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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby gothsaurus » Mon Nov 11, 2019 1:00 pm

I'm hoping the Quints are a box set of figures (maybe with guards?). Something we can troop build with simple clicking rotating head and mix and match accessories that plug into 5mm pegs.

As for Quintessa, unless it's an Allicon, I'm at a loss. If they're going with bases, I hope they can all fit together with a unified look of a space city or factory. With Metroplex, Max, and Scorp and Trypticon all having dark gray, leaning on that (like for the one playset we've seen revealed) would make for a set with universal appeal and play value. I hope lots of small playsets and retools are on the way. That's such a fun figure and play pattern. They could keep repainting them (and the bridge guy) to match each titan and I'd keep buying them.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby Wolfman Jake » Mon Nov 11, 2019 1:08 pm

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We've been assuming a sort of straight redo of G1 with the "War for Cybertron Trilogy," but maybe it's really in aesthetics only? Hasbro could be taking a cue from Transformers Prime and The Last Knight, making Earth Unicron in disguise. At the end of Earthrise, Unicron (the Earth) will rise and attack Cybertron. The Quintessons and Quintessa might be trying to oppose Unicron, or be his heralds, or play another role entirely this time around.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby Nemesis Primal » Mon Nov 11, 2019 1:10 pm

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Sentinel_Primal wrote:This list seems a bit odd to me, especially because it lists two characters that don't really fit the Earth theme...
Nor does Scorponok, yet he's officially confirmed.

How does he not fit the theme? He's a classic G1 toy that has a base mode.
His altmodes aren't Earthen like those of the others seen so far.


I am surprised we still think there's a logic to this, there isn't. Many alt modes in Siege were not cybertronian anyways.

I think we also seem to keep forgetting that Hasbro keeps insisting at conventions and through the promotional texts that Earthrise is NOT actually set on Earth, it's supposed to be set in space. The name and alt modes keeps confusing people.

Personally, I could absolutely see this being real, given:
~We know half of the figures on it are real due to official reveals and previous leaks
~Sky Lynx lines up with the cryptic Commander "leak" we had previously seen
~The line is set in space, so seeing Quintessons here would be more likely than in a line actually set on Earth proper
~We know Hasbro likes mixing obscure characters in with the heavy hitters, and the only figure in the wave of Earthrise we've already seen who I'd consider obscure is Ironworks, so most of the surprises should still be coming
~We know Hasbro has the Quintesson adjacent character of Gnaw/the Sharkticons on their mind from the fan vote, this could be why
~We also have the third Mercenary faction coming, they could easily say the Quintessons hired them and that's what faction these two listings belong to (It wouldn't be the first time a Quintesson character seemingly hired Lockdown, at least)

I really just want to know what those figures look like, as I personally still want all my Transformers figures to actually transform, which the Quintessons aren't known to do, and the name Quintessa has been used to refer to a planet, a Titan, and a weird almost humanoid Quintesson lady before. There would have to be something more to at least the Quintesson listing, wouldn't a Voyager Class Quintesson be too big for Hasbro's cartoon scale unless it did or had something to make it fit that price point?
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby Skritz » Mon Nov 11, 2019 1:22 pm

Quintessa, a character from a total flop of a movie being ported to G1? I somehow highly doubt that.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby STngAR » Mon Nov 11, 2019 1:26 pm

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Hmmmm, very interesting news. Although out of it all I'm more exciting for that Scorponok.

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby Sentinel_Primal » Mon Nov 11, 2019 1:27 pm

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Skritz wrote:Quintessa, a character from a total flop of a movie being ported to G1? I somehow highly doubt that.

I briefly had blocked TLK out of my mind, so I thought you were referring to the 80s movie :lol: Either way, it might be decent? Assuming it happens at all
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby Skritz » Mon Nov 11, 2019 1:28 pm

That said, I have to say: I do have some decently high hopes for Mercenaries. Which I'm sure will be horribly dashed.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby Mindmaster » Mon Nov 11, 2019 1:44 pm

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Not interested in the MPMs, since I just stick with Studio Series, but I’m sure folks will like ‘em.

Consider me interested in the Quintesson and Sky Lynx, but I was hoping for Tidal Wave for the Commander class slot.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby Ultra Markus » Mon Nov 11, 2019 1:49 pm

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Maybe some of these quints are that of those gater like cons or another sharkticon mold and those 5 face guys and crew
Other than the TLK movie quintessa has no g1 reference other than their planet being called that
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby bluecatcinema » Mon Nov 11, 2019 1:50 pm

I hope the Quintesson rumor is true. We could finally get an actual figure based around those guys.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Mon Nov 11, 2019 2:07 pm

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Maybe Quintessa is a new micromaster base complete with bot mode for the mercenary faction. Would be nice if they used the names but give us something new with them.

I still go with the theory that the third part will be more future based hence why we had more than meets the eye nods in Siege and season 1 - 2 bot cars for Earthrise
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby Grahf_ » Mon Nov 11, 2019 2:49 pm

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Commander is still far too small for Sky Lynx unless each component is its own commander figure. I think even an old supreme class figure would still be too small but would be the minimum of what he should be. Titan would be the best to fully portray his size, dual bot nature and the fact that he's a quadruped with wings, a long neck and tail. That would have to happen after Scorponok though but I'm fine with that. It would also make sense that all the mainline titan class figures have titan class rivals.

Jetfire is roughly a bit over half the height of Predaking. Now cut that in half to make the two parts of Skylynx and put it on all fours with the articulated wings, neck and tail. He's really not going to be all that much larger than the CW voyager at that point. Much, much heavier but not really all that much larger. Not nearly as much as people are imagining anyway. Sure he's super simple to transform, especially the lynx so it's not like a huge amount of engineering would go into it or that he'd have a huge parts count in that half either but it'd still be way too small all things considered. Unless they make a CW/PotP size Predaking. Then he'd be the perfect size...yet still too small at the same time.

Yeah I'll still get it but I'm not looking forward to a commander sized Skylynx if the rumors are true.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Mon Nov 11, 2019 3:26 pm

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Alpha Weltall wrote:Commander is still far too small for Sky Lynx unless each component is its own commander figure.


Wasnt he the same size as computron in the cartoon?
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby NeonPrime » Mon Nov 11, 2019 3:36 pm

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Wow, Skylynx and the Quintessons are definitely interesting. Personally I was hoping to see more of the original 1984 line up, especially Sunstreaker,Jazz and Huffer. Siege has been a great way for me to finally add those characters to my collection.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Mon Nov 11, 2019 4:01 pm

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NeonPrime wrote:Wow, Skylynx and the Quintessons are definitely interesting. Personally I was hoping to see more of the original 1984 line up, especially Sunstreaker,Jazz and Huffer. Siege has been a great way for me to finally add those characters to my collection.

There's still time for some of them. Sunstreaker especially
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby Sentinel_Primal » Mon Nov 11, 2019 4:09 pm

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ZeroWolf wrote:
NeonPrime wrote:Wow, Skylynx and the Quintessons are definitely interesting. Personally I was hoping to see more of the original 1984 line up, especially Sunstreaker,Jazz and Huffer. Siege has been a great way for me to finally add those characters to my collection.

There's still time for some of them. Sunstreaker especially

I'd be surprised if we didn't see a new Sunstreaker soon given the new Sideswipe from Siege
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby Jelze Bunnycat » Mon Nov 11, 2019 4:13 pm

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Sentinel_Primal wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:
NeonPrime wrote:Wow, Skylynx and the Quintessons are definitely interesting. Personally I was hoping to see more of the original 1984 line up, especially Sunstreaker,Jazz and Huffer. Siege has been a great way for me to finally add those characters to my collection.

There's still time for some of them. Sunstreaker especially

I'd be surprised if we didn't see a new Sunstreaker soon given the new Sideswipe from Siege


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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby AcademyofDrX » Mon Nov 11, 2019 4:19 pm

I bet a million dollars we see Sunstreaker before the Earthrise Mercenaries Micromaster base Quintessa.

I'm so excited about this bridge this guy is going to sell me, it's in Brooklyn, it's gotta be worth a fortune.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Mon Nov 11, 2019 4:25 pm

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Hey its just a bit of fun ;) why so serious. I mean I know we're not getting a quint micromaster base, my thing was that Quintessa was a place name, the same as the other bases. There's more likelyhood that it's a renamed alicon, if it's true at all.

On some level I'd rather no quints at all, as I thought they just weren't good (their allies not included in this)
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby Rodimus Knight » Mon Nov 11, 2019 4:25 pm

Wasn't Quintessa the name of the mystical energy source in the recent Voltron Series?
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby Jelze Bunnycat » Mon Nov 11, 2019 4:35 pm

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Rodimus Knight wrote:Wasn't Quintessa the name of the mystical energy source in the recent Voltron Series?


That would be "Quintessence". The word itself has many definitions depending on what area it's used in, but down to the core it refers to the fifth element in Classic Alchemy, next to Fire, Earth, Water and Air. Sometimes referred to as Aether, it's viewed as the building block of the other four, and as perfect.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby Emerje » Mon Nov 11, 2019 4:38 pm

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Alpha Weltall wrote:Commander is still far too small for Sky Lynx unless each component is its own commander figure.


Wasnt he the same size as computron in the cartoon?

Pretty sure he means too small to pair with Titan Predaking. I think there's still some potential to get a rather large Sky Lynx though. Both halves are super simple figures and don't need to be made any more complex than the original since there's no real benefit to adding articulation. You really wouldn't want to add articulation to the "Sky" portion's legs since the joints probably wouldn't hold the body up easily so solid legs like the original is fine. The wings don't really benefit from bending at the body, but it probably would be easier to mold the body and wings separately. The neck and tail don't need to have every joint articulated, though maybe adding a way for the head to turn would be nice. The "Lynx" portion can be identical to the original, just with free moving leg joints. Jetfire used armor and weapons to pad his price point out, but Sky Lynx has no use for either so all that plastic can go back into the figure, just give him some fire breath effect parts.

The Quints are an odd thing to include this early, I really thought they'd be held over for 2021. I'm guessing Quintesson is the judge and Quintessa is the guard?

If Runamuck is already on this list does that mean they're actually doing a poll winner early and not holding them over for late in the line for a change?

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby NeonPrime » Mon Nov 11, 2019 4:53 pm

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ZeroWolf wrote:
NeonPrime wrote:Wow, Skylynx and the Quintessons are definitely interesting. Personally I was hoping to see more of the original 1984 line up, especially Sunstreaker,Jazz and Huffer. Siege has been a great way for me to finally add those characters to my collection.

There's still time for some of them. Sunstreaker especially

I'd be surprised if we didn't see a new Sunstreaker soon given the new Sideswipe from Siege


Don't be, we never got Sideswipe in Combiner Wars ;)


True,but Combiner Wars seemed like a dump and run as far as characters go :-P On the other hand Hasbro seems to be putting alot more effort into Siege as far as detail and quality goes. I'd bet that bridge in Brooklyn we see Trailbreaker (via Hoist) as a Select/exclusive so it would just be nice to keep the '84 momentum going. BTW ,I know it's a long shot but I really wish Hasbro would make the obscure characters exclusives and keep the main characters general retail. Just sayin'
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby AcademyofDrX » Mon Nov 11, 2019 5:56 pm

Emerje wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Alpha Weltall wrote:Commander is still far too small for Sky Lynx unless each component is its own commander figure.


Wasnt he the same size as computron in the cartoon?

Pretty sure he means too small to pair with Titan Predaking. I think there's still some potential to get a rather large Sky Lynx though. Both halves are super simple figures and don't need to be made any more complex than the original since there's no real benefit to adding articulation. You really wouldn't want to add articulation to the "Sky" portion's legs since the joints probably wouldn't hold the body up easily so solid legs like the original is fine. The wings don't really benefit from bending at the body, but it probably would be easier to mold the body and wings separately. The neck and tail don't need to have every joint articulated, though maybe adding a way for the head to turn would be nice. The "Lynx" portion can be identical to the original, just with free moving leg joints. Jetfire used armor and weapons to pad his price point out, but Sky Lynx has no use for either so all that plastic can go back into the figure, just give him some fire breath effect parts.

The Quints are an odd thing to include this early, I really thought they'd be held over for 2021. I'm guessing Quintesson is the judge and Quintessa is the guard?

If Runamuck is already on this list does that mean they're actually doing a poll winner early and not holding them over for late in the line for a change?

Emerje

It means the rumormonger thought using a confirmed but undated figure would lend credence to the rest of the list. Scorponok is similarly an "early" listing, as Titans have been late in their respective toylines.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby Regimus Prime » Mon Nov 11, 2019 6:02 pm

The Quintessons would be big news to me personally as I cannot remember Hasbro ever releasing an official offering of them outside of Gnaw. Somebody correct me if I'm wrong (and I may be). Either way this is perfect as we're getting Unicron also. :BOT:
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