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Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Tue Jan 22, 2019 4:03 pm

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I think the idea could do with exploring more to be fair. But this isn't the place to deal with that (although looking at Cyberverse the idea of colony worlds has taken root in some form)

As far as Siege is concerned though, it's all still to play for. Though I would be surprised if an Optimus or Megatron weren't part of the next line :lol:
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Tue Jan 22, 2019 4:41 pm

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ZeroWolf wrote:As far as Siege is concerned though, it's all still to play for. Though I would be surprised if an Optimus or Megatron weren't part of the next line :lol:



Indeed. My concern is Hasbro's "Evergreen" ethos is slowly pushing Transformers into irrelevance. Creatively, through the mindless push of G1, it is verging on He-Man territory. It is 2019, make Transformers something NEW.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby no-one » Tue Jan 22, 2019 4:52 pm

ZeroWolf wrote:As far as Siege is concerned though, it's all still to play for. Though I would be surprised if an Optimus or Megatron weren't part of the next line :lol:
I think having an Optimus and Megatron per line is a brand mantra. That would be a fun quiz or dive down the wiki, when was the last line that did not have both an Optimus Prime and Megatron?
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Tue Jan 22, 2019 4:54 pm

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carytheone wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:As far as Siege is concerned though, it's all still to play for. Though I would be surprised if an Optimus or Megatron weren't part of the next line :lol:
I think having an Optimus and Megatron per line is a brand mantra. That would be a fun quiz or dive down the wiki, when was the last line that did not have both an Optimus Prime and Megatron?

AOE and before then Alternators
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Ironhidensh » Tue Jan 22, 2019 4:56 pm

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william-james88 wrote:
carytheone wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:As far as Siege is concerned though, it's all still to play for. Though I would be surprised if an Optimus or Megatron weren't part of the next line :lol:
I think having an Optimus and Megatron per line is a brand mantra. That would be a fun quiz or dive down the wiki, when was the last line that did not have both an Optimus Prime and Megatron?

AOE and before then Alternators


Alternators had an Optimus Prime.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby no-one » Tue Jan 22, 2019 5:04 pm

Ironhidensh wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
carytheone wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:As far as Siege is concerned though, it's all still to play for. Though I would be surprised if an Optimus or Megatron weren't part of the next line :lol:
I think having an Optimus and Megatron per line is a brand mantra. That would be a fun quiz or dive down the wiki, when was the last line that did not have both an Optimus Prime and Megatron?
AOE and before then Alternators
Alternators had an Optimus Prime.
My joking point is that it's rare, so I'd expect to see both in some form in WFC part 2. Do we count all size classes in this dumb question or just the "appropriate" size class?

If we do see more OPs and Megs in future WFC lines, can they really top the Siege versions? So maybe we won't see any additional ones, unless line evolves from G1 and they keep the homages coming.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Tue Jan 22, 2019 5:05 pm

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Ironhidensh wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
carytheone wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:As far as Siege is concerned though, it's all still to play for. Though I would be surprised if an Optimus or Megatron weren't part of the next line :lol:
I think having an Optimus and Megatron per line is a brand mantra. That would be a fun quiz or dive down the wiki, when was the last line that did not have both an Optimus Prime and Megatron?

AOE and before then Alternators


Alternators had an Optimus Prime.
The question asked about both Optimus and Megatron.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Cobotron » Tue Jan 22, 2019 5:08 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:
Ironhidensh wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
carytheone wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:As far as Siege is concerned though, it's all still to play for. Though I would be surprised if an Optimus or Megatron weren't part of the next line :lol:
I think having an Optimus and Megatron per line is a brand mantra. That would be a fun quiz or dive down the wiki, when was the last line that did not have both an Optimus Prime and Megatron?

AOE and before then Alternators


Alternators had an Optimus Prime.
The question asked about both Optimus and Megatron.

Drawing a blank ATM. What was the Optimus in Thrilling 30? Orion Pax?
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Tue Jan 22, 2019 5:11 pm

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Cobotron wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Ironhidensh wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
carytheone wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:As far as Siege is concerned though, it's all still to play for. Though I would be surprised if an Optimus or Megatron weren't part of the next line :lol:
I think having an Optimus and Megatron per line is a brand mantra. That would be a fun quiz or dive down the wiki, when was the last line that did not have both an Optimus Prime and Megatron?

AOE and before then Alternators


Alternators had an Optimus Prime.
The question asked about both Optimus and Megatron.

Drawing a blank ATM. What was the Optimus in Thrilling 30? Orion Pax?
Legends class Optimus.
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Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Jelze Bunnycat » Tue Jan 22, 2019 5:14 pm

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Cobotron wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Ironhidensh wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
carytheone wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:As far as Siege is concerned though, it's all still to play for. Though I would be surprised if an Optimus or Megatron weren't part of the next line :lol:
I think having an Optimus and Megatron per line is a brand mantra. That would be a fun quiz or dive down the wiki, when was the last line that did not have both an Optimus Prime and Megatron?

AOE and before then Alternators


Alternators had an Optimus Prime.
The question asked about both Optimus and Megatron.

Drawing a blank ATM. What was the Optimus in Thrilling 30? Orion Pax?


Legends Class :) Also, Megatron was planned for Alternators as a Cadillac, but got shelved.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Cobotron » Tue Jan 22, 2019 5:15 pm

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Ah! Of course. Legends.

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby o.supreme » Tue Jan 22, 2019 5:15 pm

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AllNewSuperRobot wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:As far as Siege is concerned though, it's all still to play for. Though I would be surprised if an Optimus or Megatron weren't part of the next line :lol:



Indeed. My concern is Hasbro's "Evergreen" ethos is slowly pushing Transformers into irrelevance. Creatively, through the mindless push of G1, it is verging on He-Man territory. It is 2019, make Transformers something NEW.


Actually the MOTU collectors club puts out amazing product. I guess if you want to argue that it isn't *relevant* because it isn't easily accessible to all, that might be a fair point. But when you try to appeal to the masses in an effort to be new and exciting, sometimes you get something like the Netflix She-Ra which, quite frankly, I'd rather have NOTHING than have that...
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Nemesis Maximo » Tue Jan 22, 2019 6:26 pm

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o.supreme wrote:
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:As far as Siege is concerned though, it's all still to play for. Though I would be surprised if an Optimus or Megatron weren't part of the next line :lol:



Indeed. My concern is Hasbro's "Evergreen" ethos is slowly pushing Transformers into irrelevance. Creatively, through the mindless push of G1, it is verging on He-Man territory. It is 2019, make Transformers something NEW.


Actually the MOTU collectors club puts out amazing product. I guess if you want to argue that it isn't *relevant* because it isn't easily accessible to all, that might be a fair point. But when you try to appeal to the masses in an effort to be new and exciting, sometimes you get something like the Netflix She-Ra which, quite frankly, I'd rather have NOTHING than have that...

I...kinda like the Netflix She-Ra. I mean...it’s the Thindercats reboot from a few years ago.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Tue Jan 22, 2019 7:18 pm

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carytheone wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:As far as Siege is concerned though, it's all still to play for. Though I would be surprised if an Optimus or Megatron weren't part of the next line :lol:
I think having an Optimus and Megatron per line is a brand mantra. That would be a fun quiz or dive down the wiki, when was the last line that did not have both an Optimus Prime and Megatron?

Hmm, let's see here... Tracking backwards in time:

Power of the Primes (no Megatron)
Robots in Disguise 2015 (No Megatron, and Megatronus is a different character)
Age of Extinction (no Megatron, sense a pattern to the one missing yet?)

Before Thrilling 30, I dunno.

On another note, I too would look forward to some Unicron Trilogy characters and designs getting to shine. Adds layers and creativity to the looks.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Autobot N » Tue Jan 22, 2019 7:21 pm

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Tue Jan 22, 2019 7:29 pm

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Autobot N wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Age of Extinction (no Megatron, sense a pattern to the one missing yet?)
Does Galvatron not count?

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby ZeldaTheSwordsman » Tue Jan 22, 2019 7:58 pm

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D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
Autobot N wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Age of Extinction (no Megatron, sense a pattern to the one missing yet?)
Does Galvatron not count?

Not to me. New name, new dude.

Oh? Because I'm pretty sure author intent is "same dude but new name and now a low-grade lich" :P
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Tue Jan 22, 2019 8:01 pm

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ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
Autobot N wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Age of Extinction (no Megatron, sense a pattern to the one missing yet?)
Does Galvatron not count?

Not to me. New name, new dude.

Oh? Because I'm pretty sure author intent is "same dude but new name and now a low-grade lich" :P
Author intent doesn't matter in cases where fiction is not a factor (since we're talking strictly about toyline rosters).

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby ZeldaTheSwordsman » Tue Jan 22, 2019 8:11 pm

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Fair enough. Although for 4 years the only difference was deco :P

But still, was meant to represent the same guy in a new bod (a bullshit one that was thankfully history in the next movie).
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Tue Jan 22, 2019 8:31 pm

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Meanwhile, have a DeviantArt digibash of how Cybertron Defense Hot Shot from Hound might look like:

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Emerje » Tue Jan 22, 2019 9:02 pm

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Hot Shot looks pretty good like that, seems more fitting than the original design to be honest. If we really do get one I wonder if it could look that good?

Also we were promised Beast Wars coming to War For Cybertron so I'm also doubtful they'd keep the line actually on Cybertron. But Beast Machines was also a "war for Cybertron" so maybe that's where we're headed.

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Tue Jan 22, 2019 9:12 pm

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Emerje wrote:Also we were promised Beast Wars coming to War For Cybertron
Were we?
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Jelze Bunnycat » Tue Jan 22, 2019 9:22 pm

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Emerje wrote:Also we were promised Beast Wars coming to War For Cybertron
Were we?


I don't think explicitly so, but the design team was quoted as not being against Beast Wars, despite appearances of the contrary.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Emerje » Tue Jan 22, 2019 9:28 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:
Emerje wrote:Also we were promised Beast Wars coming to War For Cybertron
Were we?

Yes, they specifically said that they're going to prove that they're Beast Wars and Unicron Trilogy fan with War For Cybertron.



Start at 11:02 for about a minute. They're calling the trilogy an "extended universe" so don't expect it to just take place on Cybertron with G1 characters all the way through.

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