redeco like the Powerdashers were

Takara Tomy has only released Selects figures through Takara Tomy Mall. And while Hasbro has released every single one of TT's Selects figures, TT has only released Hasbro's Nightbird, Powerdasher Zeta, and Smokescreen, that's it. The chances of Roritchi being a sign that Takara Tomy is going to do a Black Zarak any time soon is pretty slim, but slightly better for Hasbro, especially since they bothered to give the Fasttrack mold a spear mode despite Scorponok never wielding a spear. I do feel like we need a Red Roritchi so we can have a proper red spear if Black Zarak does actually happen.

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby -Kanrabat- » Tue Sep 01, 2020 4:40 am

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Tue Sep 01, 2020 6:15 am

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I've gotten so paranoid that we aren't going to see some of these figures in stores that last night I went and pre-ordered all the deluxes I wanted to be safe. I'm not risking it this year. Once Snapdragon arrives (should be today) I will have the 1 voyager and 2 leaders I wanted from the line, so it's all down to 2 battlemasters, 2 micromasters, and 6 deluxes for the line for me.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Tue Sep 01, 2020 6:24 am

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Amazon was really late in shipping out my Coneheads 2-pack, but it finally arrived last night.

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby -Kanrabat- » Tue Sep 01, 2020 6:48 am

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D-Maximal_Primal wrote:I've gotten so paranoid that we aren't going to see some of these figures in stores that last night I went and pre-ordered all the deluxes I wanted to be safe. I'm not risking it this year. Once Snapdragon arrives (should be today) I will have the 1 voyager and 2 leaders I wanted from the line, so it's all down to 2 battlemasters, 2 micromasters, and 6 deluxes for the line for me.


I don't trust local distribution either. So I preordered ER and Cyber Arcees, plus ER Snapdragon from BBTS. Better pay a few dollars more to be safe rather than sorry.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby Gauntlet101010 » Tue Sep 01, 2020 8:26 am

Just letting anyone who's interested know, but Amazon.com seems to, finally, let Canadians, at least, pre-order the Ratchet / Paradon set.

It's not on amazon.ca, though. So it's still expensive. Probably not as expensive as it'll be on ebay, tho.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby sol magnus » Tue Sep 01, 2020 9:23 am

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So, my Bluestreak arrived from China yesterday and I shot a few pics.

Box art, which was only shown front and back in promos.
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Couple of poses real quick. Just like Prowl with Siege, Bluestreak's head is a miniature version of the Masterpiece head - it really comes clear on Bluestreak - they did a bang up job!
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Hilariously, the head on the side artwork is the Prowl head from Siege.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Tue Sep 01, 2020 1:09 pm

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Gauntlet101010 wrote:Just letting anyone who's interested know, but Amazon.com seems to, finally, let Canadians, at least, pre-order the Ratchet / Paradon set.

It's not on amazon.ca, though. So it's still expensive. Probably not as expensive as it'll be on ebay, tho.
Yeah, people from the UK are reporting the same.

Looks like they finally opened it up to the rest of the world, even if it's still just from Amazon US.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby blackeyedprime » Tue Sep 01, 2020 1:25 pm

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Same with the Ironhide/Prowl pack
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby Gauntlet101010 » Tue Sep 01, 2020 2:14 pm

blackeyedprime wrote:Same with the Ironhide/Prowl pack

That one was available to me through Amazon.ca from the start.

Although I can order it from Amazon.com, the ca site actually doesn't have it listed. Which is weird.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby o.supreme » Tue Sep 01, 2020 2:18 pm

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So, this past weekend I finally saw the Villain 2 pack at Target, as well as the MP Movie Starscream (didn't expect to see that), but here it is 09/01, and not even a sighting of ER deluxe wave 2 anywhere... :( .
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Tue Sep 01, 2020 2:37 pm

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The latest rumors regarding the Galactic Odyssey Collection are a 2-pack of Glyph and Tap-Out, and another set having a white redeco of Ironworks meant to go with the Micromaster Astro Squad.

Though, take these rumors with a grain of salt since said rumors also mentioned Spin-Out and Cordon who instead turned out to be a Selects 2-pack, not GOC.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Tue Sep 01, 2020 6:14 pm

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Got the 1 voyager I wanted from the line in today. He's only the 3rd voyager I've gotten from WFC as a whole, retail wise.

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby Hellscream9999 » Tue Sep 01, 2020 6:16 pm

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D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Got the 1 voyager I wanted from the line in today. He's only the 3rd voyager I've gotten from WFC as a whole, retail wise.

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Tue Sep 01, 2020 6:26 pm

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby Hellscream9999 » Tue Sep 01, 2020 6:30 pm

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D-Maximal_Primal wrote:There has been a problem with splitting biceps? mine doesn't have that

Yeah, some of the reviewers had it too, basically there is nothing securing the area where the elbow is and the mushroom peg just splits the bicep open a little, doesn't actually seem like it'll damage it. Dunno why it's happening, I opened it up, and there is no flashing in the joint, bought some gorilla glue, dunno if that's good to use on these things though
I am not a G1 fan, please treat my opinions as such.


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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby Sowndwave76 » Tue Sep 01, 2020 6:30 pm

Motto: "They wanna play my emotions, but I'm like the ocean-- too calm to get upset by somebody's notion."
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I'm digging the look of Bluestreak. Has he been confirmed as a Walgreens exclusive?
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