Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

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Transformers Earthrise Runabout Found in Stores but Not Available for Purchase

Postby william-james88 » Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:02 pm

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Yes, you read that right. As is more often than we'd like, Target places these internal street dates on their toy releases. And yet, places those same toys on the shelves. Such is the case with Runabout, which has actually been found in Target stores. Some fans have been able to buy him by bringing another deluxe to be scanned at the cash for purchase. The first sightings were in New York state and the toys purchased were soon put on e-bay. He is priced as a standard Earthrise deluxe but has his own assortment code.

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby LordBludgeon » Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:25 pm

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Interesting, I didn't know he was being sold in stores. Didn't see him at my local Target when I went yesterday. In fact, they had no deluxes on the shelf at the time. I'll have to pick up runabout and runamuck if I do see them.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby Jelze Bunnycat » Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:29 pm

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Another duo to pick up. First Dreadwind and Blackwing, then Battletrap and Skytread, now Beavis and Butthead. :lol:

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby aronjlove » Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:33 pm

Speaking of Target, Thrust should ship in two weeks. I wonder if that will get canceled too...
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby o.supreme » Sat Nov 21, 2020 8:19 pm

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I know Thrust seemingly has the "Villains" label slapped on his packaging, but I thought Runabout was supposed to also?
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby Jelze Bunnycat » Sat Nov 21, 2020 8:32 pm

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o.supreme wrote:I know Thrust seemingly has the "Villains" label slapped on his packaging, but I thought Runabout was supposed to also?


As a Target exclusive? He may originally not have been meant as one. :-?
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby aronjlove » Sat Nov 21, 2020 8:40 pm

o.supreme wrote:I know Thrust seemingly has the "Villains" label slapped on his packaging, but I thought Runabout was supposed to also?

The 2-pack with Ramjet & Dirge has the Cybertronian Villains label and Thrust is part of the crew so maybe they kept the theme with his packaging?
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby o.supreme » Sat Nov 21, 2020 9:02 pm

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Jelze Bunnycat wrote:
o.supreme wrote:I know Thrust seemingly has the "Villains" label slapped on his packaging, but I thought Runabout was supposed to also?


As a Target exclusive? He may originally not have been meant as one. :-?


Oh I'm certain Runabout was not originally meant to be a Target exclusive *cough*Wave 4*cough*, I just thought that with Thrust and Runabout basically in the same discussion, they both had that small label. Oh well, Hasbro is anything but consistent.

aronjlove wrote:The 2-pack with Ramjet & Dirge has the Cybertronian Villains label and Thrust is part of the crew so maybe they kept the theme with his packaging?


It was Skywarp and Thundercracker that had the Villains Label (not Ramjet and Dirge), also the Decepticon Clones had it. I guess it is a Target thing...except for poor Runabout.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby Jelze Bunnycat » Sat Nov 21, 2020 9:08 pm

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o.supreme wrote:
Jelze Bunnycat wrote:
o.supreme wrote:I know Thrust seemingly has the "Villains" label slapped on his packaging, but I thought Runabout was supposed to also?


As a Target exclusive? He may originally not have been meant as one. :-?


Oh I'm certain Runabout was not originally meant to be a Target exclusive *cough*Wave 4*cough*, I just thought that with Thrust and Runabout basically in the same discussion, they both had that small label. Oh well, Hasbro is anything but consistent.


He has his own assortment code according to the news item, so he's always been an exclusive, just not to Target maybe :P By contrast, TR Brainstorm was exclusive to Walgreens, yet had the regular Deluxe Class assortment code, indicating a last-minute change.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby aronjlove » Sat Nov 21, 2020 9:12 pm

o.supreme wrote:
Jelze Bunnycat wrote:
o.supreme wrote:I know Thrust seemingly has the "Villains" label slapped on his packaging, but I thought Runabout was supposed to also?


As a Target exclusive? He may originally not have been meant as one. :-?


Oh I'm certain Runabout was not originally meant to be a Target exclusive *cough*Wave 4*cough*, I just thought that with Thrust and Runabout basically in the same discussion, they both had that small label. Oh well, Hasbro is anything but consistent.

aronjlove wrote:The 2-pack with Ramjet & Dirge has the Cybertronian Villains label and Thrust is part of the crew so maybe they kept the theme with his packaging?


It was Skywarp and Thundercracker that had the Villains Label (not Ramjet and Dirge), also the Decepticon Clones had it. I guess it is a Target thing...except for poor Runabout.

Oops, my bad, I knew it was one of the Seeker two packs. Thought it was the Amazon one though since the Prowl/Ironhide says Autobot Alliance.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

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Starseeker wrote:Just a heads up if anyone is interested, Amazon has Runamuck available for $17.88 and Airwave for $13.88!

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby o.supreme » Mon Nov 23, 2020 8:04 pm

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Starseeker wrote:Just a heads up if anyone is interested....and Airwave for $13.88!


Hmmm... Wonder if Amazon is price matching Walmart, or vice versa? I reported that price for Airwave at Walmart in the steal of a deal thread
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby Sowndwave76 » Wed Nov 25, 2020 5:30 pm

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It's been close to (if not more) than 3 weeks since I've seen any ER figures (minus the Clone 2 pack, and battle masters) at the local Target or Walmart...
I'm hoping this means any day now shelves will be full and the selection will be beyond what it's ever been in the last 6 months.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby Emerje » Wed Nov 25, 2020 6:58 pm

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Sowndwave76 wrote:It's been close to (if not more) than 3 weeks since I've seen any ER figures (minus the Clone 2 pack, and battle masters) at the local Target or Walmart...
I'm hoping this means any day now shelves will be full and the selection will be beyond what it's ever been in the last 6 months.

Yep, my local Target's and Walmarts' pegs are well stocked on Cyberverse, but there are only a few SS figures and no Earthrise Deluxe figures anywhere and Netflix is basically sold out at my two Walmarts.

I'm honestly curious how Target keeps getting exclusives from Hasbro in general, not just Transformers. Not only do they badly botch all of their exclusive releases, but they barely give any shelf space to their retail products. Walmart gives most classes multiple pegs and ample shelf space (despite passing on Battle Masters and Micromasters), same for things like G.I.Joe and Ghostbusters. Target, on the other hand, only gives each Transformers class one peg and the shelf space is a disorganized mess, while Ghostbusters get one peg and G.I.Joe gets one peg that's supposed to hold both regular and exclusive figures (and in my case currently full of overflow Ghostbusters figures). For some reason it feels like Target would rather people ask employees to get stuff from the stock room than to actually put stuff on shelves. :roll:

This is my Target as of last Friday. Too much old Siege stock (mainly that peg full of Battle Masters, a Megatron, and a few Shockwaves), too many things on the wrong shelves (that packed peg of Ghostbusters is supposed to be the 6" G.I.Joe peg), too much stuff on the wrong pegs and shelves (those Cyberverse Deluxes on the left are supposed to be on the right, Voyagers should be shifted over to the right), and that empty space in the middle under the Voyagers is for the Seeker 2 pack that they have never, ever had in stock. Does Target even have dedicated toy department staff? I never see any employees in that section while at Walmart there's always one or two people in the area stocking and arranging shelves.

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At least they had two Leadfoots, I bought mine online because I had no faith in him showing up in store.

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby King Kuuga » Wed Nov 25, 2020 9:33 pm

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Emerje wrote:
Sowndwave76 wrote:It's been close to (if not more) than 3 weeks since I've seen any ER figures (minus the Clone 2 pack, and battle masters) at the local Target or Walmart...
I'm hoping this means any day now shelves will be full and the selection will be beyond what it's ever been in the last 6 months.

Yep, my local Target's and Walmarts' pegs are well stocked on Cyberverse, but there are only a few SS figures and no Earthrise Deluxe figures anywhere and Netflix is basically sold out at my two Walmarts.

I'm honestly curious how Target keeps getting exclusives from Hasbro in general, not just Transformers. Not only do they badly botch all of their exclusive releases, but they barely give any shelf space to their retail products. Walmart gives most classes multiple pegs and ample shelf space (despite passing on Battle Masters and Micromasters), same for things like G.I.Joe and Ghostbusters. Target, on the other hand, only gives each Transformers class one peg and the shelf space is a disorganized mess, while Ghostbusters get one peg and G.I.Joe gets one peg that's supposed to hold both regular and exclusive figures (and in my case currently full of overflow Ghostbusters figures). For some reason it feels like Target would rather people ask employees to get stuff from the stock room than to actually put stuff on shelves. :roll:

This is my Target as of last Friday. Too much old Siege stock (mainly that peg full of Battle Masters, a Megatron, and a few Shockwaves), too many things on the wrong shelves (that packed peg of Ghostbusters is supposed to be the 6" G.I.Joe peg), too much stuff on the wrong pegs and shelves (those Cyberverse Deluxes on the left are supposed to be on the right, Voyagers should be shifted over to the right), and that empty space in the middle under the Voyagers is for the Seeker 2 pack that they have never, ever had in stock. Does Target even have dedicated toy department staff? I never see any employees in that section while at Walmart there's always one or two people in the area stocking and arranging shelves.

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At least they had two Leadfoots, I bought mine online because I had no faith in him showing up in store.

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby alekese » Wed Nov 25, 2020 9:40 pm

Emerje wrote:I'm honestly curious how Target keeps getting exclusives from Hasbro in general, not just Transformers. Not only do they badly botch all of their exclusive releases, but they barely give any shelf space to their retail products. Walmart gives most classes multiple pegs and ample shelf space (despite passing on Battle Masters and Micromasters), same for things like G.I.Joe and Ghostbusters. Target, on the other hand, only gives each Transformers class one peg and the shelf space is a disorganized mess, while Ghostbusters get one peg and G.I.Joe gets one peg that's supposed to hold both regular and exclusive figures (and in my case currently full of overflow Ghostbusters figures). For some reason it feels like Target would rather people ask employees to get stuff from the stock room than to actually put stuff on shelves.
Target gets a seat a the exclusives table because Toys R' Us' seat is now empty, as seen by the nearly 1:1 correlation between US target exclusives and canadian TRU, leadfoot included. Just file it away as another casualty of TRU's demise.
Emerje wrote:This is my Target as of last Friday. Too much old Siege stock (mainly that peg full of Battle Masters, a Megatron, and a few Shockwaves), too many things on the wrong shelves (that packed peg of Ghostbusters is supposed to be the 6" G.I.Joe peg), too much stuff on the wrong pegs and shelves (those Cyberverse Deluxes on the left are supposed to be on the right, Voyagers should be shifted over to the right), and that empty space in the middle under the Voyagers is for the Seeker 2 pack that they have never, ever had in stock. Does Target even have dedicated toy department staff? I never see any employees in that section while at Walmart there's always one or two people in the area stocking and arranging shelves.
From my personal retail experience, at Toys R' Us of all places, (Stayed to the bitter end!) there's a combination of factors behind sloppy toy aisles (and retail aisles in general):

1. Customers are lazy and don't take the time to put things back in the right spot after looking at it, or if the changed their mind later. Especially if it's something the kiddo grabbed from three aisles over and only just now showed off only to be rejected. It's always worst in the toy and apparel departments, but it happens in every part of every store. Reshop, which is staff putting things back where they belong, helps with that, but it's time and staff intensive, so it's one of the first things to fall by the wayside when understaffed, especially in departments that don't have perishables.

2.There's a lot of departments in a store, and back of building storage is at a premium. Toys are only one department out of many, so only so much room in the back of house storage area is used for them. The rest is stored at distribution warehouses, who fill up semi trailers and send them out to multiple stores in a large area. The in-system requests for more stock generally occur only when something runs out, but that doesn't matter if the distribution center flat out doesn't have it. Even then, it can take up to two weeks for it to go from restock request to back on the shelves, on a first come first serve basis. If every store runs out, there's only so much product to go around to replace it.

3. If they run things similarly to TRU, which they likely do, since there's only so much wiggle room for different ways to cut corners on staffing to "optimize" payroll to profit ratios, there's 1-2 staff bolted into place at customer service, 1 stapled to the counter in electronics as theft deterrent, 3-5 hot glued to the checkout aisles as cashiers, and everyone else is responsible for every part of the store. There might be some degree of designated department, but that goes out the window the second a customer asks for help. Most places require employees to drop everything to help a customer, even if it takes them to the other side of the store from their current task. All of this is made worse by the fact that, if it takes a shift of 15 people to accomplish everything that needs to be done at high quality, but 10 people can get 95% of it done at barely adequate quality, 9 people are got scheduled and only 7 showed up.

4. Full shelves matter more than diverse shelves. The perception that the store is well stocked matters. If there are a multitude of gaps where GI Joe, Marvel and megablocks should be, the customer's thought process is (in theory) that the store doesn't bother keeping things in stock and so shops elsewhere. But if they instead see wall to wall transformers, bakugan and star wars, then the customer's thought process, if they even notice the lack of Joes, is that those are temporarily out of stock but the store is otherwise well stocked. To use a metaphor, looking busy working is more important than working productively. I think it's bogus, but that's what we were told.

5. While the other reasons are year round, this one only applies to this week. It is two days before Black Friday. There NEEDS to be stock on the shelves Black Friday, especially in the toy department. They absolutely are holding and have been holding stock to put out Thanksgiving night for the following day. They would rather have disappointing shelves for two weeks, and restock then, than restock now and risk things selling out before black friday and having disappointing shelves then.

All of these reasons feed into and exacerbate each other. If a customer puts something back on the wrong empty peg, an overworked staffer will put out the matching case that's all they have from the stockroom on that peg so it looks full without checking to make sure it's right because they have seven other tasks to do in the next 15 minutes alone because two of the five people on the floor got called up to work register for the next hour due to a rush, but their work still needs doing.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby Gauntlet101010 » Thu Nov 26, 2020 9:03 pm

Finally got some wave 2 guys and Fasttrack. They were at a Toys R us further away from me ... they've been there for a few weeks, so I guess I'm lucky to have them now.

I decided to impulse buy Arcee. In the end I wanted to see how she was in-hand. I do like her better than just from pics, but ... yeah. The old one is just better overall. The new one is nice if you remove the backpack, but that's the only way she can win in bot mode and the old Arcee kills the competition in vehicle mode.

With an Alicon in my pile of loot at BBTS, I got the last two members I need for a fighting force of Alicons. His transformation is worse than the 3P Alicons, but he's still a very fun figure overall.

Fastrack was also there, so I guess I missed out on Runamuck for now. I like the Weaponizers. I wouldn't want a line of them, but there's just enough to keep them interesting. Not too many to make the entire concept lame, but enough to be varied.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby Emerje » Thu Nov 26, 2020 10:46 pm

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alekese wrote:*long post*

Honestly, I was never happy with the way TRU handled exclusives and really don't miss them as a retailer. As much as I complain about Target I have had far, far more success getting their exclusives.

Most of the problems in that picture aren't customer related, they're simply stocked wrong.

Unlike most retailers that put stuff on the floor as it comes off the truck it's well known that Target keeps additional stock in the back, you can check it on the price scanners and ask someone to get it for you.

And I've mentioned saving for Black Friday a few times recently, but that Earthrise peg they put that sale sticker on hasn't had anything on it since they did that endcap over the summer.

Anyway, speaking of Target, my Runabout shipped.

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby Nuclearxpotato » Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:31 pm

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Emerje wrote:
Anyway, speaking of Target, my Runabout shipped.

Emerje


This seems to confirm that Target never even processed my Pre-order (despite sending me through the entire process). By the time I realised they weren't listed under my account, it had been an hour and the pre-orders ran out. I'd suggest anyone else to check their Target account details to make sure it actually pre-ordered.

Here's to hoping any Targets I check actually stock him. :/
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby aronjlove » Mon Nov 30, 2020 1:03 pm

Amazon says the Paradron set shipped today but still no word on the Autobot Alliance other than 'expected Friday' and that doesn't fill me with confidence. Did anyone here receive the Autobot Alliance? Not a huge fan of Prowl but he's needed to finish the ER Datsun trio since I have the Siege trio, and I really like the little details in the earth mode update for Ironhide/Ratchet.
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